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Nvidia recently released a new entry-level SKU into the market, a GeForce GTX 1050 with 3GB graphics memory. In this review, we'll confirm if this product really is a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, with less memory. If so, that might make these cards an interesting and attractive product to purchase as it has a little more oomph under that hood.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:30 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
IchimA
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:42 PM
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
rl66
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:43 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
You are not, i love single slot solution and/or passive... as a WC user i use single slot solution when it is possible.
Also it is more cute.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
You are not, i love single slot solution and/or passive... as a WC user i use single slot solution when it is possible.
Also it is more cute.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:47 PM
GPUs like this are ideal for ITX builds, and many ITX cases only support 1 slot. Also, some people have a use for all expansion slots available on their motherboard. I have a BOINC rig with 4x GPUs, 1 PCIe wifi card, and a PCI diagnostic card. This would not be possible if it weren't for single-slot cards. Sure, I could maybe use risers or buy aftermarket coolers, but why should I when I don't have to?
Not all - there are plenty of mobos out there with a PCIe x1 slot directly below the x16 slot (or, larger slots when you consider servers and workstations).
I think of this more in a practicality sense:
If you've got a ~50W GPU that can run perfectly cool and quiet as a low-profile single-slot card, why wouldn't you? It's basically universally compatible with all build types. The manufacturer will maximize their market (and therefore profits) if they can accommodate this. So as far as I'm concerned, this is a missed opportunity.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
GPUs like this are ideal for ITX builds, and many ITX cases only support 1 slot. Also, some people have a use for all expansion slots available on their motherboard. I have a BOINC rig with 4x GPUs, 1 PCIe wifi card, and a PCI diagnostic card. This would not be possible if it weren't for single-slot cards. Sure, I could maybe use risers or buy aftermarket coolers, but why should I when I don't have to?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Not all - there are plenty of mobos out there with a PCIe x1 slot directly below the x16 slot (or, larger slots when you consider servers and workstations).
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I think of this more in a practicality sense:
If you've got a ~50W GPU that can run perfectly cool and quiet as a low-profile single-slot card, why wouldn't you? It's basically universally compatible with all build types. The manufacturer will maximize their market (and therefore profits) if they can accommodate this. So as far as I'm concerned, this is a missed opportunity.
airbud7
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:50 PM
Nice review Boss ....weird card for sure...1060 3GB will blow the doors off of it for a few bucks more.
Nice review Boss ....weird card for sure...1060 3GB will blow the doors off of it for a few bucks more.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:54 PM
I still remember reading somewhere about those GTX 1050 3Gb and wondering wha the he... is this card supposed to do? Or fit in? Like, there's no real "gap" there between the 1050Ti and the regular 1050.
But I kept reading, and they mentioned something about lack of availability (same production line of the rest mem chips but lower profit, higher demand from all other chips so no real reason to focus on this model) of 512mb GDDR5 chips. Which kind of made sense, because the 2gb model used 4 of those. So they were not really going to coexist for so long (the 1050 2gb and 3gb), as availability from those 512mb chips was getting smaller, so they could eventually be replaced by the 3gb model. Pricing was also supposed to be either equal or very close. Then again, gpu market is still very weird price wise so...
I still remember reading somewhere about those GTX 1050 3Gb and wondering wha the he... is this card supposed to do? Or fit in? Like, there's no real "gap" there between the 1050Ti and the regular 1050.
But I kept reading, and they mentioned something about lack of availability (same production line of the rest mem chips but lower profit, higher demand from all other chips so no real reason to focus on this model) of 512mb GDDR5 chips. Which kind of made sense, because the 2gb model used 4 of those. So they were not really going to coexist for so long (the 1050 2gb and 3gb), as availability from those 512mb chips was getting smaller, so they could eventually be replaced by the 3gb model. Pricing was also supposed to be either equal or very close. Then again, gpu market is still very weird price wise so...
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:59 PM
the best were GTX 280/260 it was the 1st of the new gen GPU (ok it was hot not only in perf lol)
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
the best were GTX 280/260 it was the 1st of the new gen GPU (ok it was hot not only in perf lol)
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:19 PM
because PC enthusiasts? love single slot watercooling setups:
because PC enthusiasts? love single slot watercooling setups:
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:53 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
"You will spot a product with a nice and white PCB and rather sizable cooler for this rather simple product."
Where's that white PCB?
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
"You will spot a product with a nice and white PCB and rather sizable cooler for this rather simple product."
Where's that white PCB?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:57 PM
Single slot water cooling I understand looks nice + you remove the cooling challenges at hand. mITX, sure fair enough. The rest though .. why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster? Ah well, if demand is high enough, surely some manufacturers will offer it at one point. Each his own preference of course.
