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Corsair iCUE LS100 Monitor Back Lighting Kit Review
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Today we're presenting the Corsair iCUE LS100, a kit that brings some smooth and vibrant lighting to the back of your monitors for an immersive experience, you might even call it a bit of ambi-lighting.
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Silva
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 12:17 PM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Richard Nutman
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 12:24 PM
I quite like the idea of ambient light from the game you're playing to make it more immersive.
Any chance you could show us a video of it when a game is playing Hilbert?
Also, is there any hit to performance? I guess somehow it has to average the screen colour on gpu, or cpu?
I quite like the idea of ambient light from the game you're playing to make it more immersive.
Any chance you could show us a video of it when a game is playing Hilbert?
Also, is there any hit to performance? I guess somehow it has to average the screen colour on gpu, or cpu?
shaga
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 12:33 PM
This is exactly the kind of product I've been waiting and wanting. <3 I have a closed pc case and dislike RGB stuff but ambient lights for immersion? This is how it should be done. I didn't like previous products for the same function.
This is exactly the kind of product I've been waiting and wanting. <3 I have a closed pc case and dislike RGB stuff but ambient lights for immersion? This is how it should be done. I didn't like previous products for the same function.
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 01:19 PM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
That's actually not true at all. There are plenty of brands of coolers and what not that have no RGB. I have one such cooler in my case right now. And it's a high performing one too, an H7.
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
That's actually not true at all. There are plenty of brands of coolers and what not that have no RGB. I have one such cooler in my case right now. And it's a high performing one too, an H7.
semantics
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 03:57 PM
I've known for years corsair has been diversifying their product line, this is the first time it's hit me that corsair is no longer mainly a computer memory company.
I've known for years corsair has been diversifying their product line, this is the first time it's hit me that corsair is no longer mainly a computer memory company.
insp1re2600
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 04:03 PM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
one line youre saying only idiots buy rgb, next youre saying without rgb its ugly or not good, conflicting?
nothing wrong with the chromax line as an alternative.
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
one line youre saying only idiots buy rgb, next youre saying without rgb its ugly or not good, conflicting?
nothing wrong with the chromax line as an alternative.
nhanphan1990
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 08:07 PM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Do your homework...
Noctua has this called "chromax".
Fractal design makes solid case fans, and they're non RGB. Bequiet is another option. Most RGB fans are not that good actually, save for the corsair ML.
"nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers"
Did I tell you to do your homework before jumping in?
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Do your homework...
Noctua has this called "chromax".
Fractal design makes solid case fans, and they're non RGB. Bequiet is another option. Most RGB fans are not that good actually, save for the corsair ML.
"nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers"
Did I tell you to do your homework before jumping in?
nhanphan1990
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 08:09 PM
The cryorig H7 right? Built one with this cooler for my friend some time ago. I only worked with noctua air cooler before, I was impressed with the build quality and the performance of the h7
That's actually not true at all. There are plenty of brands of coolers and what not that have no RGB. I have one such cooler in my case right now. And it's a high performing one too, an H7.
The cryorig H7 right? Built one with this cooler for my friend some time ago. I only worked with noctua air cooler before, I was impressed with the build quality and the performance of the h7
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Posted on: 11/19/2019 09:01 PM
Imagine the hill you want to die on to insult people and products is the "it's hard to buy fans without colored lights on them" hill
Imagine the hill you want to die on to insult people and products is the "it's hard to buy fans without colored lights on them" hill
reno_skychaser
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 12:04 AM
I mean.... looks nice, but lets discuss a 75% "Seriously?" discount. $120....
You could literally just buy a second monitor and set it up facing the wall for that price and get the same effect.
I mean.... looks nice, but lets discuss a 75% "Seriously?" discount. $120....
You could literally just buy a second monitor and set it up facing the wall for that price and get the same effect.
