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MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X review
Posted by: on: 06/10/2016 03:00 PM [
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We review the MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X armed with 8GB GDDR5 graphics memory. Now we all like the reference founders edition cards, but be honest with me .. everybody really waiting to see the board partner cards, right ? These are factory tweaked and cooled better. Let's check out the new 8 GB beast from MSI, the GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G with the very cool TwinFrozr revision VI cooler.
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sverek
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 09:37 AM
Thank you very much for review!
Thank you very much for review!
sverek
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 10:13 AM
if this card is somewhere in the 450 - 500€range it has 20% - 25% less performance but the 1080 would be at least 60% more expensive.
that would be 950€ 1070 sli vs 800 € 1080 gaming x, 1070 sli looking alot more attractive..
And then its not far away from 980ti performance. If there good deal on 980ti, it still might be worth to consider. 6GB is not bad.
It will take a while for 1080 / 1070 prices to stabilize, while 980ti price still dropping.
if this card is somewhere in the 450 - 500€range it has 20% - 25% less performance but the 1080 would be at least 60% more expensive.
that would be 950€ 1070 sli vs 800 € 1080 gaming x, 1070 sli looking alot more attractive..
And then its not far away from 980ti performance. If there good deal on 980ti, it still might be worth to consider. 6GB is not bad.
It will take a while for 1080 / 1070 prices to stabilize, while 980ti price still dropping.
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 10:13 AM
Nice. Now we just need to compare the MSI 1070 vs MSI 980Ti benchmarks
Nice. Now we just need to compare the MSI 1070 vs MSI 980Ti benchmarks
AndreasGuido
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 10:23 AM
Nice review HH! Got time until BF1 comes out to decide!
Nice review HH! Got time until BF1 comes out to decide!
eclap
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 10:24 AM
Nice review HH! Im so tempted by 1070! Also small typo in "conclusion", second sentence
Got time until BF1 comes out to decide!
Do it!
Nice review, great card.
Nice review HH! Im so tempted by 1070! Also small typo in "conclusion", second sentence
Got time until BF1 comes out to decide!
Do it!
Nice review, great card.
Koniakki
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:09 AM
I saw a ZOTAC FE(Feckless Edition) GTX 1070 listed for 482Euros!
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1070#xf_top
I saw a ZOTAC FE(Feckless Edition) GTX 1070 listed for 482Euros!
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1070#xf_top
RmVA
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:21 AM
^^^ ewww
^^^ ewww
NiColaoS
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:27 AM
So... If all go according to plan, we should expect the Gigabyte, the slightly OCed ones will be around 450 euros. That sounds fine by me. Still with that kind of money we were getting the x80 version, but inflation or something, damn it.
I saw a ZOTAC FE(Feckless Edition) GTX 1070 listed for 482Euros!
So... If all go according to plan, we should expect the Gigabyte, the slightly OCed ones will be around 450 euros. That sounds fine by me. Still with that kind of money we were getting the x80 version, but inflation or something, damn it.
Anarion
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:41 AM
Looks like this is pretty much perfect GTX 1070. The cooler seems to do rather nice job.
Did this have any annoying coil whine issues?
Looks like this is pretty much perfect GTX 1070. The cooler seems to do rather nice job.
Did this have any annoying coil whine issues?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:46 AM
Looks like this is pretty much perfect GTX 1070. The cooler seems to do rather nice job.
Did this have any annoying coil whine issues?
None
Looks like this is pretty much perfect GTX 1070. The cooler seems to do rather nice job.
Did this have any annoying coil whine issues?
None
alanm
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:48 AM
Cant believe anyone would go for an FE edition over these AIB cards, which are not only cheaper but better in performance/cooling. MSI 1070 looks mighty tempting. Over time, I expect it to pull further ahead of the 980ti with new game releases. But Maxwell I think should hold up better than Kepler due to its closeness to Pascals uarch.
Great review. Typo in last paragraph on conclusion page: Oretty (?) much Nvidia decides what you max overclock is.
Cant believe anyone would go for an FE edition over these AIB cards, which are not only cheaper but better in performance/cooling. MSI 1070 looks mighty tempting. Over time, I expect it to pull further ahead of the 980ti with new game releases. But Maxwell I think should hold up better than Kepler due to its closeness to Pascals uarch.
Great review. Typo in last paragraph on conclusion page: Oretty (?) much Nvidia decides what you max overclock is.
Anarion
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:54 AM
Great! It looks like they really tackled that issue in these cards. The GTX 970 fiasco was pretty bad...
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Great! It looks like they really tackled that issue in these cards. The GTX 970 fiasco was pretty bad...
alanm
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:57 AM
Not sure if you can go by one card as a guarantee of no coil whine.
Great! It looks like they really tackled that issue in these cards. The GTX 970 fiasco was pretty bad...
Not sure if you can go by one card as a guarantee of no coil whine.
Anarion
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:00 PM
Well, yeah but so far all custom 1080's have been pretty much free from coil whine too. It doesn't look like 1070 designs are that much different.
Not sure if you can go by one card as a guarantee of no coil whine.
Well, yeah but so far all custom 1080's have been pretty much free from coil whine too. It doesn't look like 1070 designs are that much different.
RmVA
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:03 PM
What do you mean pull further ahead? Is it faster than the AIB 980Tis? Would love to see some direct comparisons!!!
Cant believe anyone would go for an FE edition over these AIB cards, which are not only cheaper but better in performance/cooling. MSI 1070 looks mighty tempting. Over time, I expect it to pull further ahead of the 980ti with new game releases.
What do you mean pull further ahead? Is it faster than the AIB 980Tis? Would love to see some direct comparisons!!!
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:23 PM
A lot of cards this generation have had coil whine issues. I wonder what the deal was.
