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MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X review
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MSI released their GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X, a product with a more than capable cooler as well being factory tweaked. The SUPER edition card comes with faster GDDR6 memory but remains pretty much to be a GTX 1660 Ti in its bare essence.
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airbud7
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 03:04 PM
so they rebranded the 1660ti?.....the frame rates look almost identical?
so they rebranded the 1660ti?.....the frame rates look almost identical?
kings
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 03:35 PM
More performance/dollar is always welcome.
At $230, It’s one of the best cards to buy at the moment in the mid range segment.
Finally GTX 1070 performance at sub $250. Took long enough...
More performance/dollar is always welcome.
At $230, It’s one of the best cards to buy at the moment in the mid range segment.
Finally GTX 1070 performance at sub $250. Took long enough...
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 03:44 PM
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
so they rebranded the 1660ti?.....the frame rates look almost identical?
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
alanm
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 03:46 PM
NVIDIA has released the GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER today, this thread is the placeholder for our four reviews
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X (review)
Palit GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GamingPRO OC (review)
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER AMP (review)
Gigabyte GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING OC (review)
Thanks H. Good idea 1 thread to cover all.
NVIDIA has released the GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER today, this thread is the placeholder for our four reviews
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X (review)
Palit GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER GamingPRO OC (review)
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER AMP (review)
Gigabyte GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING OC (review)
Thanks H. Good idea 1 thread to cover all.
airbud7
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 04:15 PM
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
I know that^ but frame rates look almost identical?...that's all I care about.
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
I know that^ but frame rates look almost identical?...that's all I care about.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 04:19 PM
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
Don't forget, Ti has 12 Gbps GDDR6 and the SUPER 14 Gbps.
1660/1660 S = 1408 shader cores
1660Ti = 1536
Don't forget, Ti has 12 Gbps GDDR6 and the SUPER 14 Gbps.
jbscotchman
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 04:55 PM
It's a trade off with the Ti having more cores vs the Super's faster memory. But I think it's safe to say that nobody is gonna spend an extra $50 now for a Ti version, and the RX 590 is also out of the picture since the Super has a substantial lead over it. Throw in some overclocking and you really do have a beast value card. I wonder what retailers are gonna do with all the leftover Ti cards?
Edit: Hilbert replace your 5 with a 6 in your last post.
Don't forget, Ti has 12 Gbps GDDR5 and the SUPER 14 Gbps.
It's a trade off with the Ti having more cores vs the Super's faster memory. But I think it's safe to say that nobody is gonna spend an extra $50 now for a Ti version, and the RX 590 is also out of the picture since the Super has a substantial lead over it. Throw in some overclocking and you really do have a beast value card. I wonder what retailers are gonna do with all the leftover Ti cards?
Edit: Hilbert replace your 5 with a 6 in your last post.
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 05:29 PM
it certainly seems they'll need a 1660Ti super to justify them selling the 1660ti at a higher price than the non Ti that's for sure,
so they rebranded the 1660ti?.....the frame rates look almost identical?
it certainly seems they'll need a 1660Ti super to justify them selling the 1660ti at a higher price than the non Ti that's for sure,
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 05:29 PM
With only a few fps difference compared to the old 1660, this seems as pointless as rebrands, which is pretty funny since this actually has a real hardware difference in the form of the memory chips.
With only a few fps difference compared to the old 1660, this seems as pointless as rebrands, which is pretty funny since this actually has a real hardware difference in the form of the memory chips.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 05:33 PM
Luckily only you noticed that
Edit: Hilbert replace your 5 with a 6 in your last post.
Luckily only you noticed that
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 05:34 PM
Pretty much the same perf at a better price, can't complain there really.
With only a few fps difference compared to the old 1660, this seems as pointless as rebrands
Pretty much the same perf at a better price, can't complain there really.
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 07:28 PM
The problem with rebrands isn't that they are pointless, it's that they typically market the card as a generation newer. No one who bought the 1660 is going to upgrade to a 1660 super. For people looking to buy a card in the $230 price range - they just got a new option that's slightly faster. That's not a bad deal.
With only a few fps difference compared to the old 1660, this seems as pointless as rebrands, which is pretty funny since this actually has a real hardware difference in the form of the memory chips.
The problem with rebrands isn't that they are pointless, it's that they typically market the card as a generation newer. No one who bought the 1660 is going to upgrade to a 1660 super. For people looking to buy a card in the $230 price range - they just got a new option that's slightly faster. That's not a bad deal.
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 08:51 PM
So it's basicly a more quiet, cooler and same or better performing 1660ti for the price of a 1660.
