Intel Core i9 10980XE processor review

Posted on: 11/26/2019 12:27 AM

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@MegaFalloutFan

i9-10980X is not bad CPU but for less you can have 3950X or 3900X which match this CPU in some games

In mixed workloads I still would take ThreadRipper than i9-10980X, still I'm not happy with motherboard offerings for TR or X299(X299 Sage 10g is board which I would choose for myself)

Depending what are yours plans for build but I would go with TR just due more PCI_E lanes and in future you can upgrade to 64 core/128 thread CPU if you want to

ThreadRipper 3970x or 3960x in gaming are not bad or not lot slower than Intel when you are gaming in 1440p or in 4k

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura

Posted on: 11/26/2019 01:14 AM

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@MegaFalloutFan
unless you know everyone will need those lanes, its not a factor for everyone.
and when you have pce 4.0 you dont even need to.
a 1080 that wont saturate a 8x slot (3.0) can run on a 4x slot on pce 4.0
i can put a 570 board in 4x/4x/4x/4x mode an its better than 3.0 doing 8x on each slot, because of less overhead.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:49 AM

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Gamers: 9900K cheaper
Everything else: AMD is faster and cheaper
Who buys this?!

Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:59 AM

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@fry178 @alanm Your words fall on deaf ears, literally futile to continue with that. If you've seen his post history, you'd know what I mean.

Great review as always, gave me something to read on my breaks today.

To think, Zen 3 is right around the corner. Oh to be a fly on the wall at Intel .

Posted on: 11/26/2019 08:26 AM

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Buy Intel - cough, cough Bye, Intel.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 10:27 AM

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$999 of disappointment. At least beat consumer Ryzen 3950 ($749) in more benchmarks to stay competitive or lower the damn price.

Can't spread marketing "gaming king" bullshit with this type of CPU
Deliver numbers or go home!

Posted on: 11/26/2019 12:48 PM

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Gamers: 9900K cheaper
Everything else: AMD is faster and cheaper
Who buys this?!

Maybe someone who already has a X299 MB???

Posted on: 11/26/2019 02:11 PM

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its a dead end platform, meanwhile TR3 will go up to 64 cores and has pcie 4 with even more lanes

i had a rig with a 6600 and between forking out $300+ for yet another quad i7 vs 300$ for a decent board + ryzen 5 that was a no brainer at all, now i can go up to a 3900x or even a 3950x which makes anything other than the 9900k in gaming(for now) completely irrelevant

Posted on: 11/26/2019 02:25 PM

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Ordered this CPU from Newegg, can't wait. It seems it performs as 9900k in gaming, and it is good overclocker. Basically 9900k with 18/36, could not ask for more. It will be cheap upgrade to my x299 system.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 02:44 PM

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You didnt look at the gaming benchmarks then. Its not even close to 9900k. It needs a waterfall (like bender from futurama) to cool this thing which pullls 500w when pushed.

Its a dumb chip for a dumbass users, sorry.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:27 PM

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Cheap... not really.
But indeed a good upgrade for someone who had the 10-core version on X299 during the age of 7000 series, near double the cores for $1000 and that's it !

For anyone else... NO, NO, NO and NO. Building a new PC with X299 today is pure insanity.

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A bit side story...

I kept looking for an upgrade to my old 6800K system on X99 but unfortunately all CPUs on that platform are still expensive (6900K, 6950X, or Xeons).
Guess I'll have to wait until new EPYC Rome replaces all datacenter installations en masse and maybe I can snag a cheap 18-core Xeon for X99...
- Xeon E5-2699 v3 (18c)
- Xeon E5-2698 v3 (16c)
- Xeon E5-2697 v3 (14c)

These would make a nice CPU upgrade for the already old X99 platform, assuming I can snag one on the 2nd hand market somewhere...

Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:56 PM

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Can you post the newegg link? I dont see it there.
nm... https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10th-gen-core-i9-10980xe/p/N82E16819118112

Posted on: 11/26/2019 04:05 PM

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Hardware Unboxed has the entire Casket Lake X lineup... from an unknown source:



They get beaten at all price points, basically.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 04:21 PM

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its like intel loves us for only a 1000

Posted on: 11/26/2019 04:42 PM

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Hardware Unboxed has the entire Casket Lake X lineup... from an unknown source:

They get beaten at all price points, basically.

