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ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Review
Posted by: on: 03/31/2017 01:02 PM [
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We review the final retail board of the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB, and not the engineering samples you have seen reviewed two weeks ago. This GeForce GTX 1080 Ti comes all customized with a brand new cooler and RGB Headers on-board of the card to attach RGB LEDs.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 02:05 PM
At defaults, it's a tiny bit. I doubt very much you will be able to hear it in a closed case as you need to be like 30cm away from the card to be able to hear it.
At defaults, it's a tiny bit. I doubt very much you will be able to hear it in a closed case as you need to be like 30cm away from the card to be able to hear it.
zzzaac
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 02:11 PM
Absolutely hate these "Modes" that lots of GPU's are doing right now
Absolutely hate these "Modes" that lots of GPU's are doing right now
BahamutxD
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 02:19 PM
So its basically the same as the MSI, noise level 1db difference, temperatures 2ºC difference and performance barely an fps or two here and there.
Unless there is a noticiable price difference or stock problems, take the one you like most for its looks, MSI for me although ASUS backplate is badass.
So its basically the same as the MSI, noise level 1db difference, temperatures 2ºC difference and performance barely an fps or two here and there.
Unless there is a noticiable price difference or stock problems, take the one you like most for its looks, MSI for me although ASUS backplate is badass.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 02:38 PM
That was rather shady what ASUS tried to pull there.
That was rather shady what ASUS tried to pull there.
go4brendon
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 03:00 PM
Exciting stuff, personally waiting for a manufacturer to bring out a water cooled version like the seahawk, that should bring even greater o.c. potential.
Exciting stuff, personally waiting for a manufacturer to bring out a water cooled version like the seahawk, that should bring even greater o.c. potential.
buhehe
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 04:04 PM
What was it? I didn't read the whole thing through
That was rather shady what ASUS tried to pull there.
What was it? I didn't read the whole thing through
Loophole35
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 04:24 PM
First page. They sent reviewers a sample with higher clocks than advertised.
What was it? I didn't read the whole thing through
First page. They sent reviewers a sample with higher clocks than advertised.
buhehe
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 04:51 PM
Thanks! That's pretty awful indeed.
Kudos to Guru3D for noticing it and switching to the retail BIOS, although I'd like to see that highlighted - that really puts me off from buying this version.
For those who haven't read it, here's the relevant bit:
As you can see the review boards sent out are locked and loaded in the OC mode for GPU and Memory clocks. I have spotted some reviews from other media using the wrong BIOS/clocks. This OC setting normally you can only access and enable with ASUS GPU Tweak software (you'd need to run that software in the background as each time you restart this software modus needs to re-enable the clocks). After contacting the ASUS marketing team we received and upgraded the card with the retail BIOS
First page. They sent reviewers a sample with higher clocks than advertised.
Thanks! That's pretty awful indeed.
Kudos to Guru3D for noticing it and switching to the retail BIOS, although I'd like to see that highlighted - that really puts me off from buying this version.
For those who haven't read it, here's the relevant bit:
As you can see the review boards sent out are locked and loaded in the OC mode for GPU and Memory clocks. I have spotted some reviews from other media using the wrong BIOS/clocks. This OC setting normally you can only access and enable with ASUS GPU Tweak software (you'd need to run that software in the background as each time you restart this software modus needs to re-enable the clocks). After contacting the ASUS marketing team we received and upgraded the card with the retail BIOS
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 05:03 PM
Didn't MSI and all them do something similar with the 1080? Then you have like the performance bias setting on all the Ryzen motherboards..
I feel like all those practices need to stop.
Didn't MSI and all them do something similar with the 1080? Then you have like the performance bias setting on all the Ryzen motherboards..
I feel like all those practices need to stop.
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 05:06 PM
Didn't MSI and all them do something similar with the 1080? Then you have like the performance bias setting on all the Ryzen motherboards..
I feel like all those practices need to stop.
Yea I wouldn't be surprised if the most of (or even all) the manufacturers do it routinely. We really need reviewers to call this things out and make it clear when it happens.
Didn't MSI and all them do something similar with the 1080? Then you have like the performance bias setting on all the Ryzen motherboards..
I feel like all those practices need to stop.
Yea I wouldn't be surprised if the most of (or even all) the manufacturers do it routinely. We really need reviewers to call this things out and make it clear when it happens.
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 05:50 PM
I expected a bit more, but still beast of a card! Still happy with my 1080 SLI though. Nice review, Hilbert.Thanks.
I expected a bit more, but still beast of a card! Still happy with my 1080 SLI though. Nice review, Hilbert.Thanks.
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Posted on: 03/31/2017 08:18 PM
Beware of fans.
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
Beware of fans.
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
HarryB
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Posted on: 04/01/2017 05:23 AM
Hi Hilbert. When can u make a review of the Gigabyte Aorus 1080Ti Extreme edition? I heard they launch on April 4 at USA. I bet it will hit shelves at Europe a week later on April 11 but reviewers get them earlier.
