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Retro review: Intel Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K - 2018 review
Posted by: on: 03/22/2018 09:07 AM [
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It was 2011 when Intel released Sandy Bridge, so we grab Core i7 2600K and revisit it in the year 2018, apply Windows 10 and compare that Core i7 2600K towards Ryzen 1800X and Core i7 8700K through our processor and gaming benchmark paces.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:13 PM
Thanks mate, but I've dropped ASUS a note, somebody is looking in the stock keeping trenches right now to see if they can find a P67 or Z68. With a bit of luck, we'll be able to do a proper OC update.
Wish it didn't require a import tax to send you anything. I would send you a Z68 board I have sitting at the house to use.
Thanks mate, but I've dropped ASUS a note, somebody is looking in the stock keeping trenches right now to see if they can find a P67 or Z68. With a bit of luck, we'll be able to do a proper OC update.
Dragondale13
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:15 PM
3930K here also!
Great article, but like the person above, it only matters for synthetic benchmarks.
With buggy games being released all the time (I'll blame devs) most people use Vsync, Gsync or Freesync with a frame cap, along with custom resolutions and Dsr.
Not to mention the tons of vram at our disposal compared to just a few generations ago.
Relatively easy to live with a cpu bottleneck in 2018 imo.
Even with the slowdown from Spectre/Meltdown patches, my present gaming experience is still excellent at 2160p.
3930K here also!
Great article, but like the person above, it only matters for synthetic benchmarks.
With buggy games being released all the time (I'll blame devs) most people use Vsync, Gsync or Freesync with a frame cap, along with custom resolutions and Dsr.
Not to mention the tons of vram at our disposal compared to just a few generations ago.
Relatively easy to live with a cpu bottleneck in 2018 imo.
Even with the slowdown from Spectre/Meltdown patches, my present gaming experience is still excellent at 2160p.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:18 PM
If you have list of settings you use in tests. Clean install is matter of moments and I have one unused SSD. So I can run test on 2500K through weekend with same settings. (Apparently 1600MHz memories.)
Thanks mate, but I've dropped ASUS a note, somebody is looking in the stock keeping trenches right now to see if they can find a P67 or Z68. With a bit of luck, we'll be able to do a proper OC update.
If you have list of settings you use in tests. Clean install is matter of moments and I have one unused SSD. So I can run test on 2500K through weekend with same settings. (Apparently 1600MHz memories.)
squalles
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:23 PM
no overclocked performance to comparison? because 2600k have low clock and higher oc capacity, i using one 2700k with 4.7ghz 1.35v and gtx 1080 in stock clock (50mhz by factory in core clock) and make 138fps avg in rise of tomb raider in fullhd maxed settings and 467 points in single performance in cpu-z
no overclocked performance to comparison? because 2600k have low clock and higher oc capacity, i using one 2700k with 4.7ghz 1.35v and gtx 1080 in stock clock (50mhz by factory in core clock) and make 138fps avg in rise of tomb raider in fullhd maxed settings and 467 points in single performance in cpu-z
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:46 PM
A fair test on a 'k' SKU chip with an extremely high over clocking potential, would have been OC to 4.6-4.7GHz with a decent spec 1866 memory from 2011. This test might as well have been done on a 2600.
A fair test on a 'k' SKU chip with an extremely high over clocking potential, would have been OC to 4.6-4.7GHz with a decent spec 1866 memory from 2011. This test might as well have been done on a 2600.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 03:49 PM
If you guys bothered to:
A) actually read the review
B) check up this thread
You would have found the answers you are complaining about.
A fair test on a 'k' SKU chip with an extremely high over clocking potential, would have been OC to 4.6-4.7GHz with a decent spec 1866 memory from 2011. This test might as well have been done on a 2600.
If you guys bothered to:
A) actually read the review
B) check up this thread
You would have found the answers you are complaining about.
Embra
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:00 PM
I thought this to be a test of comparing architecture changes over the years, not really OCing. He could have OCed all of the cpus for that matter.
I thought this to be a test of comparing architecture changes over the years, not really OCing. He could have OCed all of the cpus for that matter.
Silva
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:04 PM
Great review, as always.
I still rock my 2500k. Had it overclocked @4.0Ghz but didn't feel the need to so stock again for now.
My bottleneck is the RX560 for sure so wile I wait for a replacement, the old i5 still rocks everything I game on.
For gaming, it would be stupid to spend the money. Specially because of DDR4 price.
