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MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G review
Posted by: on: 06/01/2016 11:34 AM [
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Two weeks ago we reviewed the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition. But in reality the stuff that everybody is waiting to see are the board partner cards, all custom, tweaked and cooled better. let's check out the new 8 GB beast From MSI, the GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G with the all new TwiNFrozr VI cooler.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:09 PM
Dear god Hilbert your are hard at work thx for this review a very nice card from Msi and lovely cooler design.
At page 9 you have made a slight mistake highlighting a 1070 instead of the 1080 in the temp graph.
Ah thanks, fixed that.
Dear god Hilbert your are hard at work thx for this review a very nice card from Msi and lovely cooler design.
At page 9 you have made a slight mistake highlighting a 1070 instead of the 1080 in the temp graph.
Ah thanks, fixed that.
alanm
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:20 PM
Cooler with "balls of steel"
. Shame with 10 power phases and superior cooling doesnt OC much better than FE.
Cooler with "balls of steel"
. Shame with 10 power phases and superior cooling doesnt OC much better than FE.
mordim3r
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:20 PM
Do you know the price (estimated) of this card ?
Do you know the price (estimated) of this card ?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:23 PM
I spotted it this morning for € 750, but due to low volume availability retailers will easily inflate that to € 800 in most shops.
Do you know the price (estimated) of this card ?
I spotted it this morning for € 750, but due to low volume availability retailers will easily inflate that to € 800 in most shops.
fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:26 PM
Hmm the 1080 / recent drivers really seem to like OpenGL more than I thought.
Great review, thanks Hilbert!
Hmm the 1080 / recent drivers really seem to like OpenGL more than I thought.
Great review, thanks Hilbert!
-Tj-
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:36 PM
Dont say I told you so.. But nah all were like bla bla.
Even Chispy said it later when the OCers started to play with it.. 2ghz is as good as it gets, custom will be cooler thats about it.
unfortionally the OC isn't anything near the 2.2 mark I had hoped for, also the boost doesn't seem to be too stable. Let's hope amd forces nvidia prices to go down. This card is not worth 800€. I got 2 980s for 1100€ 2 years ago. You do get the same performance ( little less) than that in 1 card for 37.5% cheaper, but in 2 years you would expect a better price/performance ratio....
Dont say I told you so.. But nah all were like bla bla.
Even Chispy said it later when the OCers started to play with it.. 2ghz is as good as it gets, custom will be cooler thats about it.
kosh_neranek
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:52 PM
So now all we need is for AMDs RX480 to be as powerful as they claim and keep it's low price and have good availability. Otherwise the prices of these cards will stay ridiculous ..
So now all we need is for AMDs RX480 to be as powerful as they claim and keep it's low price and have good availability. Otherwise the prices of these cards will stay ridiculous ..
Ryu5uzaku
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 12:57 PM
It looks nice. kosh_neranek you are joking right? that must be a sarcastic comment.
It looks nice. kosh_neranek you are joking right?
that must be a sarcastic comment.
fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 01:04 PM
I guess Maxwell as the 'end' of the node was at it's best, we will see OC headroom increasing when current nodes improve in manufacturing I think.
But I seriously don't understand why they want to hit 2.2 with it besides the true overclockers, it's already a damn big jump from ~1.6 max with Maxwell's cards. Performance seems to be okay... so what about it?
Still, I am looking forward to what the people can get out of better power delivery for instance. The 1070 and 1080 will probably get revisions over time because they will stick with us until 2018 I guess, 2017 being big Pascal's year.
I guess Maxwell as the 'end' of the node was at it's best, we will see OC headroom increasing when current nodes improve in manufacturing I think.
But I seriously don't understand why they want to hit 2.2 with it besides the true overclockers, it's already a damn big jump from ~1.6 max with Maxwell's cards. Performance seems to be okay... so what about it?
Still, I am looking forward to what the people can get out of better power delivery for instance. The 1070 and 1080 will probably get revisions over time because they will stick with us until 2018 I guess, 2017 being big Pascal's year.
Ryu5uzaku
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 01:39 PM
I guess Maxwell as the 'end' of the node was at it's best, we will see OC headroom increasing when current nodes improve in manufacturing I think.
But I seriously don't understand why they want to hit 2.2 with it besides the true overclockers, it's already a damn big jump from ~1.6 max with Maxwell's cards. Performance seems to be okay... so what about it?
Still, I am looking forward to what the people can get out of better power delivery for instance. The 1070 and 1080 will probably get revisions over time because they will stick with us until 2018 I guess, 2017 being big Pascal's year.
But boohoo cannot oc to 2020202ghz it sucks balls.
I want to see what I can buy Q4 this year. Going to be spending quite a bit money.
