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GALAX HOF Pro PCIe 4.0 NVMe review
Posted by: on: 01/27/2020 09:44 AM [
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Fast, faster fastest? We review the GALAX HOF 1TB PCIe Gen 4.0 SSD. It reaches the fastest transfer rates we have seen thus far at 5 GB/sec. Of course, it is an SSD you can seat into any PCIe 3.0 compatible PC, however, if you place it into a Ryzen 3000 / X570 based PC, some magic happens as you are running 4000 to 5000 MB/s numbers and higher, thanks to the new PCIe 4.0 interface and a little TLC from Phison, well Toshiba strictly speaking.
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LIGuitar77
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 01:49 PM
Storage device manufacturers in year 3000 will still be saying a GB is 1000 MB. hahaha
Storage device manufacturers in year 3000 will still be saying a GB is 1000 MB. hahaha
Mda400
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 02:32 PM
It has to due with how data transfer is calculated, usually with networking involving bits to bytes calculation.
But this gets confused when talking about non-networking products that typically talk in the "byte" value. Even typing 5000 MB to GB in duckduckgo, gives me a result of 5GB... It's 5,120 MB that equal 5 GB.
Storage device manufacturers in year 3000 will still be saying a GB is 1000 MB. hahaha
It has to due with how data transfer is calculated, usually with networking involving bits to bytes calculation.
But this gets confused when talking about non-networking products that typically talk in the "byte" value. Even typing 5000 MB to GB in duckduckgo, gives me a result of 5GB... It's 5,120 MB that equal 5 GB.
tunejunky
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 02:58 PM
another great review HH.
i feel like a Ferengi learning the rules of acquisition, cuz i'm a greedy lil' pup who likes shiny.
another great review HH.
i feel like a Ferengi learning the rules of acquisition, cuz i'm a greedy lil' pup who likes shiny.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 03:43 PM
It has to due with how data transfer is calculated, usually with networking involving bits to bytes calculation.
But this gets confused when talking about non-networking products that typically talk in the "byte" value. Even typing 5000 MB to GB in duckduckgo, gives me a result of 5GB... It's 5,120 MB that equal 5 GB.
Please don't.
It has to due with how data transfer is calculated, usually with networking involving bits to bytes calculation.
But this gets confused when talking about non-networking products that typically talk in the "byte" value. Even typing 5000 MB to GB in duckduckgo, gives me a result of 5GB... It's 5,120 MB that equal 5 GB.
Please don't.
Kool64
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 04:15 PM
It looks pretty cool but given my primary M.2 slot is buried squarely under my video card I'd be hard pressed to wonder if they charged extra for the white PCB and "fancy" heat sink.
It looks pretty cool but given my primary M.2 slot is buried squarely under my video card I'd be hard pressed to wonder if they charged extra for the white PCB and "fancy" heat sink.
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Posted on: 01/27/2020 06:42 PM
There's chips on both sides? How do you cool the chips facing down to the mobo. I thought these m.2 had all the chips facing upwards. Could it throttle because of that fact.
There's chips on both sides? How do you cool the chips facing down to the mobo. I thought these m.2 had all the chips facing upwards. Could it throttle because of that fact.
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 06:25 AM
Man, these are still expensive as hell for 2TB. I bet I upgrade in three years or so. Maybe even more than that. My SATA 2TB is doing great for the 180 cost. Obviously, not in the speed league of this guy, but it works for me.
Man, these are still expensive as hell for 2TB. I bet I upgrade in three years or so. Maybe even more than that. My SATA 2TB is doing great for the 180 cost. Obviously, not in the speed league of this guy, but it works for me.
anticupidon
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 08:57 AM
Great to see improvement in NVMe area.
Slowly, all enterprise stuff eventually will reach to a better price point and better for everyone.
Still, there is room for improvement and what we are getting now, somewhere 3-4 years down the road will be less than the norm.
Great to see improvement in NVMe area.
Slowly, all enterprise stuff eventually will reach to a better price point and better for everyone.
Still, there is room for improvement and what we are getting now, somewhere 3-4 years down the road will be less than the norm.
LIGuitar77
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 09:09 AM
I think it started out with the intent of fooling those not in the know and it since it worked so well, they all just stuck with it. heh
It has to due with how data transfer is calculated, usually with networking involving bits to bytes calculation.
I think it started out with the intent of fooling those not in the know and it since it worked so well, they all just stuck with it. heh
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 10:59 AM
That was one of mandatory properties when I was picking board. I wanted M.2 above 1st full x16 PCIe slot.
Some M.2 SSDs heat up a lot.
It looks pretty cool but given my primary M.2 slot is buried squarely under my video card I'd be hard pressed to wonder if they charged extra for the white PCB and "fancy" heat sink.
That was one of mandatory properties when I was picking board. I wanted M.2 above 1st full x16 PCIe slot.
Some M.2 SSDs heat up a lot.
tunejunky
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 03:00 PM
this is clearly not for everyone. but if you have a theme and an exposed M.2 slot this would be the icing on a tasty cake.
this is clearly not for everyone. but if you have a theme and an exposed M.2 slot this would be the icing on a tasty cake.
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 03:10 PM
Technically, storage manufacturers make use of SI units correctly, 1GB meaning precisely 1 billion bytes or 1,000,000,000 and not the formatted usage we're accustomed to which if we were to use the binary prefix would be GiB or Gibibyte and thus 1,073,741,824 bytes. The truth is we don't actually use the units correctly in daily usage.
Technically, storage manufacturers make use of SI units correctly, 1GB meaning precisely 1 billion bytes or 1,000,000,000 and not the formatted usage we're accustomed to which if we were to use the binary prefix would be GiB or Gibibyte and thus 1,073,741,824 bytes. The truth is we don't actually use the units correctly in daily usage.