If you need the productivity, then it's another story.
Great review, as always.
I still rock my 2500k. Had it overclocked @4.0Ghz but didn't feel the need to so stock again for now.
My bottleneck is the RX560 for sure so wile I wait for a replacement, the old i5 still rocks everything I game on.
For gaming, it would be stupid to spend the money. Specially because of DDR4 price.
If you need the productivity, then it's another story.
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:07 PM
Does there really exist people that use 2600k at stock clocks? What's the point of review? Let's make strawpoll and ask 2600k owners at what clocks do they use this CPU. I think 90% of users would use it under OC conditions.
And where is more processor oriented games like BF1 etc. ?
MAX and LOW FPS? ..
Who cares?...
Don't like what the bar charts tell you, but you like the performance you get with your current hardware? Good--so stop reading the bar-chart, frames-per-second sections in cpu reviews. (Your insecurities are showing...) Sure, you may be right that most people still using older platforms/cpus do indeed OC--but you have forgotten that the same rule applies to people using the latest hardware as well, I guess. So...the approximate performance ratios hold, oc'ing included. I was happy with my FX-8320e for years, but overclocked or not, it is no match for my current R5 1600...(which overclocks to 3.8GHz with a simple multiplier change.)
Still, as HH demonstrated, it's not just the cpu--the entire platform changes when upgrading. The good part of that is the performance increases--the bad part, of course, is the expense. Depending on which cpu you opt for, DDR4 ram can cost as much as the cpu, if not more. But even with older hardware, if you game at decent resolutions like 2560x1440 and up, you are limited to the performance of the GPU and it almost doesn't matter which cpu you use these days--or GPU, for that matter--as performance differences among GPUs at QHD and up are small indeed.
But is ~$600 (for new motherboard, ram, and cpu) really too much to spend on a new computer? Replace just those three components--keep the rest--and a "new computer" is what you get.
Does there really exist people that use 2600k at stock clocks? What's the point of review? Let's make strawpoll and ask 2600k owners at what clocks do they use this CPU. I think 90% of users would use it under OC conditions.
And where is more processor oriented games like BF1 etc. ?
MAX and LOW FPS? ..
Who cares?...
Don't like what the bar charts tell you, but you like the performance you get with your current hardware? Good--so stop reading the bar-chart, frames-per-second sections in cpu reviews. (Your insecurities are showing...) Sure, you may be right that most people still using older platforms/cpus do indeed OC--but you have forgotten that the same rule applies to people using the latest hardware as well, I guess. So...the approximate performance ratios hold, oc'ing included. I was happy with my FX-8320e for years, but overclocked or not, it is no match for my current R5 1600...(which overclocks to 3.8GHz with a simple multiplier change.)Still, as HH demonstrated, it's not just the cpu--the entire platform changes when upgrading. The good part of that is the performance increases--the bad part, of course, is the expense. Depending on which cpu you opt for, DDR4 ram can cost as much as the cpu, if not more. But even with older hardware, if you game at decent resolutions like 2560x1440 and up, you are limited to the performance of the GPU and it almost doesn't matter which cpu you use these days--or GPU, for that matter--as performance differences among GPUs at QHD and up are small indeed.
But is ~$600 (for new motherboard, ram, and cpu) really too much to spend on a new computer? Replace just those three components--keep the rest--and a "new computer" is what you get.
Muaddib
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:17 PM
wow i cannot believe you guys didnt include the Legendary 2700K mine's still operational at 4.8 Ghz and its easily faster than my buddy's 4770K.
Yes my newly AMD 2600X order will be way faster but only in multythreading and multitasking operations.
wow i cannot believe you guys didnt include the Legendary 2700K mine's still operational at 4.8 Ghz and its easily faster than my buddy's 4770K.
Yes my newly AMD 2600X order will be way faster but only in multythreading and multitasking operations.
Dragondale13
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:25 PM
Who cares?... Don't like what the bar charts tell you, but you like the performance you get with your current hardware? Good--so stop reading the bar-chart, frames-per-second sections in cpu reviews. (Your insecurities are showing...) Sure, you may be right that most people still using older platforms/cpus do indeed OC--but you have forgotten that the same rule applies to people using the latest hardware as well, I guess. So...the approximate performance ratios hold, oc'ing included. I was happy with my FX-8320e for years, but overclocked or not, it is no match for my current R5 1600...(which overclocks to 3.8GHz with a simple multiplier change.)