Alex13
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 08:46 AM
If some of you are like me and like some light behind the monitor to ease your viewing experience at night - just buy a cheap desk lamp
If some of you are like me and like some light behind the monitor to ease your viewing experience at night - just buy a cheap desk lamp
shalafi
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 09:19 AM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
You already got some tips from the other guys, add Phanteks fans to that.
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
You already got some tips from the other guys, add Phanteks fans to that.
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 09:32 AM
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Hey, rgb looks great and it runs faster.
Only idiots keep buying RGB BS.
I want to buy some fans for my new PC case and guess what: other than the ugly noctua poop fans, nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers...
Hey, rgb looks great and it runs faster.
Inquisitor
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 12:49 PM
This looks cool, I already have RGB lighting at the back of my monitor (static colour), which makes a huge difference. Completely agree that it reduces eye fatigue. Turning it off and just using the monitor as is, now feels really weird!
However I'm concerned over having to use iCUE, I really don't like it, I know the new versions are better but still buggy and I still find it annoying to use.
Also if the CPU is at 100% the frame rate of the RGB affects drops and stutters. I can see it on my H115i CPU Block, fans and my Corsair Keyboard. Not really a problem in everyday gaming mind but still worth mentioning as I do notice it in Gears 5 as that consumes 100% CPU during loading screens
This looks cool, I already have RGB lighting at the back of my monitor (static colour), which makes a huge difference. Completely agree that it reduces eye fatigue. Turning it off and just using the monitor as is, now feels really weird!
However I'm concerned over having to use iCUE, I really don't like it, I know the new versions are better but still buggy and I still find it annoying to use.
Also if the CPU is at 100% the frame rate of the RGB affects drops and stutters. I can see it on my H115i CPU Block, fans and my Corsair Keyboard. Not really a problem in everyday gaming mind but still worth mentioning as I do notice it in Gears 5 as that consumes 100% CPU during loading screens
insp1re2600
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 01:00 PM
I'm suprised they are pushing the iCUE name on their products with the shitshow that it is if you google that name.
Only last night i wondered why my GPU was up at 90 degrees, to see in the case that icue hadnt initiated the fans on my GPU AIO and had left them off.
Fantastic Software.
I'm suprised they are pushing the iCUE name on their products with the shitshow that it is if you google that name.
Only last night i wondered why my GPU was up at 90 degrees, to see in the case that icue hadnt initiated the fans on my GPU AIO and had left them off.
Fantastic Software.
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 01:08 PM
I'm suprised they are pushing the iCUE name on their products with the shitshow that it is if you google that name.
Only last night i wondered why my GPU was up at 90 degrees, to see in the case that icue hadnt initiated the fans on my GPU AIO and had left them off.
Fantastic Software.
Exact same problems I had, even with the latest versions. I also had issues where fans would spin up normally as heat ramped up but then would randomly just drop speed back to idle or off and stay there while the CPU was at 100% and just got hotter and hotter.
Absolute junk software, it always has been, even worse before they re-branded it
I'm suprised they are pushing the iCUE name on their products with the shitshow that it is if you google that name.
Only last night i wondered why my GPU was up at 90 degrees, to see in the case that icue hadnt initiated the fans on my GPU AIO and had left them off.
Fantastic Software.
Exact same problems I had, even with the latest versions. I also had issues where fans would spin up normally as heat ramped up but then would randomly just drop speed back to idle or off and stay there while the CPU was at 100% and just got hotter and hotter.
Absolute junk software, it always has been, even worse before they re-branded it
Silva
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 03:35 PM
That's actually not true at all. There are plenty of brands of coolers and what not that have no RGB. I have one such cooler in my case right now. And it's a high performing one too, an H7.
I meant case fans, coolers there are still plenty with decent performance and good fans.
I can't find fans I like, either performance and reviews are bad or the mess of cables put me off.
one line youre saying only idiots buy rgb, next youre saying without rgb its ugly or not good, conflicting?
nothing wrong with the chromax line as an alternative.
