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MSI GeForce GTX 750 and 750 Ti Gaming review
Posted by: on: 02/18/2014 03:54 PM [
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We review the MSI GeForce GTX 750 and 750 Ti Gaming OC edition graphics cards. They both are bed on Nvidia's new Maxwell GPUs that offer low power comsumption and Full HD capable gaming. Being an MSI Gaming product you can expect a customized PCB and a simplified TwiNFrozer cooler that will keep the product nicely chilled down.
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-Tj-
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 04:12 PM
so 750Ti = ~560TI 448core, not bad, but nothing special..
And I just saw this in nvidia release notes
Not good for physx either, still has some birth issues
so 750Ti = ~560TI 448core, not bad, but nothing special..
And I just saw this in nvidia release notes
Not good for physx either, still has some birth issues
Denial
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 04:16 PM
Looks like Nvidia focused completely on power efficiency in Maxwell. It still doesn't support 11.1/11.2 fully. I think they really want this arch down in mobile. If they could cut the power of their Tegra K1 GPU in half it would actually be able to fit into a phone and be useful.
Overall pretty cool.
Looks like Nvidia focused completely on power efficiency in Maxwell. It still doesn't support 11.1/11.2 fully. I think they really want this arch down in mobile. If they could cut the power of their Tegra K1 GPU in half it would actually be able to fit into a phone and be useful.
Overall pretty cool.
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 04:23 PM
Well its a low end gpu imo its obvious its gonna be power efficient.
It would be ideal if I wanted Physx gpu - no extra pcie connectors, 750 non-ti is plenty for it. But the price ~130€ is meh.
btw, where did you see it doesnt support dx11.2?
I saw one early gpu-z screen and it showed dx11.2
Well its a low end gpu imo its obvious its gonna be power efficient.
It would be ideal if I wanted Physx gpu - no extra pcie connectors, 750 non-ti is plenty for it. But the price ~130€ is meh.
btw, where did you see it doesnt support dx11.2?
I saw one early gpu-z screen and it showed dx11.2
Denial
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 04:32 PM
Well its a low end gpu imo its obvious its gonna be power efficient.
It would be ideal if I wanted Physx gpu - no extra pcie connectors, 750 non-ti is plenty for it. But the price ~130€ is meh.
btw, where did you see it doesnt support dx11.2?
I saw one early gpu-z screen and it showed dx11.2
Huh? It uses half the power of similarly performing chips. Which means Nvidia doubled the performance/watt. It has nothing to do with it being low end.
As for DX11
From a graphics/gaming perspective there will not be any changes. Maxwell remains a Direct3D 11.0 compliant design, supporting the base 11.0 functionality along with many (but not all) of the features required for Direct3D 11.1 and 11.2. NVIDIA as a whole has not professed much of an interest in being 11.1/11.2 compliant – they weren’t in a rush on 10.1 either – so this didn’t come as a great surprise to us. Nevertheless it is unfortunate, as NVIDIA carries enough market share that their support (or lack thereof) for a feature is often the deciding factor whether it’s used. Developers can still use cap bits to access the individual features of D3D 11.1/11.2 that Maxwell does support, but we will not be seeing 11.1 or 11.2 becoming a baseline for PC gaming hardware this year.
Well its a low end gpu imo its obvious its gonna be power efficient.
It would be ideal if I wanted Physx gpu - no extra pcie connectors, 750 non-ti is plenty for it. But the price ~130€ is meh.
btw, where did you see it doesnt support dx11.2?
I saw one early gpu-z screen and it showed dx11.2
Huh? It uses half the power of similarly performing chips. Which means Nvidia doubled the performance/watt. It has nothing to do with it being low end.
As for DX11
From a graphics/gaming perspective there will not be any changes. Maxwell remains a Direct3D 11.0 compliant design, supporting the base 11.0 functionality along with many (but not all) of the features required for Direct3D 11.1 and 11.2. NVIDIA as a whole has not professed much of an interest in being 11.1/11.2 compliant – they weren’t in a rush on 10.1 either – so this didn’t come as a great surprise to us. Nevertheless it is unfortunate, as NVIDIA carries enough market share that their support (or lack thereof) for a feature is often the deciding factor whether it’s used. Developers can still use cap bits to access the individual features of D3D 11.1/11.2 that Maxwell does support, but we will not be seeing 11.1 or 11.2 becoming a baseline for PC gaming hardware this year.
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 04:51 PM
Well they have to lower TDP in order to make a efficient full Maxwell chip or its gonna be GF100 all over again.
I spotted dx11.2 here in this gpu-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/197620/aic-branded-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-pictured-clock-speeds-surface.html
Well they have to lower TDP in order to make a efficient full Maxwell chip or its gonna be GF100 all over again.
