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Far Cry Primal: PC graphics performance benchmark review
Posted by: on: 03/01/2016 02:34 PM [
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We take a look at Far Cry Primal in our usual in-depth ways. That would be tested on the PC gaming wise relative towards graphics card performance with the latest AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers. Multiple graphics cards are being tested and benchmarked. We have a look at performance with the newest graphics cards and technologies.
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fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 03:03 PM
Great review so far again HH! Even the latest Nvidia driver's already used, nice
Great review so far again HH! Even the latest Nvidia driver's already used, nice
Undying
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 03:08 PM
Another good review HH. Im glad you are still including Tahiti GPU in your charts. Its still performing nicely.
AMD and nVidia seems to do well in FC. Isnt that bad performing as reported early.
Another good review HH. Im glad you are still including Tahiti GPU in your charts. Its still performing nicely.
AMD and nVidia seems to do well in FC. Isnt that bad performing as reported early.
dr_rus
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 03:18 PM
Another good review HH. Im glad you are still including Tahiti GPU in your charts. Its still performing nicely.
AMD and nVidia seems to do well in FC. Isnt that bad performing as reported early.
Eh, not really true for NV. Latest Dunia engine iterations (FC4 and Primal) definitely favor GCN cards for some reason as can be seen from 290X outperforming GTX980 -- which isn't something which happens regularly.
Another good review HH. Im glad you are still including Tahiti GPU in your charts. Its still performing nicely.
AMD and nVidia seems to do well in FC. Isnt that bad performing as reported early.
Eh, not really true for NV. Latest Dunia engine iterations (FC4 and Primal) definitely favor GCN cards for some reason as can be seen from 290X outperforming GTX980 -- which isn't something which happens regularly.
Undying
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 03:42 PM
Doom alpha, Division beta, Hitman beta this also can be seen. 290X/390X outperforming GTX980 while 290 outperforming GTX970. Look at the 780ti, its left behind so much and no one cares about it.
To be honest all those trends i mention above started to happen regularly.
Eh, not really true for NV. Latest Dunia engine iterations (FC4 and Primal) definitely favor GCN cards for some reason as can be seen from 290X outperforming GTX980 -- which isn't something which happens regularly.
Doom alpha, Division beta, Hitman beta this also can be seen. 290X/390X outperforming GTX980 while 290 outperforming GTX970. Look at the 780ti, its left behind so much and no one cares about it.
To be honest all those trends i mention above started to happen regularly.
Dragondale13
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 05:04 PM
Doom alpha, Division beta, Hitman beta this also can be seen. 290X/390X outperforming GTX980 while 290 outperforming GTX970. Look at the 780ti, its left behind so much and no one cares about it.
To be honest all those trends i mention above started to happen regularly.
But then there's the chance Nvidia can whip up some driver magic like they usually do.Unless the DX12 API makes that notion null and void but I doubt it.It's the usual trend with new APIs and Tech, AMD would come blazing through the gates, everyone focusing on them and how late Nvidia is.When Nvidia's ready, AMD gets sidelined due to unrivaled driver optimization and power consumption.
I really hope I'm wrong for AMD's sake because they're not looking good as a company right now.Wouldn't wish their employees out of work, not in this economy.
Doom alpha, Division beta, Hitman beta this also can be seen. 290X/390X outperforming GTX980 while 290 outperforming GTX970. Look at the 780ti, its left behind so much and no one cares about it.
To be honest all those trends i mention above started to happen regularly.
But then there's the chance Nvidia can whip up some driver magic like they usually do.Unless the DX12 API makes that notion null and void but I doubt it.It's the usual trend with new APIs and Tech, AMD would come blazing through the gates, everyone focusing on them and how late Nvidia is.When Nvidia's ready, AMD gets sidelined due to unrivaled driver optimization and power consumption.
I really hope I'm wrong for AMD's sake because they're not looking good as a company right now.Wouldn't wish their employees out of work, not in this economy.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 05:23 PM
But then there's the chance Nvidia can whip up some driver magic like they usually do.Unless the DX12 API makes that notion null and void but I doubt it.It's the usual trend with new APIs and Tech, AMD would come blazing through the gates, everyone focusing on them and how late Nvidia is.When Nvidia's ready, AMD gets sidelined due to unrivaled driver optimization and power consumption.
I really hope I'm wrong for AMD's sake because they're not looking good as a company right now.Wouldn't wish their employees out of work, not in this economy.
Same thing happened in 2010 with fermi launch.
GTX 480 was faster but was 6 months newer as well.
I remember seeing so many fanboys saying AMD is slow haha cant beat the gtx 480 blah blah.