Still, as HH demonstrated, it's not just the cpu--the entire platform changes when upgrading. The good part of that is the performance increases--the bad part, of course, is the expense. Depending on which cpu you opt for, DDR4 ram can cost as much as the cpu, if not more. But even with older hardware, if you game at decent resolutions like 2560x1440 and up, you are limited to the performance of the GPU and it almost doesn't matter which cpu you use these days--or GPU, for that matter--as performance differences among GPUs at QHD and up are small indeed.
But is ~$600 (for new motherboard, ram, and cpu) really too much to spend on a new computer? Replace just those three components--keep the rest--and a "new computer" is what you get.
Especially like that last part.
If my current ddr3 2133 cl9 memory couldn't do 2400 cl10, yeah I'd be singing a different song.
Who cares?...
Don't like what the bar charts tell you, but you like the performance you get with your current hardware? Good--so stop reading the bar-chart, frames-per-second sections in cpu reviews. (Your insecurities are showing...) Sure, you may be right that most people still using older platforms/cpus do indeed OC--but you have forgotten that the same rule applies to people using the latest hardware as well, I guess. So...the approximate performance ratios hold, oc'ing included. I was happy with my FX-8320e for years, but overclocked or not, it is no match for my current R5 1600...(which overclocks to 3.8GHz with a simple multiplier change.)Still, as HH demonstrated, it's not just the cpu--the entire platform changes when upgrading. The good part of that is the performance increases--the bad part, of course, is the expense. Depending on which cpu you opt for, DDR4 ram can cost as much as the cpu, if not more. But even with older hardware, if you game at decent resolutions like 2560x1440 and up, you are limited to the performance of the GPU and it almost doesn't matter which cpu you use these days--or GPU, for that matter--as performance differences among GPUs at QHD and up are small indeed.
But is ~$600 (for new motherboard, ram, and cpu) really too much to spend on a new computer? Replace just those three components--keep the rest--and a "new computer" is what you get.
Especially like that last part.
If my current ddr3 2133 cl9 memory couldn't do 2400 cl10, yeah I'd be singing a different song.
Angantyr
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:32 PM
Wouldn't it be more likely they had some Z77 boards laying around? If I remember right, the difference between Z68 & Z77 was USB 3.0 integration with the Z77 boards.
Thanks mate, but I've dropped ASUS a note, somebody is looking in the stock keeping trenches right now to see if they can find a P67 or Z68. With a bit of luck, we'll be able to do a proper OC update.
Wouldn't it be more likely they had some Z77 boards laying around? If I remember right, the difference between Z68 & Z77 was USB 3.0 integration with the Z77 boards.
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:45 PM
Nice review. It´s always nice to read stuff like this to better understand how performance between several generations of CPUs have evolved.
For me is no surprise to see the 2600K performing so well because an year ago i was still rocking an overclocked Q9550 and if that thing still performed like a champ, then a 2600K is going to perform even better. I was thinking about selling my Q9550 system but now i´m thinking about using again for something, don´w know what.
Anyway great review and kudos for every 2600K owner still making use of this little beast!
Nice review. It´s always nice to read stuff like this to better understand how performance between several generations of CPUs have evolved.
For me is no surprise to see the 2600K performing so well because an year ago i was still rocking an overclocked Q9550 and if that thing still performed like a champ, then a 2600K is going to perform even better. I was thinking about selling my Q9550 system but now i´m thinking about using again for something, don´w know what.
Anyway great review and kudos for every 2600K owner still making use of this little beast!
StewieTech
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 04:54 PM
i5 4670k@4.4 here. Cant find a reason to upgrade just yet. Intel had no real competetion for far too long so great leaps of technology were not done. So im still fine.
i5 4670k@4.4 here. Cant find a reason to upgrade just yet. Intel had no real competetion for far too long so great leaps of technology were not done. So im still fine.
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:10 PM
Interesting article & good to hear that you will be trying to include OC results in there when you update the board. I feel that the OC results are the only really relevant results though, because I can't believe there are any gamers here with a 2600K that they're not running at a maximum overclock, especially nowadays that it needs all the help in performance it can get. Even max overclocked 2600K vs stock more modern CPUs are a valid comparison because people are less likely to OC newer CPUs as they have enough power, so would be great to see this inclusion in this article - it's the only way to make it relevant for how people use their 2600K's (in my eyes).