What I meant to say is that good performing models, or at least what I've been looking for, all come with a cluster of cables that I can't even plug anywhere on my motherboard. The companies have invested on RGB and controllers while I just want a simple good looking and performing fan. I'm sorry if I can't make myself clear.
Do your homework...
Noctua has this called "chromax".
Fractal design makes solid case fans, and they're non RGB. Bequiet is another option. Most RGB fans are not that good actually, save for the corsair ML.
"nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers"
Did I tell you to do your homework before jumping in?
"Most RGB fans are not that good actually" Exactly my point: we are paying for RGB and a crap fan.
I am looking for months, it gets tiring and frustrating as all I find are RGB with no input to my MB lol. I just want decent fans.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into it. I also have to see if they're available on my country.
Hey, rgb looks great and it runs faster. :p
I hear you brother!
That's actually not true at all. There are plenty of brands of coolers and what not that have no RGB. I have one such cooler in my case right now. And it's a high performing one too, an H7.
I meant case fans, coolers there are still plenty with decent performance and good fans.
I can't find fans I like, either performance and reviews are bad or the mess of cables put me off.
one line youre saying only idiots buy rgb, next youre saying without rgb its ugly or not good, conflicting?
nothing wrong with the chromax line as an alternative.
What I meant to say is that good performing models, or at least what I've been looking for, all come with a cluster of cables that I can't even plug anywhere on my motherboard. The companies have invested on RGB and controllers while I just want a simple good looking and performing fan. I'm sorry if I can't make myself clear.
Do your homework...
Noctua has this called "chromax".
Fractal design makes solid case fans, and they're non RGB. Bequiet is another option. Most RGB fans are not that good actually, save for the corsair ML.
"nothing good exists without RGB and the mess of controllers"
Did I tell you to do your homework before jumping in?
"Most RGB fans are not that good actually" Exactly my point: we are paying for RGB and a crap fan.
I am looking for months, it gets tiring and frustrating as all I find are RGB with no input to my MB lol. I just want decent fans.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into it. I also have to see if they're available on my country.
Hey, rgb looks great and it runs faster. :p
I hear you brother!
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Posted on: 11/20/2019 04:34 PM
@Silva If you haven't run into Noctua, be quiet, or Phanteks when, "looking for good case fans" I seriously doubt you have even looked at all. Just admit you came into this thread just to talk $hit about RGB (a feature that literally gives the end user choices).
You know if you don't like RGB just don't buy it. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS WITHOUT IT.
@Silva If you haven't run into Noctua, be quiet, or Phanteks when, "looking for good case fans" I seriously doubt you have even looked at all. Just admit you came into this thread just to talk $hit about RGB (a feature that literally gives the end user choices).
You know if you don't like RGB just don't buy it. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS WITHOUT IT.
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Posted on: 11/21/2019 12:23 AM
@Silva If you haven't run into Noctua, be quiet, or Phanteks when, "looking for good case fans" I seriously doubt you have even looked at all. Just admit you came into this thread just to talk $hit about RGB (a feature that literally gives the end user choices).
You know if you don't like RGB just don't buy it. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS WITHOUT IT.
I did exactly that with my RAM: bought the exact same kit without RGB and saved 15€.
I'm all in for customization options, if done right, and quality assured.
Problem is that neither is achieved, and the consumer is left with allot of messy options to chose from, no standard and a big headache.
Ya, I hate this RGB trend, it's stupid and it will probably die in 10 years when a new thing is invented (smells? taste? cheap blowjob machine?)
@Silva If you haven't run into Noctua, be quiet, or Phanteks when, "looking for good case fans" I seriously doubt you have even looked at all. Just admit you came into this thread just to talk $hit about RGB (a feature that literally gives the end user choices).
You know if you don't like RGB just don't buy it. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS WITHOUT IT.
I did exactly that with my RAM: bought the exact same kit without RGB and saved 15€.
