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Metro Exodus: PC graphics performance benchmarks
Posted by: on: 02/13/2019 04:00 PM [
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In this article, we'll check out graphics card performance with Metro Exodus. The AAA game title has NVIDIA written all over it, join us for an in-depth performance overview.
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gerardfraser
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:32 PM
Thanks for the review.
Well I was looking forward to this game too bad RTX cards are not very useful in this game for the release.
I hope the game is going to be smooth on Freesync/Gsync at around 45FPS 4K Ultra setting but if not I am ok dropping settings down for 60 FPS.
Thanks for the review.
Well I was looking forward to this game too bad RTX cards are not very useful in this game for the release.
I hope the game is going to be smooth on Freesync/Gsync at around 45FPS 4K Ultra setting but if not I am ok dropping settings down for 60 FPS.
Mere
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:33 PM
Terrible performance...
And DeNuvo (VM(!) anti-consumer DRM) isn't helping at all either
And that's without rtxlol..
Terrible performance...
And DeNuvo (VM(!) anti-consumer DRM) isn't helping at all either
And that's without rtxlol..
BlackZero
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:33 PM
Not expecting much here.
Not expecting much here.
Netherwind
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:35 PM
Not even the 2080Ti can run the game at 60fps @ 4K? We live in strange times indeed.
Not even the 2080Ti can run the game at 60fps @ 4K? We live in strange times indeed.
slicer
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:35 PM
New Vega56 seems like a good deal now. comapred to RTX2070. They bring same perf in this title.
Not to mention 250 euro second hand Vega64's that are moving around.
New Vega56 seems like a good deal now. comapred to RTX2070. They bring same perf in this title.
Not to mention 250 euro second hand Vega64's that are moving around.
Embra
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:39 PM
It's Metro... pretty much expected.
It's Metro... pretty much expected.
Mere
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:44 PM
Redux versions had great performance.
Thanx to Epic and DEnuvo. I'll just waitfor Metro toget released on steam. When it does I bet it will be a Redux version lol
Redux versions had great performance.
Thanx to Epic and DEnuvo. I'll just waitfor Metro toget released on steam. When it does I bet it will be a Redux version lol
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:49 PM
In most 'normal scenes' perf will be a notch better alright. In the very harsh ones, FPS will cave in.
Small note I made in the conclusion (which seems relevant):
Please let me reiterate that we have used the internal benchmark of the game to measure performance, you can find the executable in the game directory to replicate results yourself and match them up with ours. Overall the benchmark seems to be a good notch tougher than your average game scene. That said, the reality is also that Metro Exodus will vary in FPS quite a lot depending on the scene you play in. As such the benchmark results represent the harsh and hard to render scenes much better than the overall framerate of the game (which is higher by a fair degree)
In most 'normal scenes' perf will be a notch better alright. In the very harsh ones, FPS will cave in.
Small note I made in the conclusion (which seems relevant):
Please let me reiterate that we have used the internal benchmark of the game to measure performance, you can find the executable in the game directory to replicate results yourself and match them up with ours. Overall the benchmark seems to be a good notch tougher than your average game scene. That said, the reality is also that Metro Exodus will vary in FPS quite a lot depending on the scene you play in. As such the benchmark results represent the harsh and hard to render scenes much better than the overall framerate of the game (which is higher by a fair degree)
anxious_f0x
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:55 PM
Any news about SLi support Hilbert?
Great article as always
Any news about SLi support Hilbert?
Great article as always
magiQx
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 04:56 PM
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
BlackZero
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:01 PM
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
Going by those images, it really only looks like more light sources (actual lights) and added reflections.
Haven't played the game yet, so will take it with a pinch of salt. However, if that's all it is in effect, I don't think current gen cards are going to make much use of this tech.
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
Going by those images, it really only looks like more light sources (actual lights) and added reflections.
Haven't played the game yet, so will take it with a pinch of salt. However, if that's all it is in effect, I don't think current gen cards are going to make much use of this tech.
schmidtbag
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:03 PM
Ooooh I like the slider for RTX on the screenshot. That's a nice touch.