I had expected the 2600K to game at higher fps than what we saw in this article, I wonder if a healthy max overclock can go a long way to make up the difference. The RAM also looked like a slow variety. My Sandybridge laptop has got 1866Mhz DDR3 RAM, faster RAM should help the gaming performance, and might be interesting to see faster RAM in this article too.
Interesting article & good to hear that you will be trying to include OC results in there when you update the board. I feel that the OC results are the only really relevant results though, because I can't believe there are any gamers here with a 2600K that they're not running at a maximum overclock, especially nowadays that it needs all the help in performance it can get. Even max overclocked 2600K vs stock more modern CPUs are a valid comparison because people are less likely to OC newer CPUs as they have enough power, so would be great to see this inclusion in this article - it's the only way to make it relevant for how people use their 2600K's (in my eyes).
I had expected the 2600K to game at higher fps than what we saw in this article, I wonder if a healthy max overclock can go a long way to make up the difference. The RAM also looked like a slow variety. My Sandybridge laptop has got 1866Mhz DDR3 RAM, faster RAM should help the gaming performance, and might be interesting to see faster RAM in this article too.
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:18 PM
Interesting article & good to hear that you will be trying to include OC results in there when you update the board. I feel that the OC results are the only really relevant results though, because I can't believe there are any gamers here with a 2600K that they're not running at a maximum overclock, especially nowadays that it needs all the help in performance it can get. Even max overclocked 2600K vs stock more modern CPUs are a valid comparison because people are less likely to OC newer CPUs as they have enough power, so would be great to see this inclusion in this article - it's the only way to make it relevant for how people use their 2600K's (in my eyes).
I had expected the 2600K to game at higher fps than what we saw in this article, I wonder if a healthy max overclock can go a long way to make up the difference. The RAM also looked like a slow variety. My Sandybridge laptop has got 1866Mhz DDR3 RAM, faster RAM should help the gaming performance, and might be interesting to see faster RAM in this article too.
You would be very surprised. My girlfriends brother bought a prebuilt with a 6850k, not only was it running on a tiny 120mm AIO closed loop, the fan controller wasn't even plugged in and there were no settings changed in the bios to overclock it at all. XMP wasn't even enabled.
Aside from gearing towards overclocks, Intel marketed these CPU's are gamer cpu's even if you didn't overclock.
Interesting article & good to hear that you will be trying to include OC results in there when you update the board. I feel that the OC results are the only really relevant results though, because I can't believe there are any gamers here with a 2600K that they're not running at a maximum overclock, especially nowadays that it needs all the help in performance it can get. Even max overclocked 2600K vs stock more modern CPUs are a valid comparison because people are less likely to OC newer CPUs as they have enough power, so would be great to see this inclusion in this article - it's the only way to make it relevant for how people use their 2600K's (in my eyes).
I had expected the 2600K to game at higher fps than what we saw in this article, I wonder if a healthy max overclock can go a long way to make up the difference. The RAM also looked like a slow variety. My Sandybridge laptop has got 1866Mhz DDR3 RAM, faster RAM should help the gaming performance, and might be interesting to see faster RAM in this article too.
You would be very surprised. My girlfriends brother bought a prebuilt with a 6850k, not only was it running on a tiny 120mm AIO closed loop, the fan controller wasn't even plugged in and there were no settings changed in the bios to overclock it at all. XMP wasn't even enabled.
Aside from gearing towards overclocks, Intel marketed these CPU's are gamer cpu's even if you didn't overclock.
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:24 PM
You would be very surprised. My girlfriends brother bought a prebuilt with a 6850k, not only was it running on a tiny 120mm AIO closed loop, the fan controller wasn't even plugged in and there were no settings changed in the bios to overclock it at all. XMP wasn't even enabled.
Aside from gearing towards overclocks, Intel marketed these CPU's are gamer cpu's even if you didn't overclock.
Yeah, but most people on here with 2600K's are definitely overclocking - this is an enthusiast site, so there are no stock 2600K's here, well maybe only a couple!
You would be very surprised. My girlfriends brother bought a prebuilt with a 6850k, not only was it running on a tiny 120mm AIO closed loop, the fan controller wasn't even plugged in and there were no settings changed in the bios to overclock it at all. XMP wasn't even enabled.
Aside from gearing towards overclocks, Intel marketed these CPU's are gamer cpu's even if you didn't overclock.