Ouch, that was harsh.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 06:11 PM

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@CyberSparky
I know, still like to post for ppl that dont know better
or that come by search engine and no idea that some
here would still say "best ever" while their unit is literally on fire in the background

Posted on: 11/26/2019 06:53 PM

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@MegaFalloutFan
unless you know everyone will need those lanes, its not a factor for everyone.
and when you have pce 4.0 you dont even need to.
a 1080 that wont saturate a 8x slot (3.0) can run on a 4x slot on pce 4.0
i can put a 570 board in 4x/4x/4x/4x mode an its better than 3.0 doing 8x on each slot, because of less overhead.

You dont know how PCIe works, Gen 4 x4 only equals to gen 3.0 x8 in Bandwidth, but if you connect Gen 3.0 x16 GPU to Gen 4.0 x8 slot, the card will only run at x8 speed, because it needs electric connection across all 16 lanes.
Your theory only valid in some future where every device is Gen 4, then a gen 4 GPU can use 8 lanes and be as fast as gen 3 16 lanes, but right now the only gen 4 devices we have is some ssds.
Everything else is Gen 3, i mean Capture cards, GPUs and RAID cards

Posted on: 11/26/2019 06:58 PM

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You didnt look at the gaming benchmarks then. Its not even close to 9900k. It needs a waterfall (like bender from futurama) to cool this thing which pullls 500w when pushed.

Its a dumb chip for a dumbass users, sorry.

Forbes so far was the only realistic Reviewer showing us how it performs Stock vs 4.7Ghz vs 3950x and 3950x overclocked
This CPU at 4.7Ghz is unbeatable




- Xeon E5-2699 v3 (18c)
- Xeon E5-2698 v3 (16c)
- Xeon E5-2697 v3 (14c)

These would make a nice CPU upgrade for the already old X99 platform, assuming I can snag one on the 2nd hand market somewhere...


Just checked, plenty on Xeon E5-2699 v3 eBay

Posted on: 11/26/2019 08:12 PM

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Forbes so far was the only realistic Reviewer showing us how it performs Stock vs 4.7Ghz vs 3950x and 3950x overclocked
This CPU at 4.7Ghz is unbeatablle
Forbes... wow, you must have been fishing far and wide to find the results you wanted .

Posted on: 11/26/2019 08:15 PM

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I see what you are trying to insinuate there, that is a little far fetched man. No, on this forums you all now it, there are pro-Intel and pro-AMD users and the two do not mix well. Every time I post an intel review, the pro-AMD team will give me crap and vice versa. Intel has not done anything else other than providing a sample so I really do not appreciate the suggestive remark you make there. There is little wrong with the 10980XE for the team Intel end-user. I mean prices got slashed in half, it is a notch faster compared to last gen, has been vulnerability hardened, offers good game performance and has 18-cores at pretty snazzy temps. So for that Intel aficionado, I can certainly recommend this processor if you need that many cores. A recommended award is, however, the lowest in the stack of our awards.

The proc is, in fact, competing with 3950X, which has two cores less and 250 bucks cheaper, and guess what, that one received a Top pick award. So let's not get blinded and throw around weird excuses over an award, shall we? As I get the feeling you don't want to see that ward, just because it's Intel? It is a good proc and a solid platform at a price that is half of what it could have been. But anyone can see that AMD is shaking and rattling all cages in the market.

Okay Chief or is it Chef? Nicely put

Posted on: 11/26/2019 08:21 PM

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Intel doesn't have any new products. These are just refreshes. They also won't have any products next year.

One day, my kids will ask me "what's Intel?" and I'll reply "they were a CPU company back in the day, like IBM." Then they'll ask "what's IBM?"

