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Guru3D.com » Review » MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Ti SUPRIM X review 4

MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Ti SUPRIM X review 4

Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/29/2022 02:59 PM [ 93 comment(s) ]

It's been brewing for a while now, a 'Ti' model of the GeForce RTX 3090. The flagship series is further improved, with faster memory, more shaders, and an increased TGP sitting in the 450-500 Watt range. MSI is offering a GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X edition graphics card that has been over-engineered. Extremely fine-tuned significant power distribution and an incredibly quiet card for a device in this enthusiast class. That, and 24 GB of the fastest GDDR6X RAM money can buy. What benefits will a product with a beefed-up 10752 shader core provide?

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TroubledThoughts
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Posted on: 04/06/2022 04:05 AM
I'd imagine most GA102 chips are fabricated to be full -- they cut them down when the chip is defective. Typically when you spin a chip a large portion of the initial yield has problems so you just cut it all down -- eventually the fab/nvidia/whatever sorts those issues and yields go up. At some point you start producing a sizable number of non-defective GA102s so you don't need to cut them down anymore, you can just create a new SKU and sell it for more money.

Hey thanks, sorry for late reply. Been busy with work. Appreciate the answer!

Tom Sunday
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Posted on: 04/30/2022 08:00 PM
Everyone needs to make their own mind up if the extra performance is worth the asking price. Consumers can always vote with their wallet. Nobody is forced to buy these cards.


Indeed the 3090ti finds itself in an odd position. Roughly a 10% power increase over the first model and with apparently very minimal benefits? However if I had the money in these very trying ‘inflationary times’ a 3090ti would be ideal and long overdue for an upgrade, especially because I would be scaling up from a GTX 980 series. I talked a few days ago to a few buyers at Micro Center in Tustin, who were eyeing the various 3090ti’s on display and having their curves and extended backplates washing over their faces. Simply put 10% more performance for a 33% higher price clearly did not play a major decision-making role. Or whether or not it is worth it! For that matter one of the buyers already had a new 1600 Watt Platinum EVGA PSU sitting in his shopping cart and noted: “One can never be sure!” Absolutely no one was concerned about the much balked about energy use or consumption. The talk was all about the bevy of new tech-improvements as to much enhanced cooling, being the first PCIe Gen 5.0 compliant graphics card and rocking a single 16-pin power connector. A store salesman with a name plate called Marti noted that many customers here are buying the 3090ti just because of the single 16-pin power connector. Well all said and done, I am surely not in the deep pocket league, but came away with the plain fact that in the end it’s all about “the have and the have not’s!”

Crazy Joe
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Posted on: 05/17/2022 04:41 PM
Indeed the 3090ti finds itself in an odd position. Roughly a 10% power increase over the first model and with apparently very minimal benefits? However if I had the money in these very trying ‘inflationary times’ a 3090ti would be ideal and long overdue for an upgrade, especially because I would be scaling up from a GTX 980 series. I talked a few days ago to a few buyers at Micro Center in Tustin, who were eyeing the various 3090ti’s on display and having their curves and extended backplates washing over their faces. Simply put 10% more performance for a 33% higher price clearly did not play a major decision-making role. Or whether or not it is worth it! For that matter one of the buyers already had a new 1600 Watt Platinum EVGA PSU sitting in his shopping cart and noted: “One can never be sure!” Absolutely no one was concerned about the much balked about energy use or consumption. The talk was all about the bevy of new tech-improvements as to much enhanced cooling, being the first PCIe Gen 5.0 compliant graphics card and rocking a single 16-pin power connector. A store salesman with a name plate called Marti noted that many customers here are buying the 3090ti just because of the single 16-pin power connector. Well all said and done, I am surely not in the deep pocket league, but came away with the plain fact that in the end it’s all about “the have and the have not’s!”


Clearly the RTX 3090ti is the GPU equivalent of the Intel i9-12900KS: a handpicked top bin die pushed to the maximum and thus achieving extreme performance for an extreme power use. There will always be people who want to maximum performance without any regards with respect to the cost.

I upgraded from my GTX 980 to a RTX 3090 for three reasons: 1) 4GB of VRAM just wasn't cutting it anymore. 2) 24 GB of VRAM should make this card last me a few generations. 3) With the run on the RTX 3080 in late 2020/early 2021, I thought my chances of getting my hands on a RTX 3090 in a reasonable time would be a lot better and having not spent any money on holidays in 2020 and 2021 not looking any better in that regard I was willing to redirect the leftover money towards a new GPU.

And I was right, I managed to get an RTX 3090 in about 3 months time, which I think is not the experience that many RTX 3080 buyers had. Sure, I paid about 50% over MSRP, but I didn't see the prices coming down anytime soon and indeed they only went up after I placed my order (sometimes to ridiculous levels).

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