Single slot water cooling I understand looks nice + you remove the cooling challenges at hand. mITX, sure fair enough. The rest though .. why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster? Ah well, if demand is high enough, surely some manufacturers will offer it at one point. Each his own preference of course.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:03 PM
I'm not sure I understand. There would be no performance loss with a single-slot 1050, and I personally not suggesting someone get multiple 1050s (especially since you can't SLI them), but rather you can slot in other expansion cards (any kind, doesn't matter) below them.
why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster?
I'm not sure I understand. There would be no performance loss with a single-slot 1050, and I personally not suggesting someone get multiple 1050s (especially since you can't SLI them), but rather you can slot in other expansion cards (any kind, doesn't matter) below them.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:10 PM
Really, this card is for that market who's consumer agonises over spending an extra £10 or £20, when they already went over their budget 2 components ago.
Really, this card is for that market who's consumer agonises over spending an extra £10 or £20, when they already went over their budget 2 components ago.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:15 PM
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
Yes, there's a massive supercomputer-like performance in that chip, but having just one single component consuming upwards of 150W and heating up to 90 degrees and staying there for hours as a person is gaming... is pretty insane.
Unfortunately, unless some breakthrough in materials is done to make "almost superconducting" transistors with extremely small leakage, allowing current day performance with half or less power consumption, we'll still see these monster GPU cards.
However, such high performance is not always needed, so small GPU's that don't even need extra power cables are welcomed for all the usage cases when supercomputing level performance is not needed, but still nice to have the ability to run 3D games (albeit with lower details) or complpex 3D software (like Google Maps/Earth)
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
Yes, there's a massive supercomputer-like performance in that chip, but having just one single component consuming upwards of 150W and heating up to 90 degrees and staying there for hours as a person is gaming... is pretty insane.
Unfortunately, unless some breakthrough in materials is done to make "almost superconducting" transistors with extremely small leakage, allowing current day performance with half or less power consumption, we'll still see these monster GPU cards.
However, such high performance is not always needed, so small GPU's that don't even need extra power cables are welcomed for all the usage cases when supercomputing level performance is not needed, but still nice to have the ability to run 3D games (albeit with lower details) or complpex 3D software (like Google Maps/Earth)
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:22 PM
I wish single slot cards was still the standard. We should have adapters. But instead we reached 3-slot(2.5x more precisely) gpus. Even 2-slot isn't really enthusiastic anymore. We reinforced pci slots just for this weight. Technology doesn't go always forward in all aspects.
I wish single slot cards was still the standard. We should have adapters. But instead we reached 3-slot(2.5x more precisely) gpus. Even 2-slot isn't really enthusiastic anymore. We reinforced pci slots just for this weight. Technology doesn't go always forward in all aspects.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:34 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I would use single slot only for physx and that would be ideal, don't have room for primary 2-3 slot + another 2slot.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I would use single slot only for physx and that would be ideal, don't have room for primary 2-3 slot + another 2slot.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:37 PM
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
What? they were getting smaller and faster...I have a gigantic hd 6870 that is slower than a little tiny gtx 1050
a cheap 1050ti or 1060/3GB can outperform a xbox1 easy...it used to take more$
But yeah^ ...1080ti is the Big King Now.
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
What? they were getting smaller and faster...I have a gigantic hd 6870 that is slower than a little tiny gtx 1050
a cheap 1050ti or 1060/3GB can outperform a xbox1 easy...it used to take more$
But yeah^ ...1080ti is the Big King Now.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 05:57 PM
What? they were getting smaller and faster...I have a gigantic hd 6870 that is slower than a little tiny gtx 1050
a cheap 1050ti or 1060/3GB can outperform a xbox1 easy...it used to take more$
I wouldn't consider that a fair comparison. The 6870 is nearly 8 years old, and XB1 is 5 years old (weird to think about). Transistors and processor architectures themselves may be getting smaller and faster, but power envelopes are being pushed to extremes. For example, the HD 7970 is (to my knowledge) the oldest consumer-grade single-GPU AIB that features 2x 8-pin power connectors. If you include dual-GPU AIBs, I believe the GTX 490 is the oldest. The trend doesn't seem to be dying down.
What? they were getting smaller and faster...I have a gigantic hd 6870 that is slower than a little tiny gtx 1050
a cheap 1050ti or 1060/3GB can outperform a xbox1 easy...it used to take more$
I wouldn't consider that a fair comparison. The 6870 is nearly 8 years old, and XB1 is 5 years old (weird to think about). Transistors and processor architectures themselves may be getting smaller and faster, but power envelopes are being pushed to extremes. For example, the HD 7970 is (to my knowledge) the oldest consumer-grade single-GPU AIB that features 2x 8-pin power connectors. If you include dual-GPU AIBs, I believe the GTX 490 is the oldest. The trend doesn't seem to be dying down.
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Posted on: 07/06/2018 08:40 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I'll answer that question with one of my own. "Why do motherboard manufacturers insist on placing the sole PCIe x1 slot on many mATX boards below the PCIe x16 slot instead of above?" (As schmidtbag, quite correctly, points out.) I'd offer that all motherboards are not designed for dual-slot, if that means you're losing a PCIe slot as a result of using a dual-width graphics card. I think the buying public has just become too complacent in accepting this situation, and, as a result the engineers don't have any motivation to change it.
