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Endgame XM1 gaming mouse review
Guru3D Rig of the Month - December 2019
Endgame XM1 gaming mouse review
Posted by: on: 12/30/2019 10:49 AM [
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In this article, we review the Endgame XM1 mouse, which debuted on the market in July 2019. The German manufacturer, Endgame Gear, isn't a household name in PC peripherals yet, having debuted on the market only recently (in 2019), with this particular model. The product is a wired gaming mouse, without any RGB lighting. The most important features are the weight and the sensor. The device looks very classic at first glance. The weight is 70g including the cable. The sensor is a Pixart PMW-3389 with 16,000 DPI, and the polling rate is 1000hz (1ms). Yes, that’s absurd and not necessarily useful, but still.
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entr0cks
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 05:10 PM
Even has a ferrite choke.
Even has a ferrite choke.
Digilator
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 05:33 PM
As long as it suits you, the DeathAdder Elite is a bargain currently - $24.99
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Elite-Mechanical-Ergonomic/dp/B01LXC1QL0/ref=sr-1-3?keywords=razer+deathadder&qid=1577723413&sr=8-3
As long as it suits you, the DeathAdder Elite is a bargain currently - $24.99
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Elite-Mechanical-Ergonomic/dp/B01LXC1QL0/ref=sr-1-3?keywords=razer+deathadder&qid=1577723413&sr=8-3
insp1re2600
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 08:45 PM
Decent specs but looks like it would feel like using a soap dish as a mouse.
Decent specs but looks like it would feel like using a soap dish as a mouse.
metagamer
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 09:05 PM
Great sensor. All down to shape and buttons from here on. I bought a G502 Hero for £52. FOR ME, much better mouse. Hate ambidextrous mice. But I'm sure many like them, like I said, all down to PP. Compared to some other mice on the market, if you like the shape, this is actually not too bad.
I just wish we had PBT mice on the market. There is some, I think, but apparently PBT is difficult to work with and would make the mouse extremely expensive. That being said, if Logitech came out with a PBT version of the G502 for £200, I'd buy one right away.
Great sensor. All down to shape and buttons from here on. I bought a G502 Hero for £52. FOR ME, much better mouse. Hate ambidextrous mice. But I'm sure many like them, like I said, all down to PP. Compared to some other mice on the market, if you like the shape, this is actually not too bad.
I just wish we had PBT mice on the market. There is some, I think, but apparently PBT is difficult to work with and would make the mouse extremely expensive. That being said, if Logitech came out with a PBT version of the G502 for £200, I'd buy one right away.
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 10:15 PM
Great sensor. All down to shape and buttons from here on. I bought a G502 Hero for £52. FOR ME, much better mouse. Hate ambidextrous mice. But I'm sure many like them, like I said, all down to PP. Compared to some other mice on the market, if you like the shape, this is actually not too bad.
I just wish we had PBT mice on the market. There is some, I think, but apparently PBT is difficult to work with and would make the mouse extremely expensive. That being said, if Logitech came out with a PBT version of the G502 for £200, I'd buy one right away.
I don't know much about PBT, but why do you want a mouse made from PBT? What's wrong with the 'normal plastic' that is used on most mice?
Great sensor. All down to shape and buttons from here on. I bought a G502 Hero for £52. FOR ME, much better mouse. Hate ambidextrous mice. But I'm sure many like them, like I said, all down to PP. Compared to some other mice on the market, if you like the shape, this is actually not too bad.
I just wish we had PBT mice on the market. There is some, I think, but apparently PBT is difficult to work with and would make the mouse extremely expensive. That being said, if Logitech came out with a PBT version of the G502 for £200, I'd buy one right away.
I don't know much about PBT, but why do you want a mouse made from PBT? What's wrong with the 'normal plastic' that is used on most mice?
metagamer
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Posted on: 12/30/2019 10:19 PM
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
I don't know much about PBT, but why do you want a mouse made from PBT? What's wrong with the 'normal plastic' that is used on most mice?
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 01:37 AM
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Had my Corsair K70 LUX and DeathAdder Elite since summer of 2017 - both seem fine. Try isopropyl and a clean cloth to clean your stuff. I also try to only play with clean hands.
#notapiggamer
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Had my Corsair K70 LUX and DeathAdder Elite since summer of 2017 - both seem fine. Try isopropyl and a clean cloth to clean your stuff. I also try to only play with clean hands.
#notapiggamer
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 09:55 AM
Had my Corsair K70 LUX and DeathAdder Elite since summer of 2017 - both seem fine. Try isopropyl and a clean cloth to clean your stuff. I also try to only play with clean hands.
#notapiggamer
It do has to nothing to do with cleaning at all.
Had my Corsair K70 LUX and DeathAdder Elite since summer of 2017 - both seem fine. Try isopropyl and a clean cloth to clean your stuff. I also try to only play with clean hands.