Posted on: 11/26/2019 09:40 PM

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Since I'm like 90% gaming and 10% productivity stuff, I can hardly see any reason to upgrade from my overclocked i9-7900X. I run my games in 2560x1440 on my 2080Ti so at least until graphics card can speed up and put more demand on the CPU at higher resolution it doesn't seem like its worth the $$ to upgrade yet. Maybe have to wait and see where AMD and Intel fall when both have PCIe 4.0 and graphics cards that can use it.

Posted on: 11/26/2019 11:03 PM

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Forbes... wow, you must have been fishing far and wide to find the results you wanted .
Their tech reviews are sourced from this guy https://twitter.com/antonyleather
Also, how hard can you shill for AyMD? Because you dont like their Truthful results you hate them? Facts are facts, deal with it.
Intel CAN be overclocked, everyone knows it, 4.7Ghz is enough to lead the pack.
Personally i think ill got with 3960x, the platform has future and I dont know how many years it will take for Intel to release a CPU that outright beats 3960x without overclocking.
The only thing that scares me personally is value, AMD CPU lose value like old prostitute, the 1350$ I Paid for the CPU will turn into 700$ next year, I hope this new generation keeps value But unlike Intel, AMD wants their old CPUs to lose value, so people buy new ones.
I really want to give AyMD a try, the CPU is out of stock, if by the time it comes in-stock Intel wont have it for sale for their employees ill keep the 24c AyMD
If not then, 500$ for the 18 core + 500$ for one oft he best mobos = 1K for CPU/Mobo set
My only problem is that right now i have 64GB of AMD GSKILL RAM, Neo something, when i got it 2 months ago, their QVL said its compatible iwth my z370 Gamer 7 and it works full speed, and im sure it will work with TR3 too, but x299 is unknown...


Intel doesn't have any new products. These are just refreshes. They also won't have any products next year.

One day, my kids will ask me "what's Intel?" and I'll reply "they were a CPU company back in the day, like IBM." Then they'll ask "what's IBM?"

Seriously? How old are you? Because When i see all these Intel Dead, Cascet lake etc AyMD fanboy shilling I laugh, like none of you have an idea about Intel.
Unlike AMD, Intel is one of the biggest corporations on planet that has its hands into most business on planet earth, every otehr Corporation has something made by Intel and Intel makes more then just CPUs.
The amount of money Intel makes is more then most 3rd world and even second world countries budgets, the amount of properties like buildings, factories, land, companies etc they own is an immeasurable value , i know its a lot, intels owns property, buildings, otehr companies in most developed and even not that developed countries.
AyMD has ZERO fabs, Intel has 15 Wafer fabs in 10 locations and 13 assembly/test sites.
Last time Intel released a number of how many Coders work for them to optimize code for Intel CPUs , its MORE then WHOLE AMD stuff.
On top of all of the above, Intel has hundreds of contracts for supercomputers and workstations that sighed for years forward, 10-20 years into future and im sure even longer and there are supercomputers build as we speak.
If you think that Intel can fall, you have to be either Trolling or be AMD teenage fanboy.
I mean almost every WEEK there is info that Intel is OVERsold, with their 15 Fabs, they making less products than they can sell.

Now tell me again, how Intel going to flop and die..

Posted on: 11/27/2019 12:50 AM

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@MegaFalloutFan
physical connection 16x and bandwidth speed 16x are not the same.
reducing the slot speed to 4x worked with the 16x 3.0 card (1080 as well as the 1080ti/2080ti from a friend),
and produced slightly better results for benchmarks/games as expected.
multiple tests from different sites have proven that as well, no matter if reducing 16x to 8x,
and/or going with reduction from 3.0 to 2.0.

Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:39 AM

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Intel doesn't have any new products. These are just refreshes. They also won't have any products next year.

One day, my kids will ask me "what's Intel?" and I'll reply "they were a CPU company back in the day, like IBM." Then they'll ask "what's IBM?"

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-->We need AMD to profit very well from Zen2 and Zen3 for the next 2-3 years, Intel to extract the finger from its ass ass start real innovation, then BOTH companies (the more the better) to REMAIN competitive. At the same time...
-->We NEED this to happen to Ngreedia too - let's hope all the best for rDNA2..., !!

Competition, in this context, is the primary driver for innovation. Without that, profit will always stifle innovation.