I'm all in for customization options, if done right, and quality assured.
Problem is that neither is achieved, and the consumer is left with allot of messy options to chose from, no standard and a big headache.
Ya, I hate this RGB trend, it's stupid and it will probably die in 10 years when a new thing is invented (smells? taste? cheap blowjob machine?)
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Posted on: 11/21/2019 08:27 AM
Cant really blame them if RGB is whats selling. Certainly many people think its pointless and dumb but they wouldnt keep making this stuff if people werent buying it
Cant really blame them if RGB is whats selling. Certainly many people think its pointless and dumb but they wouldnt keep making this stuff if people werent buying it
Richard Nutman
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Posted on: 11/21/2019 12:28 PM
I mean.... looks nice, but lets discuss a 75% "Seriously?" discount. $120....
You could literally just buy a second monitor and set it up facing the wall for that price and get the same effect.
That's actually a damn good idea!
This only updates at 25hz, so a 2nd monitor would give a much faster updating light projection. There's a video of this Corsair on youtube, and during explosions it misses the flash.
Also there would be no cpu/gpu overhead just using a cheap monitor.
Can you have a cheap 60hz 2nd monitor duplicating a 120hz freesync display?
I mean.... looks nice, but lets discuss a 75% "Seriously?" discount. $120....
You could literally just buy a second monitor and set it up facing the wall for that price and get the same effect.
That's actually a damn good idea!
This only updates at 25hz, so a 2nd monitor would give a much faster updating light projection. There's a video of this Corsair on youtube, and during explosions it misses the flash.
Also there would be no cpu/gpu overhead just using a cheap monitor.
Can you have a cheap 60hz 2nd monitor duplicating a 120hz freesync display?
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Posted on: 11/21/2019 05:34 PM
Has anyone compared this to the Hue 2 Ambient system from NZXT? Just saying, since it's a direct competitor. Everyone hating on iCue software, well I run a Hue+ for basic lighting inside my case, and CAM software seems to screw up itself daily. Add to that every time they update the software it breaks more stuff than it fixes. Seems like a decent idea, just to have some ambient lighting that adjusts with the video feed, but it should be half the price of these kits. At this point I wouldn't know which one to go for. NXZT's kit is $20 cheaper here in the US, but both software ecosystems are pretty bad. The only thing I've got running iCue is my H100i GTX V2 cooler, and it's just a tiny light on the pump. Nothing big and distracting, no RGB fans going rainbow. It almost makes sense to go with Hue 2 Ambient because I already have NZXT lighting, but my controller is the original Hue+ and I don't think it works together with the Hue2. Maybe it does. At this point it makes more sense to just buy a couple strips and set them up as a solid background light. Or, like somebody said, use a desk lamp LOL.
Has anyone compared this to the Hue 2 Ambient system from NZXT? Just saying, since it's a direct competitor. Everyone hating on iCue software, well I run a Hue+ for basic lighting inside my case, and CAM software seems to screw up itself daily. Add to that every time they update the software it breaks more stuff than it fixes. Seems like a decent idea, just to have some ambient lighting that adjusts with the video feed, but it should be half the price of these kits. At this point I wouldn't know which one to go for. NXZT's kit is $20 cheaper here in the US, but both software ecosystems are pretty bad. The only thing I've got running iCue is my H100i GTX V2 cooler, and it's just a tiny light on the pump. Nothing big and distracting, no RGB fans going rainbow. It almost makes sense to go with Hue 2 Ambient because I already have NZXT lighting, but my controller is the original Hue+ and I don't think it works together with the Hue2. Maybe it does. At this point it makes more sense to just buy a couple strips and set them up as a solid background light. Or, like somebody said, use a desk lamp LOL.
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Posted on: 11/24/2019 04:23 AM
- I did not expect was a review of that product on guru3d, and a positive one at that
- a review that answered the only question I had about that so thanks Hilbert, still no1 for reviews
question was "does the color-monitor sync feature really work ?"