Hi Hilbert. When can u make a review of the Gigabyte Aorus 1080Ti Extreme edition? I heard they launch on April 4 at USA. I bet it will hit shelves at Europe a week later on April 11 but reviewers get them earlier.
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Posted on: 04/02/2017 09:30 AM
Vrm
Hey Hilbert
I'm wondering if your findings on the VRM temps are universal to all Strix models, it just doesn't make sense. The 1080 Strix last year had the same cooler yet the VRM was comparable if not better to the competition.
This is concerning, like the EVGA SC models last year. Kitguru found a 77.4 degrees hotspot not sure if it's the hottest spot or whatnot but it's not close to 90 degrees. http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/luke-hill/asus-rog-strix-gtx-1080-ti-oc-o11g-11gb-review/16/
Could it be that the Strix OC you got was a bad batch perhaps?
Vrm
Hey Hilbert
I'm wondering if your findings on the VRM temps are universal to all Strix models, it just doesn't make sense. The 1080 Strix last year had the same cooler yet the VRM was comparable if not better to the competition.
This is concerning, like the EVGA SC models last year. Kitguru found a 77.4 degrees hotspot not sure if it's the hottest spot or whatnot but it's not close to 90 degrees. http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/luke-hill/asus-rog-strix-gtx-1080-ti-oc-o11g-11gb-review/16/
Could it be that the Strix OC you got was a bad batch perhaps?
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Posted on: 04/03/2017 04:06 PM
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
I was in the same situation with an MSI card. They wouldn't ship me a fan or point me in the direction of where to purchase one. Then i found one on AliExpress the EXACT same model and branded MSI fans, 13$ incl shipping, took me 10 minutes to replace the fans. Do a search for Asus Strix and you will find your fans on AliExpress.
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
I was in the same situation with an MSI card. They wouldn't ship me a fan or point me in the direction of where to purchase one. Then i found one on AliExpress the EXACT same model and branded MSI fans, 13$ incl shipping, took me 10 minutes to replace the fans. Do a search for Asus Strix and you will find your fans on AliExpress.
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Posted on: 04/04/2017 09:40 AM
So its basically the same as the MSI, noise level 1db difference, temperatures 2ºC difference and performance barely an fps or two here and there.
Unless there is a noticiable price difference or stock problems, take the one you like most for its looks, MSI for me although ASUS backplate is badass.
MSI card seems to have better cooling in VRM area. It's a good 10 degrees lower than Asus according to Hilbert's FLIR images. Too bad I'm getting tired of MSI's red designs, I already have MSI 980Ti which looks almost identical, don't feel like buying another black and red GPU that doesn't match my case color theme.
So its basically the same as the MSI, noise level 1db difference, temperatures 2ºC difference and performance barely an fps or two here and there.
Unless there is a noticiable price difference or stock problems, take the one you like most for its looks, MSI for me although ASUS backplate is badass.
MSI card seems to have better cooling in VRM area. It's a good 10 degrees lower than Asus according to Hilbert's FLIR images. Too bad I'm getting tired of MSI's red designs, I already have MSI 980Ti which looks almost identical, don't feel like buying another black and red GPU that doesn't match my case color theme.
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Posted on: 04/04/2017 12:44 PM
Mmm my strix is quite better than this one, I received mine yesterday. 2088mhz stable and 12.1ghz on memory, time spy score 10850 on graphics. Can't check VRM temps but even on auto fan profile it's not giving artifiacts so I doubt it's running as hot as this one Hilbert tested.
Mmm my strix is quite better than this one, I received mine yesterday. 2088mhz stable and 12.1ghz on memory, time spy score 10850 on graphics. Can't check VRM temps but even on auto fan profile it's not giving artifiacts so I doubt it's running as hot as this one Hilbert tested.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 04/04/2017 12:48 PM
Very possible, tweaking can card a bit per card. But it is also rather important where exactly you measure that Boost clock. E.g. a lighter game can very well go to 2.1 GHz on the card.
Our Turbo clock is tested at 3DMark Firestrike scene 1 looped. Have a peek.
Mmm my strix is quite better than this one, I received mine yesterday. 2088mhz stable and 12.1ghz on memory, time spy score 10850 on graphics. Can't check VRM temps but even on auto fan profile it's not giving artifiacts so I doubt it's running as hot as this one Hilbert tested.
Very possible, tweaking can card a bit per card. But it is also rather important where exactly you measure that Boost clock. E.g. a lighter game can very well go to 2.1 GHz on the card.
Our Turbo clock is tested at 3DMark Firestrike scene 1 looped. Have a peek.
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Posted on: 04/04/2017 12:53 PM
Very possible, tweaking can card a bit per card. But it is also rather important where exactly you measure that Boost clock. E.g. a lighter game can very well go to 2.1 GHz on the card.
Our Turbo clock is tested at 3DMark Firestrike scene 1 looped. Have a peek.