Im just glad to see AMD and Nvidia close in performance.
We cant ever goo back too 2007 again. That time sucked for Radeon.
While I had an 8800gts 512, when the HD 4870 launched, I was very happy to see it.
I just hope it doesnt take months to get a proper Xfire profile.
Since its very close to FC4.
But then there's the chance Nvidia can whip up some driver magic like they usually do.Unless the DX12 API makes that notion null and void but I doubt it.It's the usual trend with new APIs and Tech, AMD would come blazing through the gates, everyone focusing on them and how late Nvidia is.When Nvidia's ready, AMD gets sidelined due to unrivaled driver optimization and power consumption.
I really hope I'm wrong for AMD's sake because they're not looking good as a company right now.Wouldn't wish their employees out of work, not in this economy.
Same thing happened in 2010 with fermi launch.
GTX 480 was faster but was 6 months newer as well.
I remember seeing so many fanboys saying AMD is slow haha cant beat the gtx 480 blah blah.
Im just glad to see AMD and Nvidia close in performance.
We cant ever goo back too 2007 again. That time sucked for Radeon.
While I had an 8800gts 512, when the HD 4870 launched, I was very happy to see it.
I just hope it doesnt take months to get a proper Xfire profile.
Since its very close to FC4.
Dragondale13
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 05:45 PM
Same thing happened in 2010 with fermi launch.
GTX 480 was faster but was 6 months newer as well.
I remember seeing so many fanboys saying AMD is slow haha cant beat the gtx 480 blah blah.
Im just glad to see AMD and Nvidia close in performance.
We cant ever goo back too 2007 again. That time sucked for Radeon.
While I had an 8800gts 512, when the HD 4870 launched, I was very happy to see it.
I just hope it doesnt take months to get a proper Xfire profile.
Since its very close to FC4.
That's a trend I'm hoping AMD can nail down and be on par with Nvidia for once.As for power consumption, I consider it a non-issue as frame limiting is an easy cure.But like you said, it really is a good feeling to see Radeons back up there and have the two slug it out.
Same thing happened in 2010 with fermi launch.
GTX 480 was faster but was 6 months newer as well.
I remember seeing so many fanboys saying AMD is slow haha cant beat the gtx 480 blah blah.
Im just glad to see AMD and Nvidia close in performance.
We cant ever goo back too 2007 again. That time sucked for Radeon.
While I had an 8800gts 512, when the HD 4870 launched, I was very happy to see it.
I just hope it doesnt take months to get a proper Xfire profile.
Since its very close to FC4.
That's a trend I'm hoping AMD can nail down and be on par with Nvidia for once.As for power consumption, I consider it a non-issue as frame limiting is an easy cure.But like you said, it really is a good feeling to see Radeons back up there and have the two slug it out.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 06:19 PM
Fully agreed on power consumption.
I limit BF4 to 80 fps. Keeps my cards under 70c load.
Im not worried about power comsumption.
If I was Id have 2 gtx 960 or R9 285s.
I have no preference over nvidia or amd except for business models.
I prefer AMD there. Hardware wise, its about the same for both.
I do love seeing that 280x is 9 frames from the 780ti. Thats impressive.
This game does look like its runs well though for both sides.
I wanna try it on all 3 of my rigs.
290x xfire in one,
R9 280 in 2nd and
GTX 670 4gb in the 3rd.
That's a trend I'm hoping AMD can nail down and be on par with Nvidia for once.As for power consumption, I consider it a non-issue as frame limiting is an easy cure.But like you said, it really is a good feeling to see Radeons back up there and have the two slug it out.
Fully agreed on power consumption.
I limit BF4 to 80 fps. Keeps my cards under 70c load.
Im not worried about power comsumption.
If I was Id have 2 gtx 960 or R9 285s.
I have no preference over nvidia or amd except for business models.
I prefer AMD there. Hardware wise, its about the same for both.
I do love seeing that 280x is 9 frames from the 780ti. Thats impressive.
This game does look like its runs well though for both sides.
I wanna try it on all 3 of my rigs.
290x xfire in one,
R9 280 in 2nd and
GTX 670 4gb in the 3rd.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 06:30 PM
Was eagerly waiting for this perf review. Great work as usual Boss!
Was eagerly waiting for this perf review. Great work as usual Boss!
Deasnutz
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 07:04 PM
Game runs better in the previous driver to 362.00. Who would have thought.
Game runs better in the previous driver to 362.00. Who would have thought.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 08:27 PM
Sli does not work great with the latest driver. Last beta is faster in Farcry Primal LOOOOL!
That IS epic fail...
Sli does not work great with the latest driver. Last beta is faster in Farcry Primal LOOOOL!