I'd be interested in seeing 4K and 1440p results without (or at least, reduced) AA. I'm sure performance numbers won't look so abysmal there.
Ooooh I like the slider for RTX on the screenshot. That's a nice touch.
I'd be interested in seeing 4K and 1440p results without (or at least, reduced) AA. I'm sure performance numbers won't look so abysmal there.
Badelhas
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:06 PM
I was hoping to be able to play this at 1440p with my good old i5 2500k @4.8Ghz CPU and a Nvidia 1070 GPU but this article is making me think otherwise...
Am i wrong?
I was hoping to be able to play this at 1440p with my good old i5 2500k @4.8Ghz CPU and a Nvidia 1070 GPU but this article is making me think otherwise...
Am i wrong?
schmidtbag
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:08 PM
I was hoping to be able to play this at 1440p with my good old i5 2500k @4.8Ghz CPU and a Nvidia 1070 GPU but this article is making me think otherwise...
Am i wrong?
The game is heavily GPU bottlenecked. Your 1070 can already get playable framerates at 1440p with maxed out AA. I'm sure you'll be fine.
Of course, this depends on whether you find 30FPS playable. I would.
I was hoping to be able to play this at 1440p with my good old i5 2500k @4.8Ghz CPU and a Nvidia 1070 GPU but this article is making me think otherwise...
Am i wrong?
The game is heavily GPU bottlenecked. Your 1070 can already get playable framerates at 1440p with maxed out AA. I'm sure you'll be fine.
Of course, this depends on whether you find 30FPS playable. I would.
Keesberenburg
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:09 PM
How perform DX11 or Vulcan vs DX 12 on Pascal? Nice pictures, realistic i buy this game friday cause im a Metro fan.
How perform DX11 or Vulcan vs DX 12 on Pascal? Nice pictures, realistic i buy this game friday cause im a Metro fan.
JonasBeckman
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:10 PM
Going by those images, it really only looks like more light sources (actual lights) and added reflections.
Haven't played the game yet, so will take it with a pinch of salt. However, if that's all it is in effect, I don't think current gen cards are going to make much use of this tech.
They had a early video showcasing RTX's entire lineup of effects from the initial reveal from reflections used in the water to the shadows and then ambient occlusion.
Which then got changed into using it for global illumination instead and light bounces.
(It's pretty interesting as this was a new effect entirely for RTX.)
Which previous is often pre-baked or has other shortcuts since it's very expensive and now it can be used via D3D12 DXR through NVIDIA RTX and eventually also Vulkan via extensions.
As to if it's worth the performance hit well probably hard to justify, SLI support might have been one way to leverage it out a bit or something like PhysX where a secondary card could be dedicated to RTX maybe?
Going by those images, it really only looks like more light sources (actual lights) and added reflections.
Haven't played the game yet, so will take it with a pinch of salt. However, if that's all it is in effect, I don't think current gen cards are going to make much use of this tech.
They had a early video showcasing RTX's entire lineup of effects from the initial reveal from reflections used in the water to the shadows and then ambient occlusion.
Which then got changed into using it for global illumination instead and light bounces.
(It's pretty interesting as this was a new effect entirely for RTX.)
Which previous is often pre-baked or has other shortcuts since it's very expensive and now it can be used via D3D12 DXR through NVIDIA RTX and eventually also Vulkan via extensions.
As to if it's worth the performance hit well probably hard to justify, SLI support might have been one way to leverage it out a bit or something like PhysX where a secondary card could be dedicated to RTX maybe?
Badelhas
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:11 PM
The game is heavily GPU bottlenecked. Your 1070 can already get playable framerates at 1440p with maxed out AA. I'm sure you'll be fine.
Of course, this depends on whether you find 30FPS playable. I would.
Yeah, but if Hilbert got 34 Frames per Second on Ultra with a 1070 @1440p (with a much better and newer CPU), I will have even lower FPS with my 4 core CPU...Probably will nedd to lower graphic quality to achieve decent framerate.
The game is heavily GPU bottlenecked. Your 1070 can already get playable framerates at 1440p with maxed out AA. I'm sure you'll be fine.