I guess Maxwell as the 'end' of the node was at it's best, we will see OC headroom increasing when current nodes improve in manufacturing I think.
But I seriously don't understand why they want to hit 2.2 with it besides the true overclockers, it's already a damn big jump from ~1.6 max with Maxwell's cards. Performance seems to be okay... so what about it?
Still, I am looking forward to what the people can get out of better power delivery for instance. The 1070 and 1080 will probably get revisions over time because they will stick with us until 2018 I guess, 2017 being big Pascal's year.
But boohoo cannot oc to 2020202ghz it sucks balls.
I want to see what I can buy Q4 this year. Going to be spending quite a bit money.
Netherwind
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 01:46 PM
Hilbert, as always great job! Will be very interesting to read this now
Hilbert, as always great job! Will be very interesting to read this now
0blivious
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 01:53 PM
I like. For me, it's a toss up between this MSi card and the EVGA 1080 FTW model. I'm leaning towards the EVGA card.
Hilbert, will you be doing a review on the FTW? ...still no love from EVGA?
I like. For me, it's a toss up between this MSi card and the EVGA 1080 FTW model. I'm leaning towards the EVGA card.
Hilbert, will you be doing a review on the FTW? ...still no love from EVGA?
somemadcaaant
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 02:24 PM
That's just f'n yummy that is.
Always loved what MSI does with their cooler designs in red and black, can't be beaten.
That's just f'n yummy that is.
Always loved what MSI does with their cooler designs in red and black, can't be beaten.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 02:27 PM
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
webersp
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 02:28 PM
Do you know when this might hit the US for preorders? I've only seen it on European websites so far, and I really want to try to grab one of these in the first round of shipments.
Additionally, the information you have about the backplate/RGB LEDs seems inconsistent. MSIs website shows that the gaming X has a backplate as well as the RGBs, and in your paragraph titled "X or Z ?" you say that one of the few differences is that the Z will have an RGB system, and then you continue in the same paragraph to write about the RGB system that the X has. On the next page, you also show the photoshoot which reveals a backplate after it is implied previously that the X does not include one. Not trying to be a jerk, just wanted to point this out.
Great informative article, thanks!
I spotted it this morning for € 750, but due to low volume availability retailers will easily inflate that to € 800 in most shops.
Do you know when this might hit the US for preorders? I've only seen it on European websites so far, and I really want to try to grab one of these in the first round of shipments.
Additionally, the information you have about the backplate/RGB LEDs seems inconsistent. MSIs website shows that the gaming X has a backplate as well as the RGBs, and in your paragraph titled "X or Z ?" you say that one of the few differences is that the Z will have an RGB system, and then you continue in the same paragraph to write about the RGB system that the X has. On the next page, you also show the photoshoot which reveals a backplate after it is implied previously that the X does not include one. Not trying to be a jerk, just wanted to point this out.
Great informative article, thanks!
Netherwind
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 02:49 PM
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old? a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old?
a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
Darkest
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:00 PM
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old? a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
The 780ti is not several generations old.
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Incredibly unrealistic expectations, as has become the norm.
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old?
a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
The 780ti is not several generations old.
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Incredibly unrealistic expectations, as has become the norm.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:07 PM
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old? a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
Pascal seems more of a Maxwell small node refresh than a totally new architecture. The core efficiency doesn't appear to have improved from Maxwell to Pascal unlike the Kepler to Maxwell jump. However there is more energy efficiency and the smaller node is slowing for much higher frequencies.
The full size GK110 was top dog only two years ago and now a 104 based card is twice as fast. That is a bit ridiculous and people are complaining.
It's not a bad card but the overclocking is terrible which lets 980Ti OC pretty much get on par with it.
And how can you compare it to the 780Ti which is several generations old?
a more fair comparison would be to the 980 and there it does a great job.
Pascal seems more of a Maxwell small node refresh than a totally new architecture. The core efficiency doesn't appear to have improved from Maxwell to Pascal unlike the Kepler to Maxwell jump. However there is more energy efficiency and the smaller node is slowing for much higher frequencies.
The full size GK110 was top dog only two years ago and now a 104 based card is twice as fast. That is a bit ridiculous and people are complaining.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:15 PM
Additionally, the information you have about the backplate/RGB LEDs seems inconsistent. MSIs website shows that the gaming X has a backplate as well as the RGBs, and in your paragraph titled "X or Z ?" you say that one of the few differences is that the Z will have an RGB system, and then you continue in the same paragraph to write about the RGB system that the X has. On the next page, you also show the photoshoot which reveals a backplate after it is implied previously that the X does not include one. Not trying to be a jerk, just wanted to point this out.
Great informative article, thanks!
Ah yes, I'll clear that up a little better no worries.