That IS epic fail...
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 09:15 PM
the gameworks features which fc4 had are not in this yet maybe they patch them in at a later date make it more taxing from what ive seen on youtube it runs pretty well the vram is sensible ubisoft seem to have played it safe this time 15gb download is nice aswell , i presume you need uplay i wish they would use steam only and drop uplay, in videos ive seen msi afterburner osd shows cpu core 2 at 100% ive seen that in assasin creed games i suppose they fix it in a patch
the gameworks features which fc4 had are not in this yet maybe they patch them in at a later date make it more taxing from what ive seen on youtube it runs pretty well the vram is sensible ubisoft seem to have played it safe this time 15gb download is nice aswell , i presume you need uplay i wish they would use steam only and drop uplay, in videos ive seen msi afterburner osd shows cpu core 2 at 100% ive seen that in assasin creed games i suppose they fix it in a patch
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 09:20 PM
Rather odd choices of clothing.
Rather odd choices of clothing.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 09:26 PM
a 290 beating a 780ti at 1080p i remeber when the 780ti came out it was about 20-30 fps faster than a 290 lols how things change
a 290 beating a 780ti at 1080p i remeber when the 780ti came out it was about 20-30 fps faster than a 290 lols how things change
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 09:29 PM
290/970 looks be the cards to have. Obviously no gameworks.
I believe 290s are the cheaper of the two, so for ~$200, maxed 1080P performance.
290/970 looks be the cards to have. Obviously no gameworks.
I believe 290s are the cheaper of the two, so for ~$200, maxed 1080P performance.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 09:39 PM
Amazing performance for the 290. Not far off from 980. Hawaii has aged very well. Maxwell slipping and may go way of kepler if this keeps up. I doubt I'll stick with Nvidia next time around.
Amazing performance for the 290. Not far off from 980. Hawaii has aged very well. Maxwell slipping and may go way of kepler if this keeps up. I doubt I'll stick with Nvidia next time around.
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 10:24 PM
Is nVidia actively gimping their cards or just not optimizing drivers for Kepler anymore, Or did Ubi not optimise nVidia at all? The 780 Ti is a joke!
Just look at this, Far Cry 4 uses same engine than primal, and in that game it outperforms the 290X Tri-X by almost 20FPS
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Far-Cry-4-Spiel-23145/Specials/Technik-Test-Benchmark-1143026/
But in primal its 1 fps slower, because the 290X actually GAINS FPS in a more DEMANDING game,
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Far-Cry-Primal-Spiel-56751/Specials/Benchmark-Test-1187476/
So 3 years later, in a more demanding game, the 290X gains +-4FPS on the same engine, and test where done by the same site and the 780Ti loses 20FPS!!!
What the hell is going on??? Is nVidia that reliant on their drivers that as soon as they stop optimising your card's performance tanks :/
I have a 980Ti and I guess going on this trend it will be obsolete this time next year
Is nVidia actively gimping their cards or just not optimizing drivers for Kepler anymore, Or did Ubi not optimise nVidia at all? The 780 Ti is a joke!
Just look at this, Far Cry 4 uses same engine than primal, and in that game it outperforms the 290X Tri-X by almost 20FPS
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Far-Cry-4-Spiel-23145/Specials/Technik-Test-Benchmark-1143026/
But in primal its 1 fps slower, because the 290X actually GAINS FPS in a more DEMANDING game,
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Far-Cry-Primal-Spiel-56751/Specials/Benchmark-Test-1187476/
So 3 years later, in a more demanding game, the 290X gains +-4FPS on the same engine, and test where done by the same site and the 780Ti loses 20FPS!!!
What the hell is going on??? Is nVidia that reliant on their drivers that as soon as they stop optimising your card's performance tanks :/
I have a 980Ti and I guess going on this trend it will be obsolete this time next year
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 10:26 PM
Nice benchies HH!
Nice benchies HH!
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Posted on: 03/01/2016 10:40 PM
What the hell is going on??? Is nVidia that reliant on their drivers that as soon as they stop optimising your card's performance tanks :/
Yes, it's the reason we nVIDIA users enjoyed better performance in most games for the long past while. Now, it's just REALLY showing.
And with AMD's improvements with CPU overhead, the gap will only keep closing between Hawaii and Kepler. It's pretty obvious Maxwell's fate is sealed, but the cards won't be widely used by the time some heavy use of DX12 features emerge anyway.
What the hell is going on??? Is nVidia that reliant on their drivers that as soon as they stop optimising your card's performance tanks :/
Yes, it's the reason we nVIDIA users enjoyed better performance in most games for the long past while. Now, it's just REALLY showing.
