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Corsair ML Series Magnetic Levitation Fan Review
Posted by: on: 07/13/2016 07:17 AM [
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In this quick test we look at the new ML series fans from Corsair, with the ML short for Magnetic levitation.
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SplashDown
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 03:06 PM
Heck for what they do, 35 dollars for 2 pack of 120's isn't bad at all, and considering how long they should last. A lot of people don't know you can oil the bearing fans for longer life but these new ones are very cool.
Heck for what they do, 35 dollars for 2 pack of 120's isn't bad at all, and considering how long they should last. A lot of people don't know you can oil the bearing fans for longer life but these new ones are very cool.
Kaarme
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 03:27 PM
Oh, right. I failed to notice that "Pack Quantity". It's indeed not bad at all taking that into account.
Heck for what they do, 35 dollars for 2 pack of 120's isn't bad at all, and considering how long they should last. A lot of people don't know you can oil the bearing fans for longer life but these new ones are very cool.
Oh, right. I failed to notice that "Pack Quantity". It's indeed not bad at all taking that into account.
go4brendon
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 03:55 PM
so 16 being airflow quiet whilst 32 being a jumbo jet taking off
we need to be talking 8db to 25 if they want to turn heads.
so 16 being airflow quiet whilst 32 being a jumbo jet taking off
we need to be talking 8db to 25 if they want to turn heads.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:20 PM
8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
so 16 being airflow quiet whilst 32 being a jumbo jet taking off we need to be talking 8db to 25 if they want to turn heads.
we need to be talking 8db to 25 if they want to turn heads.8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
redrumy3
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:25 PM
I wonder why they don't use rgb led for fans I would love to have green or orange or which ever color I feel like using.
I wonder why they don't use rgb led for fans I would love to have green or orange or which ever color I feel like using.
go4brendon
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:45 PM
8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
Not necessarily, the Noctua NF-S12B REDUX 700, Scythe Slip Stream 500, Coolink SWiF2-120 and Noctua NF-S12A ULN all run under 10db at between 500-800 RPM.
8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
Not necessarily, the Noctua NF-S12B REDUX 700, Scythe Slip Stream 500, Coolink SWiF2-120 and Noctua NF-S12A ULN all run under 10db at between 500-800 RPM.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:47 PM
You can't alter physics. Air has mass therefore it makes noise when moved. 8db is pretty much unobtainable.
Not necessarily, the Noctua NF-S12B REDUX 700, Scythe Slip Stream 500, Coolink SWiF2-120 and Noctua NF-S12A ULN all run under 10db at between 500-800 RPM.
You can't alter physics. Air has mass therefore it makes noise when moved. 8db is pretty much unobtainable.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:50 PM
Would have made them even more expensive, perhaps later on they'll add more SKUs.
They are really good, I just received a batch. Up~to 45~50% RPM (roughly 1300 RPM) they are silent and after that you can hear them. But at a totally silent level, say 1000~1100 RPM the airflow these things create is pretty amazing.
Maxed out they are loud. When you crank them all the way up I swear you can cool a room as I can feel a breeze from one 120mm fan like one and a half meters away.
I wonder why they don't use rgb led for fans I would love to have green or orange or which ever color I feel like using.
Would have made them even more expensive, perhaps later on they'll add more SKUs.
They are really good, I just received a batch. Up~to 45~50% RPM (roughly 1300 RPM) they are silent and after that you can hear them. But at a totally silent level, say 1000~1100 RPM the airflow these things create is pretty amazing.
Maxed out they are loud. When you crank them all the way up I swear you can cool a room as I can feel a breeze from one 120mm fan like one and a half meters away.
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 04:59 PM
Well that should mean they're pretty effective at least.
(And if they're so durable it could be quite a good investment, will be interesting to see how this technique will be received and if more manufacturers will use it.)
Well that should mean they're pretty effective at least.
(And if they're so durable it could be quite a good investment, will be interesting to see how this technique will be received and if more manufacturers will use it.)
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 05:12 PM
Ya I'm gonna have to get a couple of these for my Rad., probably get them when Zen comes out, keep that puppy real cool.
Ya I'm gonna have to get a couple of these for my Rad., probably get them when Zen comes out, keep that puppy real cool.
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 05:29 PM
I liked music.
I liked music.
Matt26LFC
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 05:41 PM
Been wondering about buying some nice expensive fans like these to put on my RX series radiators but the rads are such low fpi I'm not sure its even remotely worth spending that sort of cash for 6 of these to replace my XSPC 1200RPM Xinruilians.
Been wondering about buying some nice expensive fans like these to put on my RX series radiators but the rads are such low fpi I'm not sure its even remotely worth spending that sort of cash for 6 of these to replace my XSPC 1200RPM Xinruilians.
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 05:51 PM
8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
Forgot My Wife 130 dba
8db is pretty much unobtainable.
This is from Hilbert's video card reviews
Jet takeoff (200 feet) 120 dBA
Construction Site 110 dBA Intolerable
Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast studio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible
Forgot My Wife 130 dba
SplashDown
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 06:17 PM
LMAO ... good 1.
Forgot My Wife 130 dba
LMAO ... good 1.
