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MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Gaming Z review
Posted by: on: 01/15/2019 03:09 PM [
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We review the new MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z edition. This is a more premium line of gaming series products. MSI has already tweaked the cards towards an 1830 MHz Boost frequency for you, making this a very rather fast offer in the RTX lineup, that looks terrific as well.
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Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 03:52 PM
That now famous MSI tax. Great card however.
That now famous MSI tax. Great card however.
mrbull3tproof
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 04:12 PM
So besides juuuust slightly lower noise level it has same temps and performance as (probably) much cheaper Palit version.
So besides juuuust slightly lower noise level it has same temps and performance as (probably) much cheaper Palit version.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 04:17 PM
Yeah and lets not forget how good the reference cooler is on this card.
So besides juuuust slightly lower noise level it has same temps and performance as (probably) much cheaper Palit version.
Yeah and lets not forget how good the reference cooler is on this card.
tunejunky
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 05:24 PM
this looks to be a winner
but c'mon expecting RT performance from this is a bad joke. however this is a solid performer otherwise.
the cooler on MSI cards are worth the "tax" and if you're going to put it into a loop just get the "aero" where you're not paying for the twin frozr.
and if you can pay for the better clocks of the gaming x, cool.
this looks to be a winner
but c'mon expecting RT performance from this is a bad joke. however this is a solid performer otherwise.
the cooler on MSI cards are worth the "tax" and if you're going to put it into a loop just get the "aero" where you're not paying for the twin frozr.
and if you can pay for the better clocks of the gaming x, cool.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 05:34 PM
this looks to be a winner
but c'mon expecting RT performance from this is a bad joke. however this is a solid performer otherwise.
the cooler on MSI cards are worth the "tax" and if you're going to put it into a loop just get the "aero" where you're not paying for the twin frozr.
and if you can pay for the better clocks of the gaming x, cool.
This card though doesn't seem to need the additional cooling headroom however.
that's the FE you can get from Nvidia at MSRP right now.
this looks to be a winner
but c'mon expecting RT performance from this is a bad joke. however this is a solid performer otherwise.
the cooler on MSI cards are worth the "tax" and if you're going to put it into a loop just get the "aero" where you're not paying for the twin frozr.
and if you can pay for the better clocks of the gaming x, cool.
This card though doesn't seem to need the additional cooling headroom however.
that's the FE you can get from Nvidia at MSRP right now.
tunejunky
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 05:39 PM
yeah, still puzzled (and aib makers miffed) at Nvidia's direct sales.
i will say, for what it's worth - the FE of the RTX cards are the best made and "feeling" cards i've ever seen from Nvidia.
idk if that makes them worth buying, but if i had one i'd like the quality of manufacture.
yeah, still puzzled (and aib makers miffed) at Nvidia's direct sales.
i will say, for what it's worth - the FE of the RTX cards are the best made and "feeling" cards i've ever seen from Nvidia.
idk if that makes them worth buying, but if i had one i'd like the quality of manufacture.
BReal85
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Posted on: 01/15/2019 09:18 PM
ASUS Dual costs $395, Strix is $415. Let me have a guess.
ASUS Dual costs $395, Strix is $415. Let me have a guess.
FrostNixon
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 12:19 AM
As much as I want to support AMDA I don't feel like they can reach the performance of 2060 for this price with the next release. Not to mention it won't be anywhere in the next 6 months ..
As much as I want to support AMDA I don't feel like they can reach the performance of 2060 for this price with the next release. Not to mention it won't be anywhere in the next 6 months ..
metagamer
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 12:43 AM
Amazing, this thing pretty much matches a 1080 at a very competitive card.
Amazing, this thing pretty much matches a 1080 at a very competitive card.
DW75
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 01:13 AM
After tax in Canada, the RTX 2060 is 550-600 Canadian, depending on model. Good luck selling these at those rip off prices, haha. :p
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ...STMATCH&Description=+rtx+2060&N=-1&isNodeId=1
After tax in Canada, the RTX 2060 is 550-600 Canadian, depending on model. Good luck selling these at those rip off prices, haha. :p
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ...STMATCH&Description=+rtx+2060&N=-1&isNodeId=1
sykozis
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 03:43 AM
GTX2060 is going for $350 to $415 USD.... If prices hold, I'll probably be picking one up in the summer since NVidia has decided to support adaptive-sync.... Like FrostNixon, I don't see Navi touching the performance at a similar price.