I spotted dx11.2 here in this gpu-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/197620/aic-branded-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-pictured-clock-speeds-surface.html
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 05:15 PM
I applaud the power efficiency, but on perf / price point, well i will better like they have pushed the enveloppe and offer more performance, more features too. when compare against the 650TI Boost ( GK106 / 650TI + turbo clock ).. and other cards in this price range ( of nvidia ).. im not sure peoples really care to have 25-30W-40W more but more framerates in return..
Again, extremely good work on power efficiency...
I applaud the power efficiency, but on perf / price point, well i will better like they have pushed the enveloppe and offer more performance, more features too. when compare against the 650TI Boost ( GK106 / 650TI + turbo clock ).. and other cards in this price range ( of nvidia ).. im not sure peoples really care to have 25-30W-40W more but more framerates in return..
Again, extremely good work on power efficiency...
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 06:15 PM
so 750Ti = ~560TI 448core, not bad, but nothing special..
And I just saw this in nvidia release notes
Not good for physx either, still has some birth issues
Just needs a patch to fix. If the price is right the reference single slot cards could be a great PhysX card.
so 750Ti = ~560TI 448core, not bad, but nothing special..
And I just saw this in nvidia release notes
Not good for physx either, still has some birth issues
Just needs a patch to fix. If the price is right the reference single slot cards could be a great PhysX card.
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 06:26 PM
whoops wrong thread.
whoops wrong thread.
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Posted on: 02/18/2014 06:47 PM
Well they have to lower TDP in order to make a efficient full Maxwell chip or its gonna be GF100 all over again.
I spotted dx11.2 here in this gpu-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/197620/aic-branded-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-pictured-clock-speeds-surface.html
I'm not criticizing that it has low power, it's a good thing.
And no it does not fully support DX11.2.
Well they have to lower TDP in order to make a efficient full Maxwell chip or its gonna be GF100 all over again.
I spotted dx11.2 here in this gpu-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/197620/aic-branded-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-pictured-clock-speeds-surface.html
I'm not criticizing that it has low power, it's a good thing.
And no it does not fully support DX11.2.
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Posted on: 02/28/2014 08:55 AM
Great review. I am considering buying one of these to replace a 5870 that is underpowered by a 430w PSU.
The 750 Ti would match or beat it 99% of the time and no more restarts of my Pc under heavy load. I want buy this it's look Amazon still has the best price on the market
Great review. I am considering buying one of these to replace a 5870 that is underpowered by a 430w PSU.
The 750 Ti would match or beat it 99% of the time and no more restarts of my Pc under heavy load. I want buy this it's look Amazon still has the best price on the market
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Posted on: 04/01/2014 08:45 PM
Default retail clockspeed is 1059, NOT 1085
I just got this card and the default clock speed is a scam - it's 1059, not 1085 (according to GPU-Z). Seems like the review version MSI sent out is different from the retail one, as in the retail version the 1085 clock speed is "set" through a totally useless "gaming app", which basically just overclocks it to 1085. So the maximum OC limit is NOT 1210, but 1184, just like the (similar) Asus version of the card - plus you get a DVI port less.
PS: If proof is required I'll find a place to upload a GPU-Z screenshot to.
Default retail clockspeed is 1059, NOT 1085
I just got this card and the default clock speed is a scam - it's 1059, not 1085 (according to GPU-Z). Seems like the review version MSI sent out is different from the retail one, as in the retail version the 1085 clock speed is "set" through a totally useless "gaming app", which basically just overclocks it to 1085. So the maximum OC limit is NOT 1210, but 1184, just like the (similar) Asus version of the card - plus you get a DVI port less.
PS: If proof is required I'll find a place to upload a GPU-Z screenshot to.
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Posted on: 04/01/2014 08:46 PM
So you gave the thread a bad rating for that?
So you gave the thread a bad rating for that?
Loophole35
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Posted on: 04/01/2014 11:37 PM
I just got this card and the default clock speed is a scam - it's 1059, not 1085 (according to GPU-Z). Seems like the review version MSI sent out is different from the retail one, as in the retail version the 1085 clock speed is "set" through a totally useless "gaming app", which basically just overclocks it to 1085. So the maximum OC limit is NOT 1210, but 1184, just like the (similar) Asus version of the card - plus you get a DVI port less.
PS: If proof is required I'll find a place to upload a GPU-Z screenshot to.
MSI does this with all their "Gaming" cards don't get your panties in a wad.
I just got this card and the default clock speed is a scam - it's 1059, not 1085 (according to GPU-Z). Seems like the review version MSI sent out is different from the retail one, as in the retail version the 1085 clock speed is "set" through a totally useless "gaming app", which basically just overclocks it to 1085. So the maximum OC limit is NOT 1210, but 1184, just like the (similar) Asus version of the card - plus you get a DVI port less.
PS: If proof is required I'll find a place to upload a GPU-Z screenshot to.
MSI does this with all their "Gaming" cards don't get your panties in a wad.
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Lol at those load temps!