Yeah, but most people on here with 2600K's are definitely overclocking - this is an enthusiast site, so there are no stock 2600K's here, well maybe only a couple!
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:26 PM
lol True but we aren't the majority. If we were, then the guru3d clan in games would be huge!!!!!!
Which, we need to get started again in some games....
Yeah, but most people on here with 2600K's are definitely overclocking - this is an enthusiast site, so there are no stock 2600K's here, well maybe only a couple!
lol True but we aren't the majority. If we were, then the guru3d clan in games would be huge!!!!!!
Which, we need to get started again in some games....
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:27 PM
2500K @4.5 / 2x4 1600Mhz DDR3 / Nvidia GTX 770 4GB It was enough for 1080p games in most cases. if you are game modding fan like a TES5 - Fallout4 - ETS 2 - DCS World - Prepar3D etc...sometimes you are dealing with graphics softwares and doing your own mods this system not enough trust me
2500K @4.5 / 2x4 1600Mhz DDR3 / Nvidia GTX 770 4GB It was enough for 1080p games in most cases. if you are game modding fan like a TES5 - Fallout4 - ETS 2 - DCS World - Prepar3D etc...sometimes you are dealing with graphics softwares and doing your own mods this system not enough trust me
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:37 PM
I need that board Loop ...member
Wish it didn't require a import tax to send you anything. I would send you a Z68 board I have sitting at the house to use.
I need that board Loop ...member
sykozis gave me his 2600k 3 years ago its still in this
ASRock H61ICAFE ....lol ...he said it would do 4.4 all day ...
ASRock H61ICAFE ....lol ...he said it would do 4.4 all day ...
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:53 PM
it sucks that the board don't clock because it would have been more interesting
but pretty cool that you did test it old school
I sorta miss the multi binning with sb the lowest I found was a 51 best was a 56 what a chip even with just cool air it would bench all weekend at max multi
still have my p67 ud7 its got a busted ram slot but it worked before I got rid of the platform
even today it would be fine day to day for me
it sucks that the board don't clock because it would have been more interesting
but pretty cool that you did test it old school
I sorta miss the multi binning with sb the lowest I found was a 51 best was a 56 what a chip even with just cool air it would bench all weekend at max multi
still have my p67 ud7 its got a busted ram slot but it worked before I got rid of the platform
even today it would be fine day to day for me
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 05:55 PM
I need that board Loop ...member
I'll send it your way. PM me your info. Do you need some 1866Mhz 8GB x2 ram to go with it?
I need that board Loop ...member
sykozis gave me his 2600k 3 years ago its still in this
ASRock H61ICAFE ....lol ...he said it would do 4.4 all day ...
ASRock H61ICAFE ....lol ...he said it would do 4.4 all day ...
I'll send it your way. PM me your info. Do you need some 1866Mhz 8GB x2 ram to go with it?
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 06:24 PM
Thanks boss! Every time I've seen a performance comparison or a re-test of the 2600k in the last 4-5 years either on YT or tech sites, it's always been a pleasure to read and always end up thinking, damn what a cpu still!
Can't explain why exactly but that CPU holds a special place in my mind. Could be because I had the most fun OCing it, up to that point in time. :p
I think I spent most of the time I had it OCing/tweaking and benchmarking, up to the point that even the 3770K had been released by then. lol
Thanks boss! Every time I've seen a performance comparison or a re-test of the 2600k in the last 4-5 years either on YT or tech sites, it's always been a pleasure to read and always end up thinking, damn what a cpu still!
Can't explain why exactly but that CPU holds a special place in my mind. Could be because I had the most fun OCing it, up to that point in time. :p
I think I spent most of the time I had it OCing/tweaking and benchmarking, up to the point that even the 3770K had been released by then. lol
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Posted on: 03/22/2018 06:34 PM
Nice review Hilbert ! if someone wanted to give me the 2600k with his motherboard, I would be really happy ... I really need it ... thanks guys, and excuse me for my audacity
Nice review Hilbert ! if someone wanted to give me the 2600k with his motherboard, I would be really happy ... I really need it ... thanks guys, and excuse me for my audacity
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My last CPU befroe my current one (i7-950) did me good services for 6 years too, and is still running in my HTPC, I just upgrade because I wanted to have all the other goodies like SATA3.0, PCIe 3.0, etc.
I too think that HH did the gamers a good service, showing also those who do not have SB or IB processors that they were really good. Back in the day, when Intel made CPUs that lasted you for years...