Additionally, the information you have about the backplate/RGB LEDs seems inconsistent. MSIs website shows that the gaming X has a backplate as well as the RGBs, and in your paragraph titled "X or Z ?" you say that one of the few differences is that the Z will have an RGB system, and then you continue in the same paragraph to write about the RGB system that the X has. On the next page, you also show the photoshoot which reveals a backplate after it is implied previously that the X does not include one. Not trying to be a jerk, just wanted to point this out.
Great informative article, thanks!
Ah yes, I'll clear that up a little better no worries.
warlord
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:18 PM
AMD is gonna destroy NVidia this round. Because custom 1080gtx/1070gtx cannot OC to ~2.5Ghz as everybody was shouting everywhere. I can't wait for equal tier red's answer, pascal has failed for me.
AMD is gonna destroy NVidia this round. Because custom 1080gtx/1070gtx cannot OC to ~2.5Ghz as everybody was shouting everywhere. I can't wait for equal tier red's answer, pascal has failed for me.
Prince Valiant
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:21 PM
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
I think the issue is that it's barely faster than the ref. card and everyone was expecting a 2ghz OC out of the vendor cards. At least the slightly better performance costs less money
.
Still trying to see how you guys are saying this is underwhelming?!?!
Look at this card compared to the 780Ti! It's quantum leaps faster.
Great review as always boss.
I think the issue is that it's barely faster than the ref. card and everyone was expecting a 2ghz OC out of the vendor cards. At least the slightly better performance costs less money
.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:23 PM
No one was "shouting" 2.5Ghz it was 2.2Ghz. And until AMD releases something better they are loosing. Nvidia is grabbing more market share as I type and AMD showed off a mid-tier card that, "brings console quality graphics to PC." Their words not mine.
I hope Vega is a great card and faster than 1080 but if they drag their feet too long in this Nvidia will release big Pascal first and it will be anoth lack luster launch like Fiji.
The issue here is Nvidia clocked the Maxwell cards low from the start to get certain TDP figures and that left a lot of headroom to overclock. Pascal is more energy efficient so they clocked them higher reference.
AMD is gonna destroy NVidia this round. Because custom 1080gtx/1070gtx cannot OC to ~2.5Ghz as everybody was shouting everywhere. I can't wait for equal tier red's answer, pascal has failed for me.
No one was "shouting" 2.5Ghz it was 2.2Ghz. And until AMD releases something better they are loosing. Nvidia is grabbing more market share as I type and AMD showed off a mid-tier card that, "brings console quality graphics to PC." Their words not mine.
I hope Vega is a great card and faster than 1080 but if they drag their feet too long in this Nvidia will release big Pascal first and it will be anoth lack luster launch like Fiji.
I think the issue is that it's barely faster than the ref. card and everyone was expecting a 2ghz OC out of the vendor cards. At least the slightly better performance costs less money .
.The issue here is Nvidia clocked the Maxwell cards low from the start to get certain TDP figures and that left a lot of headroom to overclock. Pascal is more energy efficient so they clocked them higher reference.
-Tj-
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:31 PM
The full size GK110 was top dog only two years ago and now a 104 based card is twice as fast. That is a bit ridiculous and people are complaining.
That is true, but its just once you get use to such high perf. 1080 or 980ti OC, this 1080 doesn't look anything special, actually its not enough even OC'ed to max in certain scenarios and settings..
1080Ti and AMD Vega10 just might do it properly.
The full size GK110 was top dog only two years ago and now a 104 based card is twice as fast. That is a bit ridiculous and people are complaining.
That is true, but its just once you get use to such high perf. 1080 or 980ti OC, this 1080 doesn't look anything special, actually its not enough even OC'ed to max in certain scenarios and settings..
1080Ti and AMD Vega10 just might do it properly.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 06/01/2016 03:35 PM
That is true, but its just once you get use to such high perf. 1080 or 980ti OC, this 1080 doesn't look anything special, actually its not enough even OC'ed to max in certain scenarios and settings..
1080Ti and AMD Vega10 just might do it properly.
I can agree with that. But for now this is the top-tier card with the best performance out of the box. How log do you think before we see big Pascal (GP102/100)
That is true, but its just once you get use to such high perf. 1080 or 980ti OC, this 1080 doesn't look anything special, actually its not enough even OC'ed to max in certain scenarios and settings..
1080Ti and AMD Vega10 just might do it properly.
I can agree with that. But for now this is the top-tier card with the best performance out of the box. How log do you think before we see big Pascal (GP102/100)
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Dear god Hilbert your are hard at work thx for this review a very nice card from Msi and lovely cooler design.
At page 9 you have made a slight mistake highlighting a 1070 instead of the 1080 in the temp graph.