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MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio Review
Posted by: on: 10/16/2017 12:39 PM [
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We review the new semi-flagship graphics card from MSI, that beautiful GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio edition. This GeForce GTX 1080 Ti comes customized in an all new jacket and is silent beyond believe, thanks to a new triple fan solution. Wanna join me in this Trio?
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nevcairiel
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 01:33 PM
I don't suppose you have temperature and noise compairsons to other custom models somewhere? Especially with this model, which on a performance level should be quite similar to MSIs own Gaming X variant, one of the most interesting things would be how the cooler stacks up against MSIs Twinfrozr cooler, and other custom coolers. Comparison to reference designs only doesn't really allow a proper decision which custom card to get.
I don't suppose you have temperature and noise compairsons to other custom models somewhere? Especially with this model, which on a performance level should be quite similar to MSIs own Gaming X variant, one of the most interesting things would be how the cooler stacks up against MSIs Twinfrozr cooler, and other custom coolers. Comparison to reference designs only doesn't really allow a proper decision which custom card to get.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 01:39 PM
Lightnings are so high-end that they remain a limited production run. So one stock runs dry, that's it. You can still get them, but I think the Trio will replace the Lightning in that respect.
I think MSI is shooting itself in the foot with this card. Because I really wonder who is going to buy the Lightning Z when this card will come out.
Lightnings are so high-end that they remain a limited production run. So one stock runs dry, that's it. You can still get them, but I think the Trio will replace the Lightning in that respect.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 01:40 PM
For temps that's already listed in the article, look at he bottom of the temps page. For noise, sure let me look that up and I'll insert it for you.
I don't suppose you have temperature and noise compairsons to other custom models somewhere? Especially with this model, which on a performance level should be quite similar to MSIs own Gaming X variant, one of the most interesting things would be how the cooler stacks up against MSIs Twinfrozr cooler, and other custom coolers. Comparison to reference designs only doesn't really allow a proper decision which custom card to get.
For temps that's already listed in the article, look at he bottom of the temps page. For noise, sure let me look that up and I'll insert it for you.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 02:54 PM
Impressive cooler.
Impressive cooler.
Glottiz
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 03:38 PM
It is and it isn't. Dimensions are too big. This wouldn't even fit in my Fractal R5 case unless I remove HDD cages.
I mean if they make GPU 500cm long it would run even cooler, but at what point do we stop?
Impressive cooler.
It is and it isn't. Dimensions are too big. This wouldn't even fit in my Fractal R5 case unless I remove HDD cages.
I mean if they make GPU 500cm long it would run even cooler, but at what point do we stop?
Singleton99
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 04:15 PM
Nice card and great review H, but this massive cooler still doesn't seem to net any extra overclocking compared to other AIB cards, maybe it will help with throttling , sadly the days of overclocking now seems very limited with GPU boost 3.0 and all the limiters. Putting Pascal under water cooling seems to net the best overclocks .
Shame we cant even find out what the ASIC quality is
Nice card and great review H, but this massive cooler still doesn't seem to net any extra overclocking compared to other AIB cards, maybe it will help with throttling , sadly the days of overclocking now seems very limited with GPU boost 3.0 and all the limiters. Putting Pascal under water cooling seems to net the best overclocks .
Shame we cant even find out what the ASIC quality is
Ziggymac
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 04:15 PM
I still see a product that is very close to its limits in games @4K.
The only way it will stay relevant is if you start to drop down to 1440p as time goes on.
If you want a card that will offer headroom to last more than a couple of years @4K then you will need a card that can reach 90-120fps @4K today, which of course doesn't exist.
What I'm basically saying is that this card should only be seen as the ultimate 1440p GPU.
If you want a true 4K card then you're going to have to wait for Volta.
I still see a product that is very close to its limits in games @4K.
The only way it will stay relevant is if you start to drop down to 1440p as time goes on.
If you want a card that will offer headroom to last more than a couple of years @4K then you will need a card that can reach 90-120fps @4K today, which of course doesn't exist.
What I'm basically saying is that this card should only be seen as the ultimate 1440p GPU.
If you want a true 4K card then you're going to have to wait for Volta.
Robbo9999
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 04:31 PM
Looks like this could be the GTX 1080ti card to get! Sure, the fastest GTX 1080ti (MSI Lightening) is 2% faster than this one, but this one is super quiet as well as having that bracket that keeps the card secured really well in the case. This is the one to get, silence is golden!
Looks like this could be the GTX 1080ti card to get! Sure, the fastest GTX 1080ti (MSI Lightening) is 2% faster than this one, but this one is super quiet as well as having that bracket that keeps the card secured really well in the case. This is the one to get, silence is golden!
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 05:19 PM
Given the artificial OC threshold, achieving less noise / temps becomes less and less useful... I don't know how much sense this cooler makes.
I guess it depends on the price.
Given the artificial OC threshold, achieving less noise / temps becomes less and less useful... I don't know how much sense this cooler makes.
I guess it depends on the price.
mahanddeem
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 05:50 PM
I wish for the day Hilbert would put graphics score instead of total score in 3DMark Firestrike(we don't have the cpu so no point in total scores)
I wish for the day Hilbert would put graphics score instead of total score in 3DMark Firestrike(we don't have the cpu so no point in total scores)
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 05:56 PM
I think the same, although I think there is a Timespy Graphics Score listed, and often you can find screenshots of the Firestrike that let you see the Graphics Score, but the screenshot's not always there.