GTX2060 is going for $350 to $415 USD.... If prices hold, I'll probably be picking one up in the summer since NVidia has decided to support adaptive-sync.... Like FrostNixon, I don't see Navi touching the performance at a similar price.
quantum hacker
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 04:25 AM
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
sykozis
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 04:53 AM
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
4K is far from being the "new standard"....lol When mid-range graphics cards can run at 4K with 60fps minimum at reasonable settings, it might become mainstream. As of now, 1080 dominates the mainstream and will continue to for at least the next few years.
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
4K is far from being the "new standard"....lol When mid-range graphics cards can run at 4K with 60fps minimum at reasonable settings, it might become mainstream. As of now, 1080 dominates the mainstream and will continue to for at least the next few years.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 04:58 AM
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
60Hz lol what a noob. 144Hz or nothing. Refresh rate > resolution any day. (Within reason I’m not playing sub 1920x1080)
NIce, but should be $250 max since it can barely do 4K/60fps just like the 1080. This performance IS low-end now.
You guys holding onto 1080-1440p (phone resolutions) are like the 800x600/1024x768 holdouts when 1080p became a thing. Better to just move on and accept that 4k is the new standard for the forseeable future and stop wasting time and money with anything less. If you haven't bought into 4k yet and are contemplating a new build... save your money till you can enter the 4k realm and save yourself from having to do yet another upgrade relatively soon when all the kiddies are playing 4k in their bedrooms and you're jealous that console players have a higher res than you.
60Hz lol what a noob. 144Hz or nothing. Refresh rate > resolution any day. (Within reason I’m not playing sub 1920x1080)
quantum hacker
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 05:00 AM
Fools.
First. Yes, 4k is standard despite you not owning it because you continuing to fund overpriced nvidia low end performance cards and panel manufacturers who continue to milk 2000's level tech. Don't you get that phone's have been doing 1440p for years and 4k monitors have been out for nearly a decade already!?! All new TVs now are f**king 4K.
Second. OF COURSE 60HZ IS LOW AND THIS CARD CAN NOT DO IT at 4K CONSISTENTLY. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
60Hz lol what a noob. 144Hz or nothing. Refresh rate > resolution any day. (Within reason I’m not playing sub 1920x1080)
Fools.
First. Yes, 4k is standard despite you not owning it because you continuing to fund overpriced nvidia low end performance cards and panel manufacturers who continue to milk 2000's level tech. Don't you get that phone's have been doing 1440p for years and 4k monitors have been out for nearly a decade already!?! All new TVs now are f**king 4K.
Second. OF COURSE 60HZ IS LOW AND THIS CARD CAN NOT DO IT at 4K CONSISTENTLY. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
sykozis
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 05:07 AM
Why would anyone waste money on 4K when you could just go 8K?
Why would anyone waste money on 4K when you could just go 8K?
Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 05:15 AM
I have two 4K panels at my house and both do full 4:4:4 chroma yet I still find myself going back to my QHD 144Hz G-sync display.
I have two 4K panels at my house and both do full 4:4:4 chroma yet I still find myself going back to my QHD 144Hz G-sync display.
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 05:36 AM
According to Digital Foundry, using High textures in BF5 gets you around 70 FPS with ray tracing. Seems the horse power is there actually, despite what people keep saying. But BF5 has issues with VRAM management with ray tracing on, and 6 GB gets tapped out.
According to Digital Foundry, using High textures in BF5 gets you around 70 FPS with ray tracing. Seems the horse power is there actually, despite what people keep saying. But BF5 has issues with VRAM management with ray tracing on, and 6 GB gets tapped out.
Robbo9999
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 10:59 AM
Yep, I saw this too (Ultra textures lowers the fps), this is added support to my thinking that the RTX 2060 with only 6GB VRAM isn't really a card to last much beyond yr 2020 - or in other words until NVidia release their next gen of cards on 7nm process shrink...I just see this card as a stop gap to last until that point.
According to Digital Foundry, using High textures in BF5 gets you around 70 FPS with ray tracing. Seems the horse power is there actually, despite what people keep saying. But BF5 has issues with VRAM management with ray tracing on, and 6 GB gets tapped out.