And with AMD's improvements with CPU overhead, the gap will only keep closing between Hawaii and Kepler. It's pretty obvious Maxwell's fate is sealed, but the cards won't be widely used by the time some heavy use of DX12 features emerge anyway.
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Posted on: 03/02/2016 12:22 AM
Yep.
And i expect the same will happen with the FuryX and the 980ti in the near future.
a 290 beating a 780ti at 1080p i remeber when the 780ti came out it was about 20-30 fps faster than a 290 lols how things change
Yep.
And i expect the same will happen with the FuryX and the 980ti in the near future.
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Posted on: 03/02/2016 12:40 AM
I wonder if they made any upgrades to the Dunia engine, or if everything is identical like Blood Dragon was to Far Cry 3.
I wonder if they made any upgrades to the Dunia engine, or if everything is identical like Blood Dragon was to Far Cry 3.
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Posted on: 03/02/2016 01:07 AM
Yes, it's the reason we nVIDIA users enjoyed better performance in most games for the long past while. Now, it's just REALLY showing.
And with AMD's improvements with CPU overhead, the gap will only keep closing between Hawaii and Kepler. It's pretty obvious Maxwell's fate is sealed, but the cards won't be widely used by the time some heavy use of DX12 features emerge anyway.
They are clearly doing something for sure.Kepler is keep falling more and more behind. One famous guy from YT club4ghz is complaining that he has lost 10 fps in far cry primal with latest game ready driver compared to previous driver on his single 780 ti
this is club4ghz words
Just installed game ready drivers and 10 Fps less than i had yesterday with old drivers in benchmark. Gimpworks at it's best.
I am also playing Far Cry Primal on my old pc with single prahistoric gts 450 card at custom settings 1600x900 and its working fine 25-31 fps without recording...i did not test latest driver, i had play it with old icafe 344.47 driver which is best performer on fermi cards for me. It gives me 4-5 fps advantage in almost all games, compared to all other drivers.
You can see my Far Cry Primal gameplay on you tube if you copy this in search Far Cry Primal GTS 450 900p gameplay
so it is possible to play even on antient cards fine.
so i dont know what to say but its fishy that kepler has very poor performance in this game compared to GCN. I would not be surprised that nvidia has started to gimp kepler again, and removed previous improvements.
Yes, it's the reason we nVIDIA users enjoyed better performance in most games for the long past while. Now, it's just REALLY showing.
And with AMD's improvements with CPU overhead, the gap will only keep closing between Hawaii and Kepler. It's pretty obvious Maxwell's fate is sealed, but the cards won't be widely used by the time some heavy use of DX12 features emerge anyway.
They are clearly doing something for sure.Kepler is keep falling more and more behind. One famous guy from YT club4ghz is complaining that he has lost 10 fps in far cry primal with latest game ready driver compared to previous driver on his single 780 ti
this is club4ghz words
Just installed game ready drivers and 10 Fps less than i had yesterday with old drivers in benchmark. Gimpworks at it's best.
I am also playing Far Cry Primal on my old pc with single prahistoric gts 450 card at custom settings 1600x900 and its working fine 25-31 fps without recording...i did not test latest driver, i had play it with old icafe 344.47 driver which is best performer on fermi cards for me. It gives me 4-5 fps advantage in almost all games, compared to all other drivers.
You can see my Far Cry Primal gameplay on you tube if you copy this in search Far Cry Primal GTS 450 900p gameplay
so it is possible to play even on antient cards fine.
so i dont know what to say but its fishy that kepler has very poor performance in this game compared to GCN. I would not be surprised that nvidia has started to gimp kepler again, and removed previous improvements.
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Posted on: 03/02/2016 01:15 AM
FC: P doesnt use "Gimpworks" haha
FC: P doesnt use "Gimpworks" haha
Artefact
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Posted on: 03/02/2016 01:24 AM
I know that FC Primal does not have gameworks effects,but kepler is still falling behind,its suspicious somehow...or game dunia engine is modified and heavily favors maxwell only, or drivers. some people are saying that previos driver performs better compared to FCP game ready driver,club4ghz is saying on you tube that he have 10 fps more with it on his 780 ti
nvidia you are very shady
FC: P doesnt use "Gimpworks" haha
I know that FC Primal does not have gameworks effects,but kepler is still falling behind,its suspicious somehow...or game dunia engine is modified and heavily favors maxwell only, or drivers. some people are saying that previos driver performs better compared to FCP game ready driver,club4ghz is saying on you tube that he have 10 fps more with it on his 780 ti
nvidia you are very shady
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Fury X is onboard, great results for each brand, hopping to see maybe a dx12 patch.