Of course, this depends on whether you find 30FPS playable. I would.
Yeah, but if Hilbert got 34 Frames per Second on Ultra with a 1070 @1440p (with a much better and newer CPU), I will have even lower FPS with my 4 core CPU...Probably will nedd to lower graphic quality to achieve decent framerate.
metagamer
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:12 PM
the benchmark isn't representative of in game performance, it's a lot more taxing that in game performance.
You need RTX 2070 for 1080P 60? Is that a joke?
the benchmark isn't representative of in game performance, it's a lot more taxing that in game performance.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:14 PM
No, you need RTX 2070 to achieve average of 60fps on 1080p maxed. 99th percentile will be around 44~48fps.
You need RTX 2070 for 1080P 60? Is that a joke?
No, you need RTX 2070 to achieve average of 60fps on 1080p maxed. 99th percentile will be around 44~48fps.
metagamer
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:14 PM
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
Why not?
another game where i dont see anything remotely justify the acquisition of an RTX card. At least not for the current price.
it looks good otherwise but i expected more of a difference from the ON/OFF comparison.
Why not?
schmidtbag
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:18 PM
You'll probably lose a few FPS here and there but like I said, the game is GPU bottlenecked. Use DX12 to get the best mileage out of your CPU. Remember: DX12 and Vulkan are designed to reduce CPU overhead. If you look at the graphs comparing DX12 to DX11, you'll see there's no performance difference, suggesting the CPU he's using isn't working very hard, or at least not at full capacity, and that was comparing a much better GPU than what you have. Yours will obviously be working harder than a 9900K, but yours is clocked pretty high so I suspect you won't get any major loss in performance.
Anyway, yes, you will probably need to make some sacrifices, but I'm pretty sure you could average above 30FPS with AA off. Maybe just kill a few background processes, just in case.
Yeah, but if Hilbert got 34 Frames per Second on Ultra with a 1070 @1440p (with a much better and newer CPU), I will have even lower FPS with my 4 core CPU...Probably will nedd to lower graphic quality to achieve decent framerate.
You'll probably lose a few FPS here and there but like I said, the game is GPU bottlenecked. Use DX12 to get the best mileage out of your CPU. Remember: DX12 and Vulkan are designed to reduce CPU overhead. If you look at the graphs comparing DX12 to DX11, you'll see there's no performance difference, suggesting the CPU he's using isn't working very hard, or at least not at full capacity, and that was comparing a much better GPU than what you have. Yours will obviously be working harder than a 9900K, but yours is clocked pretty high so I suspect you won't get any major loss in performance.
Anyway, yes, you will probably need to make some sacrifices, but I'm pretty sure you could average above 30FPS with AA off. Maybe just kill a few background processes, just in case.
Silva
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:27 PM
So it's just DX11 emulated on DX12, with no support for more than 4 cores and poop performance for GPUs.
I really liked the first Metro games but this is disappointing.
Great review HH.
So it's just DX11 emulated on DX12, with no support for more than 4 cores and poop performance for GPUs.
I really liked the first Metro games but this is disappointing.
Great review HH.
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:32 PM
Runs exactly the same in Dx12 as it does in 11 then
Runs exactly the same in Dx12 as it does in 11 then
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Posted on: 02/13/2019 05:36 PM
Brand new 2080TI doesn't get 60fps@4k....brand new card...smh. I assume lazy coding. The game doesn't look nearly as good as the performance would suggest. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. Metro was never a game you could max out when released.
Talk about an uphill battle from the epic crap to performance to ray tracing which I find hard to notice and poor to perform. I appreciate the review. Very surprised by the results.
Brand new 2080TI doesn't get 60fps@4k....brand new card...smh. I assume lazy coding. The game doesn't look nearly as good as the performance would suggest. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. Metro was never a game you could max out when released.
Talk about an uphill battle from the epic crap to performance to ray tracing which I find hard to notice and poor to perform. I appreciate the review. Very surprised by the results.
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You need RTX 2070 for 1080P 60? Is that a joke?