Yep, I saw this too (Ultra textures lowers the fps), this is added support to my thinking that the RTX 2060 with only 6GB VRAM isn't really a card to last much beyond yr 2020 - or in other words until NVidia release their next gen of cards on 7nm process shrink...I just see this card as a stop gap to last until that point.
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 01:22 PM
Question is: "What AMD has in between RX-590 and Radeon 7?"
"And what do you expect they'll do about this situation within next 6 months?"
It is not issue of capacity. It is issue of bandwidth. And issue of processing those larger textures by GPU.
In case total VRAM capacity would be issue, fps would drop drastically and stutter-fest would be noticeable even for lemur.
As much as I want to support AMDA I don't feel like they can reach the performance of 2060 for this price with the next release. Not to mention it won't be anywhere in the next 6 months ..
Question is: "What AMD has in between RX-590 and Radeon 7?"
"And what do you expect they'll do about this situation within next 6 months?"
According to Digital Foundry, using High textures in BF5 gets you around 70 FPS with ray tracing. Seems the horse power is there actually, despite what people keep saying. But BF5 has issues with VRAM management with ray tracing on, and 6 GB gets tapped out.
It is not issue of capacity. It is issue of bandwidth. And issue of processing those larger textures by GPU.
In case total VRAM capacity would be issue, fps would drop drastically and stutter-fest would be noticeable even for lemur.
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 02:16 PM
Fools.
First. Yes, 4k is standard despite you not owning it because you continuing to fund overpriced nvidia low end performance cards and panel manufacturers who continue to milk 2000's level tech. Don't you get that phone's have been doing 1440p for years and 4k monitors have been out for nearly a decade already!?! All new TVs now are f**king 4K.
Second. OF COURSE 60HZ IS LOW AND THIS CARD CAN NOT DO IT at 4K CONSISTENTLY. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people
4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet.
consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur
Fools.
First. Yes, 4k is standard despite you not owning it because you continuing to fund overpriced nvidia low end performance cards and panel manufacturers who continue to milk 2000's level tech. Don't you get that phone's have been doing 1440p for years and 4k monitors have been out for nearly a decade already!?! All new TVs now are f**king 4K.
Second. OF COURSE 60HZ IS LOW AND THIS CARD CAN NOT DO IT at 4K CONSISTENTLY. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people
4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet.
consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur
H1TMANza
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 04:45 PM
I know this is a painful request, but could you perhaps test BF V in DX11 in future . I just feel DX12 is a mess and shouldnt be used to judge any graphics cards performance.
I know this is a painful request, but could you perhaps test BF V in DX11 in future . I just feel DX12 is a mess and shouldnt be used to judge any graphics cards performance.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 06:35 PM
First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people
4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet.
consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur
Don't worry he wont last long here with that nerd rage he's got.
First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people
4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet.
consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur
Don't worry he wont last long here with that nerd rage he's got.
Exodite
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Posted on: 01/16/2019 10:09 PM
I'm honestly curious now, what's the price delta between Vega 56 and the RTX 2060 on your end locally?
Because here it's pretty much equal, though obviously with the RTX 2060 being so new it's anyone's guess how it'll develop.
The reviews I've read puts Vega 56 within 5% of the RTX 2060 so I figure either relative pricing would have to be very different on your end or you have extremely low hopes for any future GPU development.
Which I wouldn't blame anyone for mind you, it's not like the last 3 years have been a huge bundle of excitement on the GPU front.
As much as I want to support AMDA I don't feel like they can reach the performance of 2060 for this price with the next release.
Like FrostNixon, I don't see Navi touching the performance at a similar price.
I'm honestly curious now, what's the price delta between Vega 56 and the RTX 2060 on your end locally?
Because here it's pretty much equal, though obviously with the RTX 2060 being so new it's anyone's guess how it'll develop.
The reviews I've read puts Vega 56 within 5% of the RTX 2060 so I figure either relative pricing would have to be very different on your end or you have extremely low hopes for any future GPU development.
Which I wouldn't blame anyone for mind you, it's not like the last 3 years have been a huge bundle of excitement on the GPU front.
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Nice review and nice looking card. If you get you hands on Aorus 2060 extreme please do a review HH, thanks.
Gaming Z should be top tier but even so 380€ is really steep.