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 06:39 PM
sound good to me good performance but hopefully with the reliability maybe worth the price if there not going to fail like most of the fans ive gone through running 24/7
sound good to me good performance but hopefully with the reliability maybe worth the price if there not going to fail like most of the fans ive gone through running 24/7
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Posted on: 07/11/2016 07:12 PM
Forgot My Wife 130 dba
Bansaku
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 05:27 AM
Appreciate the news, but a little late. My local retailer has had them in for a week.
Appreciate the news, but a little late. My local retailer has had them in for a week.
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 07:02 AM
You mean the Mrs. mjorgenson's?
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Appreciate the news, but a little late. My local retailer has had them in for a week.
You mean the Mrs. mjorgenson's?
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CK the Greek
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 08:05 AM
I wonder if they would make a good job on a H110 compared to stock fans which are too loud under load.. (meaning good or at least similar performance with lower noise..)
I wonder if they would make a good job on a H110 compared to stock fans which are too loud under load.. (meaning good or at least similar performance with lower noise..)
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 09:22 AM
I did not think that fan noise had much to do with bearings (unless they were faulty). Fan noise I think is mostly due to air flow turbulence and fan blade design. Levitation bearings will not solve that. It may make a small difference due to no friction, less vibration, etc, but the main noise is still the blades slicing through the air.
I did not think that fan noise had much to do with bearings (unless they were faulty). Fan noise I think is mostly due to air flow turbulence and fan blade design. Levitation bearings will not solve that. It may make a small difference due to no friction, less vibration, etc, but the main noise is still the blades slicing through the air.
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 11:01 AM
There are 12 cm versions, as per this article, and 14 cm versions available.
There are also two different functional (this does not include colour) variations of the fan in each size. The twin pack fan does not have the rubber corner mounts whereas the single packs do. The single versions are therefore labelled 'Pro' as they are anti-vibration, and cost more. I think if they had the pro in a twin pack at that price they'd be on a real winner. I don't think there would be too many people who would justify the extra cost of the 'Pro' versions.
Corner differences of the twin pack compared to the the pro:
Pro version below!
http://www.corsair.com/~/media/corsair/product-images/cooling/ml-series/ml140-pro/large/ml_140_01.png
The pro version is around 43 percent more expensive for the 12 cm and 45 percent for the pro. Expensive corners! There would be some discount in the twin pack, and extra charge in the pro for having the 'pro' feature corners.
There are 12 cm versions, as per this article, and 14 cm versions available.
There are also two different functional (this does not include colour) variations of the fan in each size. The twin pack fan does not have the rubber corner mounts whereas the single packs do. The single versions are therefore labelled 'Pro' as they are anti-vibration, and cost more. I think if they had the pro in a twin pack at that price they'd be on a real winner. I don't think there would be too many people who would justify the extra cost of the 'Pro' versions.
Corner differences of the twin pack compared to the the pro:
Twin pack version above!
Pro version below!
http://www.corsair.com/~/media/corsair/product-images/cooling/ml-series/ml140-pro/large/ml_140_01.png
The pro version is around 43 percent more expensive for the 12 cm and 45 percent for the pro. Expensive corners! There would be some discount in the twin pack, and extra charge in the pro for having the 'pro' feature corners.
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 11:17 AM
You wouldn't want to put these fans through your whole case due to the price, maybe one or two on a watercooler.
I've got the Corsair SP120 Performance fan for my watercoler, that's a good fan for anyone not wanting to pay the premium for these magnetic levitation fans.
You wouldn't want to put these fans through your whole case due to the price, maybe one or two on a watercooler.
I've got the Corsair SP120 Performance fan for my watercoler, that's a good fan for anyone not wanting to pay the premium for these magnetic levitation fans.
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Posted on: 07/12/2016 11:59 AM
Hi there
Personally I would go rather with Noctua NF-F12 PWM or with BeQuiet PureWings 2 PWM or Noiseblocker fans
I'm using BeQuiet and those fans are very quiet up to 1100RPM,but usually I'm running them at 750RPM
But still Noctua fans are quieter than BeQuiet fans without the questions,yes they're pricier and I've Corsair H100i v2
Hope this helps
Thanks,Jura
I wonder if they would make a good job on a H110 compared to stock fans which are too loud under load.. (meaning good or at least similar performance with lower noise..)
Hi there
Personally I would go rather with Noctua NF-F12 PWM or with BeQuiet PureWings 2 PWM or Noiseblocker fans
I'm using BeQuiet and those fans are very quiet up to 1100RPM,but usually I'm running them at 750RPM
But still Noctua fans are quieter than BeQuiet fans without the questions,yes they're pricier and I've Corsair H100i v2
Hope this helps
Thanks,Jura
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Posted on: 07/13/2016 07:31 AM
I'd assume these should stay away from HDDs, huh?
I'd assume these should stay away from HDDs, huh?
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Those prices are quite steep. I used to think Noctuas are expensive, even if that didn't ever stop me from buying them. But I'm not sure I'd like to pay that much for a fan. But then again, if it really is maglev, it means it should last until the plastic chemically breaks down (or mechanically if you use pneumatic tools to build your PCs)? Decades, that is.