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We review the ASUS Turbo GeForce RTX 2070, this card arrives less than 24 hours ago, but hey we can bring you a bit of a review. Will the cards that are 499 USD offer enough to make a difference in the market? Well, onwards into the review I say.
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riot83
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:22 PM
Sort of what was expected. Same Timespy score as my old 1080(watercooled) that I gave away.
Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
Sort of what was expected. Same Timespy score as my old 1080(watercooled) that I gave away.
Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
warlord
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:30 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
sverek
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:31 PM
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
AlmondMan
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:35 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
Nah they just have to keep delivering RX 5x0 cards at the 120-200$ pricemark and they'll be golden. nvidia doing a 33% price increase for a 12% performance increase is a bit naff.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
Nah they just have to keep delivering RX 5x0 cards at the 120-200$ pricemark and they'll be golden. nvidia doing a 33% price increase for a 12% performance increase is a bit naff.
vbetts
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:35 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:36 PM
thermopads under backplate ?
thermopads under backplate ?
AlmondMan
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:36 PM
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
It's 599... not 499.
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
It's 599... not 499.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:38 PM
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
It's 599... not 499.
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
warlord
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:40 PM
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
vbetts
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:41 PM
This is not up for debate, any more of this conversation will lead to points.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
This is not up for debate, any more of this conversation will lead to points.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:42 PM
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
AlmondMan
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:44 PM
But we all know that's never going to happen.
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
But we all know that's never going to happen.
sverek
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:45 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
I might missed it, but GTX1080 numbers in these benchmark are stand for GTX1080 NV Founders edition?
You have issues with announced price? What will happen is up to markets supply and demand.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
I might missed it, but GTX1080 numbers in these benchmark are stand for GTX1080 NV Founders edition?
But we all know that's never going to happen.
You have issues with announced price? What will happen is up to markets supply and demand.
vbetts
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:46 PM
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
I mean it's not bad, it's about where performance is for the x70 cards compared to previous generations.
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
I mean it's not bad, it's about where performance is for the x70 cards compared to previous generations.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:46 PM
Performance, the RTX 2070 is not bad, not bad at all. it sits comfortably above the GTX 1080 a Vega 64.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn : Is there set of 1080p/1440p/4K charts where there is average fps of all games to actually see how big/small difference there is?
As of the card, it does not look bad. It looks like very good 1080p card as it drives 120~144 fps there. Only question is street price.
Performance, the RTX 2070 is not bad, not bad at all. it sits comfortably above the GTX 1080 a Vega 64.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn : Is there set of 1080p/1440p/4K charts where there is average fps of all games to actually see how big/small difference there is?
As of the card, it does not look bad. It looks like very good 1080p card as it drives 120~144 fps there. Only question is street price.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:49 PM
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
You can get 1080 for $499, and we do not know yet what the 2070 will be at, as HH mentioned.
As also said, this is a big step up in price from my 970 when I got it. I might wait for the 7nm 3060 next year
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
You can get 1080 for $499, and we do not know yet what the 2070 will be at, as HH mentioned.
As also said, this is a big step up in price from my 970 when I got it. I might wait for the 7nm 3060 next year
Andy Watson
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 03:59 PM
Anadtech seem to have an FE card and techreport nothing!!
What's the story about the cards being sent out?
Anadtech seem to have an FE card and techreport nothing!!
What's the story about the cards being sent out?
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:06 PM
A solid little card all-in-all, and like it says in the review it is almost there in terms of bringing RTX & Turing into any kind of sense! Pricing still off, but not as much as other Turing cards, and was disappointed to see the large price difference between GTX 1070 launch price vs RTX 2070 launch price. A very solid card from MSI though, great looks and fantastic cooling performance with zero noise, really good.
A solid little card all-in-all, and like it says in the review it is almost there in terms of bringing RTX & Turing into any kind of sense! Pricing still off, but not as much as other Turing cards, and was disappointed to see the large price difference between GTX 1070 launch price vs RTX 2070 launch price. A very solid card from MSI though, great looks and fantastic cooling performance with zero noise, really good.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:06 PM
There’s definitely one thing I’m learning from all the RTX card reviews, we need more games built on Vulkan, look at that RTX 2070 go in Wolfenstein, some big improvements there.
There’s definitely one thing I’m learning from all the RTX card reviews, we need more games built on Vulkan, look at that RTX 2070 go in Wolfenstein, some big improvements there.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:20 PM
the 2070 is the only 20xx (to date) card that looks reasonable even though it's 10-15% too expensive.
if someone has already invested in a g-sync monitor this is the way to go if you need a new card. my only real question is what happens to all of that performance when you have a ray tracing battle royale style game (that doesn't look like Pokemon)?
will the fps drop or processing create lag?
obviously at this price way more people will buy this as opposed to the 2080/ti
in any case, this is in no way shape or form a "nail in the coffin" for AMD, this was expected.
AMD is focused on grabbing market share, and that's found up to this price, not above.
as wonderful as "ti" cards are, they are a "Halo" product designed to make the entire line more desirable. and for Nvidia that's been working the last 10 years. AMD was in a far worse position before they released Polaris than they are now. and please remember, AMD is a larger company than Nvidia with fingers in far more pies.
the 2070 is the only 20xx (to date) card that looks reasonable even though it's 10-15% too expensive.
if someone has already invested in a g-sync monitor this is the way to go if you need a new card. my only real question is what happens to all of that performance when you have a ray tracing battle royale style game (that doesn't look like Pokemon)?
will the fps drop or processing create lag?
obviously at this price way more people will buy this as opposed to the 2080/ti
in any case, this is in no way shape or form a "nail in the coffin" for AMD, this was expected.
AMD is focused on grabbing market share, and that's found up to this price, not above.
as wonderful as "ti" cards are, they are a "Halo" product designed to make the entire line more desirable. and for Nvidia that's been working the last 10 years. AMD was in a far worse position before they released Polaris than they are now. and please remember, AMD is a larger company than Nvidia with fingers in far more pies.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:24 PM
So as far as raw performance goes, a 2080 is pretty much just a 1080ti and 2070 is just a 1080.
So as far as raw performance goes, a 2080 is pretty much just a 1080ti and 2070 is just a 1080.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:32 PM
that's what i see.
Nice review.
So as far as raw performance goes, a 2080 is pretty much just a 1080ti and 2070 is just a 1080.
that's what i see.
Nice review.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:33 PM
Something to remember though, this is done first release. Drivers and optimizations have not matured yet for Turing.
So as far as raw performance goes, a 2080 is pretty much just a 1080ti and 2070 is just a 1080.
Something to remember though, this is done first release. Drivers and optimizations have not matured yet for Turing.
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Posted on: 10/16/2018 04:39 PM
I never noticed it but I have almost the same setup used for testing here lol only have the X99 Deluxe MB different
I even have the AX1200i that could have some problem but didn't anymore after a firmware update
ahaha nice !
I never noticed it but I have almost the same setup used for testing here lol only have the X99 Deluxe MB differentI even have the AX1200i that could have some problem but didn't anymore after a firmware update
ahaha nice !
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Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review