Cool will do a similar loop tonight and have a look when I get home from work, but it's obvious you got screwed on the silicon lottery with that one haha! Your MSI Gaming X was a good sample at least, it seems that the Ti is even more sensitive to high clocks than the 1080 was. Most online techs only got up to 2038mhz stable, some of them 2050mhz. I should count myself lucky with this one.
Very possible, tweaking can card a bit per card. But it is also rather important where exactly you measure that Boost clock. E.g. a lighter game can very well go to 2.1 GHz on the card.
Our Turbo clock is tested at 3DMark Firestrike scene 1 looped. Have a peek.
Cool will do a similar loop tonight and have a look when I get home from work, but it's obvious you got screwed on the silicon lottery with that one haha! Your MSI Gaming X was a good sample at least, it seems that the Ti is even more sensitive to high clocks than the 1080 was. Most online techs only got up to 2038mhz stable, some of them 2050mhz. I should count myself lucky with this one.
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Posted on: 04/06/2017 06:13 PM
Hey Hilb, it seems like this thread is also being linked by the Gigabyte GTX 1080ti review
Hey Hilb, it seems like this thread is also being linked by the Gigabyte GTX 1080ti review
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Posted on: 03/28/2018 12:08 AM
I know that I'm way late to this party, but has no one else noticed that in the GPU-Z shot on page one, the ROPs/TMUs spec is 96/298?? All other 1080 Ti's sport a 88/224 spec. WHAT IS THIS CARD? Even the Titan V wasn't out when this article was written in March 2017!!
I know that I'm way late to this party, but has no one else noticed that in the GPU-Z shot on page one, the ROPs/TMUs spec is 96/298?? All other 1080 Ti's sport a 88/224 spec. WHAT IS THIS CARD? Even the Titan V wasn't out when this article was written in March 2017!!
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Posted on: 03/28/2018 12:14 AM
It could be an error with GPU-Z, it has happened in the past, I remember with my GTX 460 it reported incorrect value for the pixel fillrate until it was fixed with a new version of GPU-Z.
I know that I'm way late to this party, but has no one else noticed that in the GPU-Z shot on page one, the ROPs/TMUs spec is 96/298?? All other 1080 Ti's sport a 88/224 spec. WHAT IS THIS CARD? Even the Titan V wasn't out when this article was written in March 2017!!
It could be an error with GPU-Z, it has happened in the past, I remember with my GTX 460 it reported incorrect value for the pixel fillrate until it was fixed with a new version of GPU-Z.
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Posted on: 03/28/2018 12:53 AM
Beware of fans.
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
Hello this is not true, you can replace the fans cheaply and easily. Without having to disassemble the card.
The fans are also easily purchaseable using the corresponding model # or the amazon links in the video description >>>
Beware of fans.
ASUS has an agreement to make completely custom fans that do not have regular mounting patterns and use model numbers that are pre-existing with different patterns and voltage.
It is literally impossible to get replacement fans after your warranty runs out. I have rigged an MSI fan on my ASUS STRIX. ASUS will not supply or sell you a replacement fan and the actual fan manufacturer doesn't sell ASUS's custom fans on the open market. Thus you will not be able to repair your VERY expensive video card correctly with a simple fan replacement without custom modifications.
I am boycotting any product that they produce with their "custom" unreplaceable fans.
Hello this is not true, you can replace the fans cheaply and easily. Without having to disassemble the card.
The fans are also easily purchaseable using the corresponding model # or the amazon links in the video description >>>
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Posted on: 03/28/2018 12:59 AM
That's likely it. But I'm surprised that Hilbert didn't notice this, being that he manually listed the specs in the paragraphs directly above the GPU-Z screenshot. I have the Aorus 1080Ti Xtreme, which comes stock with slightly higher clocks than this Asus, and many of the specs on his screenshot are higher:
VS MINE 
Sorry- I couldn't find a similarly sized image- but look at the whopping difference in both the pixel and texture fillrates!
EDIT: Based on the screenshot and all the missing info (such as die size, transistors, etc) I should have known that GPU-Z was not updated for this card. Sorry to wake an old thread! BTW, my card is still performing flawlessly. So happy I upgraded before the mining craze.
It could be an error with GPU-Z, it has happened in the past, I remember with my GTX 460 it reported incorrect value for the pixel fillrate until it was fixed with a new version of GPU-Z.
That's likely it. But I'm surprised that Hilbert didn't notice this, being that he manually listed the specs in the paragraphs directly above the GPU-Z screenshot. I have the Aorus 1080Ti Xtreme, which comes stock with slightly higher clocks than this Asus, and many of the specs on his screenshot are higher:
Sorry- I couldn't find a similarly sized image- but look at the whopping difference in both the pixel and texture fillrates!
EDIT: Based on the screenshot and all the missing info (such as die size, transistors, etc) I should have known that GPU-Z was not updated for this card. Sorry to wake an old thread! BTW, my card is still performing flawlessly. So happy I upgraded before the mining craze.
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Hi Hilbert,
Does the card produce coil whine only when you overclock it,
or also when you use the default frequencies ?
And can you hear the coil whine with a closed case ?