XFX was/is producing a 4Gb single-slot RX 560 that proved to be a life-saver for a co-worker when his on-board Realtek NIC decided to go on permanent holiday. He was able to install a 1Gbit PCIe x1 Intel NIC just below it. Since the 560 replaced an older two-slot GTX 750, it turned out to be a step-up in graphics and networking performance for him. I'd like to find one of those single-slot XFX 560's myself, but they seem impossible to locate. I've seen a few on eBay, but the sellers are asking fifty million dollars...
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I'll answer that question with one of my own. "Why do motherboard manufacturers insist on placing the sole PCIe x1 slot on many mATX boards below the PCIe x16 slot instead of above?" (As schmidtbag, quite correctly, points out.) I'd offer that all motherboards are not designed for dual-slot, if that means you're losing a PCIe slot as a result of using a dual-width graphics card. I think the buying public has just become too complacent in accepting this situation, and, as a result the engineers don't have any motivation to change it.
XFX was/is producing a 4Gb single-slot RX 560 that proved to be a life-saver for a co-worker when his on-board Realtek NIC decided to go on permanent holiday. He was able to install a 1Gbit PCIe x1 Intel NIC just below it. Since the 560 replaced an older two-slot GTX 750, it turned out to be a step-up in graphics and networking performance for him. I'd like to find one of those single-slot XFX 560's myself, but they seem impossible to locate. I've seen a few on eBay, but the sellers are asking fifty million dollars...
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 12:11 AM
No RX560 4GB card????
No RX560 4GB card????
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 07:49 AM
you have the ROPs wrong as it has 24 not 32.
you have the ROPs wrong as it has 24 not 32.
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 08:51 AM
I am still waiting on confirmation on that from NV. It's 32 for 1050 2GB and 32 for 1050 Ti. However 96-bit means one less memory channel, that suggests 24 ROPs.
I am still waiting on confirmation on that from NV. It's 32 for 1050 2GB and 32 for 1050 Ti. However 96-bit means one less memory channel, that suggests 24 ROPs.
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 09:19 AM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I had one of those single-slot XFX 8800gt which was very cheap for the performance. but boy, it was terrible when it came to cooling and acoustics. right now I have two 1080 and one 1080ti running at 100% load and three of them combined produce much much less noise than that card while the temp is 40C less too. yes the XFX card ran at 105c under heavy load!!! GTX 1050 is much less power hungry so I guess noise and heat won't be much of an issue with this GPU but still I never buy a single-slot card again.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I had one of those single-slot XFX 8800gt which was very cheap for the performance. but boy, it was terrible when it came to cooling and acoustics. right now I have two 1080 and one 1080ti running at 100% load and three of them combined produce much much less noise than that card while the temp is 40C less too. yes the XFX card ran at 105c under heavy load!!! GTX 1050 is much less power hungry so I guess noise and heat won't be much of an issue with this GPU but still I never buy a single-slot card again.
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 09:28 AM
We need 4 slot cards with on-board refrigeration! :p
I do not miss the days of jet engine sounding video cards. Back then, I always used aftermarket GPU coolers which made my 1x slot card a 2x slot card. I think my GTX260 was the 1st card I owned that I liked the OEM cooler well enough to leave it.
We need 4 slot cards with on-board refrigeration! :p
I do not miss the days of jet engine sounding video cards. Back then, I always used aftermarket GPU coolers which made my 1x slot card a 2x slot card. I think my GTX260 was the 1st card I owned that I liked the OEM cooler well enough to leave it.
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Posted on: 07/07/2018 01:22 PM
Personally, single slot cards although nice for the low end, cannot be used on the high end mind you, they make too much heat.
Power consumption has been going up and down past few generations, ofcourse power per watt has gone way up with that being said. and cards like the 1080ti do insane power per watt which is nice, and loads of low end cards dont even need and power from the PSU now just from the motherboard which is lovely for anyone who doesn't have the extra power.
Don't know maybe more people are making mini builds now so single slot sounds nice, i still enjoy big cases, more to work with
Personally, single slot cards although nice for the low end, cannot be used on the high end mind you, they make too much heat.
Power consumption has been going up and down past few generations, ofcourse power per watt has gone way up with that being said. and cards like the 1080ti do insane power per watt which is nice, and loads of low end cards dont even need and power from the PSU now just from the motherboard which is lovely for anyone who doesn't have the extra power.
Don't know maybe more people are making mini builds now so single slot sounds nice, i still enjoy big cases, more to work with
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It's a good thing they marketed it as a 1050, because that 96-bit memory is pretty crippling. Even when the GPU core is overwhlemed in 4K, the memory still bottlenecks the performance.
I also think they easily could've made this a single-slot GPU. It runs pretty cool, even under full load. Making this a dual-slot reduces the amount of potential cases you could put it in.