Great! It looks like they really tackled that issue in these cards. The GTX 970 fiasco was pretty bad...
A lot of cards this generation have had coil whine issues. I wonder what the deal was.
CrazY_Milojko
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:35 PM
Great review HH and nice card!
Just wondering... Guess 1070 natively supports GDDR5X, but we all know NVidia is not going to let AIB's to release 1070 with GDDR5X anytime soon (if ever) because it'll have even more impact on 1080 sales. Guess OC'ed 1070 with GDDR5X would outperform stock 1080 for sure.
I'm mentioning 1070 GDDR5/GDDR5X "situation" because probably most of us here remember lots of older GPU's capable to run two types of VRAM, either on GDDR3 or GDDR5, they performed significantly faster on GDDR5. Backten I had PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 first with 512MB GDDR3 and later bought also PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 with 1GB GDDR5 (still have them both in my basement stash): GDDR5 version was way much faster than GDDR3 with same OC on GPU.
Will we ever found out how 1070 would perform on GDDR5X... probably never...
Great review HH and nice card!
Just wondering... Guess 1070 natively supports GDDR5X, but we all know NVidia is not going to let AIB's to release 1070 with GDDR5X anytime soon (if ever) because it'll have even more impact on 1080 sales. Guess OC'ed 1070 with GDDR5X would outperform stock 1080 for sure.
I'm mentioning 1070 GDDR5/GDDR5X "situation" because probably most of us here remember lots of older GPU's capable to run two types of VRAM, either on GDDR3 or GDDR5, they performed significantly faster on GDDR5. Backten I had PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 first with 512MB GDDR3 and later bought also PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 with 1GB GDDR5 (still have them both in my basement stash): GDDR5 version was way much faster than GDDR3 with same OC on GPU.
Will we ever found out how 1070 would perform on GDDR5X... probably never...
MarkyG
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:01 PM
Nice write up, some grammatical/typos here and there though, namely:
Words like "kinda" seem a little out of place in a professional review, also a typo on "years", namely under:
"It has plenty power and has the graphics memory to deal with games for eyars to come"
Either way, solid write up, nicely done.
Nice write up, some grammatical/typos here and there though, namely:
Words like "kinda" seem a little out of place in a professional review, also a typo on "years", namely under:
"It has plenty power and has the graphics memory to deal with games for eyars to come"
Either way, solid write up, nicely done.
RmVA
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:24 PM
3DMark 2013 results gathered from guru3d articles @ 1080P:
MSI 1070: 17001
MSI 980ti: 17325
MSI 1070 OC'd: 18384
MSI 980ti OC'd: 18858
Apples to apples comparison!
I bet there would be a bigger difference at 1440P and at 4K!
3DMark 2013 results gathered from guru3d articles @ 1080P:
MSI 1070: 17001
MSI 980ti: 17325
MSI 1070 OC'd: 18384
MSI 980ti OC'd: 18858
Apples to apples comparison!
I bet there would be a bigger difference at 1440P and at 4K!
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Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:49 PM
I went with the 970 over the 980 last time. The 1070 v 1080 seems to be in a similar spot but not quite. Though I'll probably go whole hog this time and get 1080 (to have the 1080Ti come out ~3 months later and blow it out of the water).
Wish there were more reviews/availability already. Never is at launch dates. I was thinking the G1. But leaning towards an AIO now, so the SeaHawk or EVGA Hybrid.
I went with the 970 over the 980 last time. The 1070 v 1080 seems to be in a similar spot but not quite. Though I'll probably go whole hog this time and get 1080 (to have the 1080Ti come out ~3 months later and blow it out of the water).
Wish there were more reviews/availability already. Never is at launch dates. I was thinking the G1. But leaning towards an AIO now, so the SeaHawk or EVGA Hybrid.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 06/10/2016 02:55 PM
And now on-line 4 real :---)
And now on-line 4 real :---)
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Posted on: 06/10/2016 03:35 PM
Thanks for the review, Hilbert! You made up my mind completely now
Tho i'm still unsure if i should stick with Arctic Cooling like i have for the past 10+ Years. I'm a sucker for silence you see. So i might end up buying a 1070 with a cheap plastic cooler like the MSI AERO and get an Arctic Accelero Xtreme 4.
Will see, i wont need a 1070 untill half way in August.
Thanks for the review, Hilbert! You made up my mind completely now
Tho i'm still unsure if i should stick with Arctic Cooling like i have for the past 10+ Years. I'm a sucker for silence you see. So i might end up buying a 1070 with a cheap plastic cooler like the MSI AERO and get an Arctic Accelero Xtreme 4.
Will see, i wont need a 1070 untill half way in August.
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Posted on: 06/10/2016 03:42 PM
yep def waiting out the summer to see the prices drop hopefully. its €520 atm now
yep def waiting out the summer to see the prices drop hopefully. its €520 atm now
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Posted on: 06/10/2016 03:56 PM
Great card. I have the 970 version and it´s amazing! Silent 90% of the time, while mantaining a great performance, thanks to the cooler.
I´m just a little sad to see how much Nvidia castrated the 1070. The 970 overclocked, offered the same performance of the 980, now the 1070 overclocked can´t touch the 1080... That´s really lame, even by Nvidia standards...
Great card. I have the 970 version and it´s amazing! Silent 90% of the time, while mantaining a great performance, thanks to the cooler.
I´m just a little sad to see how much Nvidia castrated the 1070. The 970 overclocked, offered the same performance of the 980, now the 1070 overclocked can´t touch the 1080... That´s really lame, even by Nvidia standards...
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Thanks for the review HH (and all the others you've done before, I'm a long time lurker), this is looking like it could be my next gpu!
Small error on 3rd Product showcase, bottom. "And yes, I do thing that is a terrific looking product".