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Gigabyte Aorus KD25F 240 Hz Monitor review
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Going from fast to faster, in this review, we will take a look at the Aorus KD25F gaming monitor. This 1920x1080 pixels sized monitor can do something very special and that would be refreshing at 240 Hz. Let's check out among the fastest monitors on the globe.
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Posted on: 07/27/2019 01:39 PM
well, you must have the crappiest IPS ever made. I don't have those issues. Never did.You can go to tftcentral.co.uk/ an read any test/review and see everything precisely measured and shown, down to phase flicker and non of the tested monitors had the issues you are talking about. Basically, YOU would need to provide proof because you are making extraordinary claims.
...sigh...even this is not true. They all have either the same TV channel or demo video running. I haven't seen a store with TVs with static images as demo in over....well never really.
well, you must have the crappiest IPS ever made. I don't have those issues. Never did.You can go to tftcentral.co.uk/ an read any test/review and see everything precisely measured and shown, down to phase flicker and non of the tested monitors had the issues you are talking about. Basically, YOU would need to provide proof because you are making extraordinary claims.
And you surely know why those TVs with lovely colors are showcased with static and vivid images.
...sigh...even this is not true. They all have either the same TV channel or demo video running. I haven't seen a store with TVs with static images as demo in over....well never really.
When you talk about TVs, you know about black frame insertion and why it is done.
It's done for the same reason it would be done on a TN panel TV....Even OLED TVs have them, it's just better.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 07/27/2019 02:35 PM
well, you must have the crappiest IPS ever made. I don't have those issues. Never did.You can go to tftcentral.co.uk/ an read any test/review and see everything precisely measured and shown, down to phase flicker and non of the tested monitors had the issues you are talking about. Basically, YOU would need to provide proof because you are making extraordinary claims.
...sigh...even this is not true. They all have either the same TV channel or demo video running. I haven't seen a store with TVs with static images as demo in over....well never really.
It's done for the same reason it would be done on a TN panel TV....Even OLED TVs have them, it's just better.
Summarize that bold part for me, please. Or, I'll do it for you. GtG. At time it takes IPS to get mere GTG, not black-to-black, TN can show 3~4 frames. You are basically contesting my statement that IPS has ghosting. It does have it. (But, since you wrote about "issues", I expect you to write another one I mentioned.)
And motion... optimally slow motion to minimize visibility of any ghosting. Or minimal inclusion of high contrast zones.
3:30 is best guy could get out of it.
I can read moving text on my screen.
We can go on and on, but you are still going to be wrong. IPS's ghosting at same price is worse than ghosting on TN. Hell, even at double price on IPS. In this example, it is more than 3 times the price.
Edit: And just so everyone understands:
Having 120Hz IPS that shows ghosts forces brain to always process 2 frames at same time. (Never being sure if object moved in given direction or not, just assuming.)
Basically performance only marginally better than ghost-less 60Hz due to having more refreshes per second, but all motion is coming with confusing data.
well, you must have the crappiest IPS ever made. I don't have those issues. Never did.You can go to tftcentral.co.uk/ an read any test/review and see everything precisely measured and shown, down to phase flicker and non of the tested monitors had the issues you are talking about. Basically, YOU would need to provide proof because you are making extraordinary claims.
...sigh...even this is not true. They all have either the same TV channel or demo video running. I haven't seen a store with TVs with static images as demo in over....well never really.
It's done for the same reason it would be done on a TN panel TV....Even OLED TVs have them, it's just better.
Summarize that bold part for me, please. Or, I'll do it for you. GtG. At time it takes IPS to get mere GTG, not black-to-black, TN can show 3~4 frames. You are basically contesting my statement that IPS has ghosting. It does have it. (But, since you wrote about "issues", I expect you to write another one I mentioned.)
And motion... optimally slow motion to minimize visibility of any ghosting. Or minimal inclusion of high contrast zones.
3:30 is best guy could get out of it.
I can read moving text on my screen.
We can go on and on, but you are still going to be wrong. IPS's ghosting at same price is worse than ghosting on TN. Hell, even at double price on IPS. In this example, it is more than 3 times the price.
Edit: And just so everyone understands:
Having 120Hz IPS that shows ghosts forces brain to always process 2 frames at same time. (Never being sure if object moved in given direction or not, just assuming.)
Basically performance only marginally better than ghost-less 60Hz due to having more refreshes per second, but all motion is coming with confusing data.
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Posted on: 07/27/2019 04:22 PM
I totally understand, but..... People who buy these kind of monitors tend to be more interested about input lag, blur, ghosting/overshoot and pixel transition tests, not so much on anything else. So basicly you are leaving the most important things out for competetive gamers.
You can't say that this monitor is "super fast" without knowing how fast it is exactly. Being a super fast monitor and having super fast refresh rate are not the same thing.
Yeah, but there's other sites that do very in depth monitor reviews, it's up to the website in question whether they wanna spend loads of time & money on monitor reviews. The info is out there somewhere on the web if you want to find it.
I totally understand, but..... People who buy these kind of monitors tend to be more interested about input lag, blur, ghosting/overshoot and pixel transition tests, not so much on anything else. So basicly you are leaving the most important things out for competetive gamers.
You can't say that this monitor is "super fast" without knowing how fast it is exactly. Being a super fast monitor and having super fast refresh rate are not the same thing.
Yeah, but there's other sites that do very in depth monitor reviews, it's up to the website in question whether they wanna spend loads of time & money on monitor reviews. The info is out there somewhere on the web if you want to find it.
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Posted on: 07/29/2019 03:03 AM
MSi Optix AG32C is the best choice in 1080p resolution !
MSi Optix AG32C is the best choice in 1080p resolution !
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Every IPS screen can show 24/25/30 frames per second without any problems or ghosting. Most TVs are IPS or VA panel based.
I have nothing against people that want to game on TN panels, but I do have a problem with misinformation that you tried to spread.
It does have those problems. Even when playing 30fps content on 60Hz, there is still that borderline frame where transition happens. Showing same frame twice saves nothing. Therefore having 30fps has no effect on GtG time as content changes. Ghosting in motion is still present on 30 fps. I can reiterate it again in other words, if it is needed.
When you talk about TVs, you know about black frame insertion and why it is done. And you surely know why those TVs with lovely colors are showcased with static and vivid images.