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 03:31 PM
I had a headache understanding what I was supposed to do with my M.2 on the TRX40 Msi Creator, but they designed the slots to work with single-side and dual-side, there are thermal pads on both sides under the covers and depending on how many sides are populated you add/remove, still unsure I did it right...I guess so ?
(less than 1hr of uptime, it's going to go in the 50-57 but not much more)
Force MP600 37 °C (diretc airflow from bottom fans)
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 1TB 36 °C / 46 °C(special placement between right memory stick and 24pin psu cable)
Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB 43 °C / 48 °C (airflow blocked by pcie card in bottom slot)
one thing for sure even in my intel build, M.2 require good airflow, behind the gpu helps or not depending on how hot it gets, if you set the fan to min rpm for example 1000rpm with msi afterburner the videocard will blow air onto the m.2 and thus actively cool it, it's when you play games using 98% of your gpu that things go bad, slots above the gpu will be hotter as the gpu backplate is the no1 heat generator when gaming inside your case, backplate temp go to 80 or 100°C (I learned that the hard way when I had a case with a door left panel, opened it placed my fingers on the backplate after 8hrs of gaming, bad idea) easily if you play high detail borderlands 3 (game is using the gpu as much as stress tests like Kombustor) and the slot under the gpu will have 60°C or more air blown onto it
this is the reason why I completely dropped cpu air cooling and now only buy cases with bottom fans, the only fix for those damn glass panel cases (without it your rear-below quarter under the gpu has absolutely zero airflow and your gpu is sucking constantly hot air, your front fans air is going straight up to the top exhaust and never reaches there)
There's chips on both sides? How do you cool the chips facing down to the mobo. I thought these m.2 had all the chips facing upwards. Could it throttle because of that fact.
I had a headache understanding what I was supposed to do with my M.2 on the TRX40 Msi Creator, but they designed the slots to work with single-side and dual-side, there are thermal pads on both sides under the covers and depending on how many sides are populated you add/remove, still unsure I did it right...I guess so ?
(less than 1hr of uptime, it's going to go in the 50-57 but not much more)
Force MP600 37 °C (diretc airflow from bottom fans)
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 1TB 36 °C / 46 °C(special placement between right memory stick and 24pin psu cable)
Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB 43 °C / 48 °C (airflow blocked by pcie card in bottom slot)
one thing for sure even in my intel build, M.2 require good airflow, behind the gpu helps or not depending on how hot it gets, if you set the fan to min rpm for example 1000rpm with msi afterburner the videocard will blow air onto the m.2 and thus actively cool it, it's when you play games using 98% of your gpu that things go bad, slots above the gpu will be hotter as the gpu backplate is the no1 heat generator when gaming inside your case, backplate temp go to 80 or 100°C (I learned that the hard way when I had a case with a door left panel, opened it placed my fingers on the backplate after 8hrs of gaming, bad idea) easily if you play high detail borderlands 3 (game is using the gpu as much as stress tests like Kombustor) and the slot under the gpu will have 60°C or more air blown onto it
this is the reason why I completely dropped cpu air cooling and now only buy cases with bottom fans, the only fix for those damn glass panel cases (without it your rear-below quarter under the gpu has absolutely zero airflow and your gpu is sucking constantly hot air, your front fans air is going straight up to the top exhaust and never reaches there)
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Posted on: 01/30/2020 12:36 AM
I was surprised drives getting hot even regular ones. I just got a MX500 2TB Corsair. It hit about 53C while transferring large game files. I was seeing sustained transfer rats of 500MB/sec moving from one SSD to another. It's not in an enclosed space and idle temp is 21C.
I was surprised drives getting hot even regular ones. I just got a MX500 2TB Corsair. It hit about 53C while transferring large game files. I was seeing sustained transfer rats of 500MB/sec moving from one SSD to another. It's not in an enclosed space and idle temp is 21C.
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Posted on: 01/30/2020 07:49 AM
i did a error scan on an ssd to see if slow spots was a thing that also affected ssd's recently and it pushed it to 60c.
I was surprised drives getting hot even regular ones. I just got a MX500 2TB Corsair. It hit about 53C while transferring large game files. I was seeing sustained transfer rats of 500MB/sec moving from one SSD to another. It's not in an enclosed space and idle temp is 21C.
i did a error scan on an ssd to see if slow spots was a thing that also affected ssd's recently and it pushed it to 60c.
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Posted on: 02/01/2020 07:05 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn hi, where I can buy it?
@Hilbert Hagedoorn hi, where I can buy it?
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Posted on: 02/04/2020 02:26 PM
Yeah NVME drives can get very warm when used which can lead to the drive not performing to its fullest potential. I remember this one SSD that is a standard SATA that had RGB lighting which is nice and all but it was causing the drive to generate more heat than usual for a SATA SSD which caused the drive's performance to degrade so much that the entire system was in slow mode to the computer locking up.
This would be perfect for one of them white builds or black and white builds with either that limited edition ASUS Strix 2080 Ti card or the Galax HOF 2080 Ti that is white if aesthetics is something you care about.
Yeah NVME drives can get very warm when used which can lead to the drive not performing to its fullest potential. I remember this one SSD that is a standard SATA that had RGB lighting which is nice and all but it was causing the drive to generate more heat than usual for a SATA SSD which caused the drive's performance to degrade so much that the entire system was in slow mode to the computer locking up.
This would be perfect for one of them white builds or black and white builds with either that limited edition ASUS Strix 2080 Ti card or the Galax HOF 2080 Ti that is white if aesthetics is something you care about.
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Same 4k random read @qd=1 performance as samsung Sm951 nvme released in 2015.
Looks like there is no need to upgrade for a bit higher seq read and write yet
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