Intel Core i5-10600K processor review

Posted on: 06/01/2020 11:42 AM

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I thought the same, he's cherry picking results and building a sample that is intentionally unable to take advantage of the uop and smart caches then claiming ipc is less than intels.



- Agner Fog
I record the number of instructions per cycle, as measured by CPU counters, in the two stages of processing. The two stages together effectively parse a JSON document. This is an instruction-heavy benchmark: the numbers of mispredicted branches and cache misses are small.
This is basically his method. This kind of "observation" is by itself disruptive to performance. And bets on assumption that things that make it vastly inaccurate are not present as much.
(It is assumption on his side as many other things.)

And while I do not think he is cherry picking his results, He is limiting comparison to his specific use and uses far from optimal method of measurement.
It is like having some blackbox and measuring it with add & xor instructions only while ignoring all others it can do.
I am sure that Zen2 is not better in every type of data processing than Comet Lake. And that different data structures, sizes, instruction combinations will result in different benefits to each architecture.

I even dare to say: Right tool for job.
And that's where even university professor can easily fail. What he found is that Zen2 based Rome server chip is likely not best suited for his workload.
(I used "likely", because if he used real world testing methods on his workload and measured time to finish versus something meaningful like power draw, Zen 2 may still win and being faster while eating less energy per work done. It is hard to say because he did his best to obscure situation... preventing constructive critics.)

Posted on: 06/01/2020 12:06 PM

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Its when you say things like this no one takes you seriously.



Both of these points are wrong. Most people agree how much Intel has gotten out of 14nm is impressive. And if Intel was on 7nm, they would have pretty much the same power usage. You can't give all this credit to AMD for power usage when its the process that is helping in that area the most, not AMD.

And for the people that seem to think the difference in gaming is only a couple FPS: 1440p, btw.



Pleace give me the link to this test. I want to try this on my 10900k on Apex xii with 4600c16 memory

Edit: Found it
REMOVED: Please stop posting YT Video reviews in a thread about the Guru3D review. Thanks.

I will give it a try on 7980xe @4600 with 4000c16 too. Both 2080ti.
3600mhz is SO year 2014 LOL

I'm a bit cpu/memory limited in BF V in 4k dx11 with 2x2080ti sli Average fps in 4k ultra settings is about 170fps :p

Same fps as max overclocked 3900x @ 1080p with 2080ti :p

Posted on: 06/01/2020 03:24 PM

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So, where´s the 10700K review???

Posted on: 06/01/2020 04:37 PM

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I expect the get some samples 10400K/10700K from Intel next or the following week.

Posted on: 06/01/2020 05:20 PM

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10400k?