#notapiggamer
It do has to nothing to do with cleaning at all.
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 02:11 PM
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Yep, my Logitech G Pro has got a shiny spot where I left click, and also where I hold it on the sides - so yep they do wear. It doesn't seem to have bothered me, but I see your point about PBT.
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Yep, my Logitech G Pro has got a shiny spot where I left click, and also where I hold it on the sides - so yep they do wear. It doesn't seem to have bothered me, but I see your point about PBT.
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 02:54 PM
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Some year after I got myself Kone XTD Optical, it started to show wear on surface.
I took it apart, removed their surface and did my own paint job. It serves for quite a few years. And since I finished with transparent coating, wear on that is minimal. (Metallic paint is bit darker now on places where I place fingers.)
I can redo it any time, but I like current look.
PBT stays true to colour and texture. ABS develops a shine. This is why PBT keycaps on keyboards are far superior. My Ducky Shine 6 is over 2 years old but the keycaps feel as good as new. ABS keycaps would be shiny and slippery after a couple of months.
Just look at your mouse, unless it's new-ish. Where you press LB and RB, it'll shine. It's not really about looks either, but with ABS you loose that texture that new plastic comes with.
It's not a deal breaker by any means, but god I'd pay good money for a good PBT mouse.
Some year after I got myself Kone XTD Optical, it started to show wear on surface.
I took it apart, removed their surface and did my own paint job. It serves for quite a few years. And since I finished with transparent coating, wear on that is minimal. (Metallic paint is bit darker now on places where I place fingers.)
I can redo it any time, but I like current look.
Digilator
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 03:37 PM
Maybe I just received ultra-durable editions?
It do has to nothing to do with cleaning at all.
Maybe I just received ultra-durable editions?
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Posted on: 12/31/2019 04:07 PM
it was ~ 5 euros tops.
it was ~ 5 euros tops.
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Posted on: 01/01/2020 04:15 PM
Not sure what you find absurd about it. Those numbers (1000hz polling and 16k DPI) are pretty standard.
Not sure what you find absurd about it. Those numbers (1000hz polling and 16k DPI) are pretty standard.
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Posted on: 01/01/2020 06:00 PM
meh was kinda in market or well start looking to new moues seeing my original g502 middle click died right after i bought and replaced padded feet on. so that mouse useless to me now, which leave me with g502 spectrum rgb I got when complained logtiech about my g502 cursor shooting off in random directions, which the spectrum does too.
I looked at this and ended that the moment I saw it dont have 4way middle mouse button that is must for gaming mouses imo and 3 side buttons minimum
meh was kinda in market or well start looking to new moues seeing my original g502 middle click died right after i bought and replaced padded feet on. so that mouse useless to me now, which leave me with g502 spectrum rgb I got when complained logtiech about my g502 cursor shooting off in random directions, which the spectrum does too.
I looked at this and ended that the moment I saw it dont have 4way middle mouse button that is must for gaming mouses imo and 3 side buttons minimum
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Posted on: 01/03/2020 08:31 PM
60 euro for that mouse ? .... With maddening amount of 2 buttons on top, two on side and mwheel irritating pseudo-button.
I wish 3dconnexion went into gaming mice production, as their "cad/cam" line has models with 3 big buttons on top and a wheel between LMB and MMB. Add some sensible left side like say one on rival 500, a few more sensible placed buttons on top - and they would have a good product going.
60 euro for that mouse ? .... With maddening amount of 2 buttons on top, two on side and mwheel irritating pseudo-button.
I wish 3dconnexion went into gaming mice production, as their "cad/cam" line has models with 3 big buttons on top and a wheel between LMB and MMB. Add some sensible left side like say one on rival 500, a few more sensible placed buttons on top - and they would have a good product going.
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Posted on: 01/03/2020 11:48 PM
it was ~ 5 euros tops.
That shape is great though. Lots of people would pay for Logitech to bring this back in modern form (Current G mouse that's supposed to replace it is to V shaped near the bottom).
it was ~ 5 euros tops.
That shape is great though. Lots of people would pay for Logitech to bring this back in modern form (Current G mouse that's supposed to replace it is to V shaped near the bottom).
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Posted on: 01/04/2020 09:23 PM
Its at least 5 buttons short of useful for me.
My G502 Hero has 11 buttons once of which failed but I managed to wrestle it back into action!
Its at least 5 buttons short of useful for me.
My G502 Hero has 11 buttons once of which failed but I managed to wrestle it back into action!
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I like the look and sound of this one - a no nonsense high quality gaming mouse! It's got that awesome sensor, and the quick response switches used for mouse buttons sounds good, and I also like the look of those mouse feet (I can imagine that gliding real smooth), the shape of the mouse would also suit me. I got the Logitech G Pro with PMW3366 sensor though, so I don't need to change it....I would buy this mouse if I needed a new one though.