@rburks : icue isn't that buggy it has two main problems, one you can't really avoid : cpu usage goes up and quickly makes your computer unable to idle (10% usage) as you add more rgb/controllers/peripherals the other you can : avoid upgrading the main software they very often break stuff, you should not upgrade icue before making a backup of your os (clone your system) it goes faster restoring your entire C: from a fast USB 3.1 drive (like the Corsair GTX which can do 400Mb/s) than deal with the mess once icue broke itself (corsair rgb memory support is the big problem if you don't have it you should be ok)
iCue has absolutely zero competition in term of rgb ecosystem, concurrent software goes from "pre-alpha" to "beta" at best while iCue is a work in progress yes but heavily advanced software
what you are asking from HUE you can do and much more with icue, I have a keybind set, with it I change "profiles" preset that I had to make, with several colors/effects/fan speed/even headphones settings all I have to do is press one key and it change everything you can even link it to an executable and have icue automatically change to a specific profile or shut down all RGB and put all the fans on slow or even turn them off invidividually (to watch a movie for example) but since you have to create 1 profile for each exe (last time I checked) I didn't bother I just change it with my keybind which switches to the next profile
I currently have
- rainbow
- fireplace like fire effects (with multi-layered rgb fx for some parts)
- red/dark settings and slightly faster fans for hot gpu gaming (like borderlands 3)
- maxed fans benchmark mode with specific fans linked to gpu and others to cpu temp
- white which can double has a desk lamp
- black/rgb off
you can copy profiles and just tweak the color or settings easily and switching is almost instant i can spam the key to skip 2-3 modes no problem
rgb with many differents brands is awful I had that and dismantled the PC after a few months to go "dark" again, I then rebuilt it but this time only with corsair stuff so I can control everything in one app, it's the way to go
- I did not expect was a review of that product on guru3d, and a positive one at that
- a review that answered the only question I had about that so thanks Hilbert, still no1 for reviews
question was "does the color-monitor sync feature really work ?"@rburks : icue isn't that buggy it has two main problems, one you can't really avoid : cpu usage goes up and quickly makes your computer unable to idle (10% usage) as you add more rgb/controllers/peripherals the other you can : avoid upgrading the main software they very often break stuff, you should not upgrade icue before making a backup of your os (clone your system) it goes faster restoring your entire C: from a fast USB 3.1 drive (like the Corsair GTX which can do 400Mb/s) than deal with the mess once icue broke itself (corsair rgb memory support is the big problem if you don't have it you should be ok)
iCue has absolutely zero competition in term of rgb ecosystem, concurrent software goes from "pre-alpha" to "beta" at best while iCue is a work in progress yes but heavily advanced software
what you are asking from HUE you can do and much more with icue, I have a keybind set, with it I change "profiles" preset that I had to make, with several colors/effects/fan speed/even headphones settings all I have to do is press one key and it change everything you can even link it to an executable and have icue automatically change to a specific profile or shut down all RGB and put all the fans on slow or even turn them off invidividually (to watch a movie for example) but since you have to create 1 profile for each exe (last time I checked) I didn't bother I just change it with my keybind which switches to the next profile
I currently have
- rainbow
- fireplace like fire effects (with multi-layered rgb fx for some parts)
- red/dark settings and slightly faster fans for hot gpu gaming (like borderlands 3)
- maxed fans benchmark mode with specific fans linked to gpu and others to cpu temp
- white which can double has a desk lamp
- black/rgb off
you can copy profiles and just tweak the color or settings easily and switching is almost instant i can spam the key to skip 2-3 modes no problem
rgb with many differents brands is awful I had that and dismantled the PC after a few months to go "dark" again, I then rebuilt it but this time only with corsair stuff so I can control everything in one app, it's the way to go
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OMG, corsair turning into BS. More crap that won't work in most cases because...iCue or is it iBug.