I wish for the day Hilbert would put graphics score instead of total score in 3DMark Firestrike(we don't have the cpu so no point in total scores)
I think the same, although I think there is a Timespy Graphics Score listed, and often you can find screenshots of the Firestrike that let you see the Graphics Score, but the screenshot's not always there.
mahanddeem
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Posted on: 10/16/2017 11:14 PM
Exactly, in several reviews (like this one) no screenshot of Firestrike, making results compare a difficult job.
Edit: One more thing, I suggest that Hilbert put the stock boost clock the card runs at "untweaked", this way we can expect what performance it's capable of.
I think the same, although I think there is a Timespy Graphics Score listed, and often you can find screenshots of the Firestrike that let you see the Graphics Score, but the screenshot's not always there.
Exactly, in several reviews (like this one) no screenshot of Firestrike, making results compare a difficult job.
Edit: One more thing, I suggest that Hilbert put the stock boost clock the card runs at "untweaked", this way we can expect what performance it's capable of.
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 12:15 AM
Impressive results, especially the thermals and noise. I admit that I had doubts about this card, but looks like that extra cooling is worth it.
Impressive results, especially the thermals and noise. I admit that I had doubts about this card, but looks like that extra cooling is worth it.
nevcairiel
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 12:46 AM
Thanks. The noise level does look quite impressive comparing it to the other custom cards.
For now it also costs over €100 more then an ordinary Gaming X, but hopefully that price comes down.
For temps that's already listed in the article, look at he bottom of the temps page. For noise, sure let me look that up and I'll insert it for you.
Thanks. The noise level does look quite impressive comparing it to the other custom cards.
For now it also costs over €100 more then an ordinary Gaming X, but hopefully that price comes down.
Utopia
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 06:09 AM
Dang I am in love with this card. If it really drops at $750 I will be picking it up day one.
Good job MSI & great review.
Dang I am in love with this card. If it really drops at $750 I will be picking it up day one.
Good job MSI & great review.
Ricepudding
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 11:19 AM
I just bought the MSI lightening, so little annoying they got this card out soon... though the lightening does win across the board at least
I just bought the MSI lightening, so little annoying they got this card out soon... though the lightening does win across the board at least
CrazY_Milojko
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 12:03 PM
Great looking card. Performance and cooling are also impressive.
Good review HH!
Great looking card. Performance and cooling are also impressive.
Good review HH!
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 05:32 PM
Exactly, in several reviews (like this one) no screenshot of Firestrike, making results compare a difficult job.
Edit: One more thing, I suggest that Hilbert put the stock boost clock the card runs at "untweaked", this way we can expect what performance it's capable of.
You can't expect any frequency as card to card can vary by +/-100 mhz
Exactly, in several reviews (like this one) no screenshot of Firestrike, making results compare a difficult job.
Edit: One more thing, I suggest that Hilbert put the stock boost clock the card runs at "untweaked", this way we can expect what performance it's capable of.
You can't expect any frequency as card to card can vary by +/-100 mhz
mahanddeem
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 11:11 PM
Can you please share your default boost frequency at 90s% load and under temp range in 60s?
I just bought the MSI lightening, so little annoying they got this card out soon... though the lightening does win across the board at least
Can you please share your default boost frequency at 90s% load and under temp range in 60s?
mahanddeem
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 11:13 PM
You can.
Some people 1080ti boost default to 2012 and some to 1912 under otherwise close conditions.
You can't expect any frequency as card to card can vary by +/-100 mhz
You can.
Some people 1080ti boost default to 2012 and some to 1912 under otherwise close conditions.
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Posted on: 10/17/2017 11:16 PM
You can.
Some people 1080ti boost default to 2012 and some to 1912 under otherwise close conditions.
That's what I just said..
No 2 cards even from the same version will have the same clock speed.
You said "put the stock boost clock so we know what to expect"
Which i responded with the above..
Then you would have people saying "HH cards boosts to 2012 out of box and mine only boosts to 1876, my card must be faulty"
You can.
Some people 1080ti boost default to 2012 and some to 1912 under otherwise close conditions.
That's what I just said..
No 2 cards even from the same version will have the same clock speed.
You said "put the stock boost clock so we know what to expect"
Which i responded with the above..
Then you would have people saying "HH cards boosts to 2012 out of box and mine only boosts to 1876, my card must be faulty"
Ricepudding
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Posted on: 10/18/2017 01:06 AM
Mine goes to 1961 by default with nothing touched. Not tried to push it yet since I've not had any real need to
Playing shadow of war the fans didn't even turn on and it stayed at 69 degrees... though with a nice fan speed of 60% it stays around the 50-55 degrees
Can you please share your default boost frequency at 90s% load and under temp range in 60s?
Mine goes to 1961 by default with nothing touched. Not tried to push it yet since I've not had any real need to
Playing shadow of war the fans didn't even turn on and it stayed at 69 degrees... though with a nice fan speed of 60% it stays around the 50-55 degrees
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Posted on: 12/30/2017 11:44 AM
Hello,
Currently hesitating between the Asus Strix OC and this card that i can get for roughly the same price, what would be your pick ? Thanks.
Hello,
Currently hesitating between the Asus Strix OC and this card that i can get for roughly the same price, what would be your pick ? Thanks.
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I think MSI is shooting itself in the foot with this card. Because I really wonder who is going to buy the Lightning Z when this card will come out.