I might as well just return my 1660 while i still can and just get this one.
So it's basicly a more quiet, cooler and same or better performing 1660ti for the price of a 1660.
I might as well just return my 1660 while i still can and just get this one.
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Posted on: 10/29/2019 10:57 PM
this card is the most over priced POS available right now i would never consider or recommend one of these with the current pricing of the RX 580 $220cad vs gtx 1660 super $340 cad its 50% more expensive even if u have to spend 80$ on a new PSU the RX 580 makes more sense to me
this card is the most over priced POS available right now i would never consider or recommend one of these with the current pricing of the RX 580 $220cad vs gtx 1660 super $340 cad its 50% more expensive even if u have to spend 80$ on a new PSU the RX 580 makes more sense to me
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 02:27 AM
What?
this card is the most over priced POS available right now i would never consider or recommend one of these with the current pricing of the RX 580 $220cad vs gtx 1660 super $340 cad its 50% more expensive even if u have to spend 80$ on a new PSU the RX 580 makes more sense to me
What?
Andy Watson
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 10:31 AM
Obviously the super version of the 2060 and 2070 replaced just one card, here the 1660 Super has in effect replaced two as the faster memory seems to make up for the less cores, especially in DX12 games.
If nvidia added same memory to 1660ti for the 1660Ti Super the difference would appear again in performance, but it would be even more expensive than current ti and getting towards 5700 AMD.
Talking of which, AMD need to get the 5500/5600 out now to compete in this sector
Obviously the super version of the 2060 and 2070 replaced just one card, here the 1660 Super has in effect replaced two as the faster memory seems to make up for the less cores, especially in DX12 games.
If nvidia added same memory to 1660ti for the 1660Ti Super the difference would appear again in performance, but it would be even more expensive than current ti and getting towards 5700 AMD.
Talking of which, AMD need to get the 5500/5600 out now to compete in this sector
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 12:46 PM
I just want a RTX 3080 Ti, while it does not appear I will not change my gtx 1080
I just want a RTX 3080 Ti, while it does not appear I will not change my gtx 1080
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 12:52 PM
It would make more sense to just drop 1660ti prices. Used 1070's are below 200$ at this point still faster than all these 1660's
It would make more sense to just drop 1660ti prices. Used 1070's are below 200$ at this point still faster than all these 1660's
Infernae
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 12:55 PM
What?
$340 Canadian
What?
$340 Canadian
Undying
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 01:04 PM
Prices here in EU. Still too much i think. Like i said take look at used market. You can get a 1080 for this money.
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Prices here in EU. Still too much i think. Like i said take look at used market. You can get a 1080 for this money.
upload my image on image website
kings
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 01:29 PM
Asus is no example, extremely inflated brand, on both AMD and Nvidia cards.
There are many good models of the GTX 1660 Super in Europe at 235€~245€.
Asus is no example, extremely inflated brand, on both AMD and Nvidia cards.
There are many good models of the GTX 1660 Super in Europe at 235€~245€.
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 02:12 PM
is it my imagination or is Nvidia spamming new cards only to keep the headlines and battle AMD ?
also because they don't want to replace their high-end car which is the only thing enthusiasts are interested in (interested in upgrading my 1080ti but scared of the price)
is it my imagination or is Nvidia spamming new cards only to keep the headlines and battle AMD ?
also because they don't want to replace their high-end car which is the only thing enthusiasts are interested in (interested in upgrading my 1080ti but scared of the price)
airbud7
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 02:32 PM
is it my imagination or is Nvidia spamming new cards only to keep the headlines and battle AMD ?
also because they don't want to replace their high-end car which is the only thing enthusiasts are interested in (interested in upgrading my 1080ti but scared of the price)
you don't need an upgrade^...IMO?
is it my imagination or is Nvidia spamming new cards only to keep the headlines and battle AMD ?
also because they don't want to replace their high-end car which is the only thing enthusiasts are interested in (interested in upgrading my 1080ti but scared of the price)
you don't need an upgrade^...IMO?
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Posted on: 10/30/2019 03:03 PM
Hilbert, it looks like you forgot to change a reference to the Quadro RTX 8000 on page 5. Either that or the text in that section is written in a very confusing way.
Hilbert, it looks like you forgot to change a reference to the Quadro RTX 8000 on page 5. Either that or the text in that section is written in a very confusing way.
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If Nvidia would have released this card at this price earlier in the year, and never even made the regular or Ti versions they would have had a huge hit on their hands. By releasing it at this time they're too late because the RX580 and RX590 have been dominating the $200-$220 range for a while now.