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ASUS ROG Ryujin and Ryuo AIO kits review
Posted by: on: 12/19/2018 03:09 PM [
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Today, we are reviewing the new Asus ROG-series AIO liquid coolers, the Ryujin and Ryuo. ASUS ROG (Republic of Gamers) is a branding that represents the highest standard from Asus. Ryujin is a legendary Japanese dragon that symbolizes the power of the ocean.
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fry178
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Posted on: 12/24/2018 09:15 AM
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corner? why? cause you told me to?
as you said, if the pump fails, the system shuts down.
and i know if win doesnt boot, that something is wrong, same for most ppl in this forum.
compared to an air cooler i get lower noise, which for me means inaudible (0.08S@800rpm) under full load, which gets me 60*C (3770@4ghz) and wont happen with HS.
nor do i actually care IF it fails, as corsair gives me the money for ANY components i have to replace in case it does (fail), and not even limited to replacement with same, so i could easily use this to upgrade my rig.
at an avg price difference of 10-40$ vs HS, not even that much cheaper.
and in the past 13y not one item failed on any of my liquid systems, no matter if kit/aio or custom, so i have the opposite experience.
as long as asetek is having issues with pumps, i prefer to buy (their coolers) at least from a company that gives me the money to buy new hardware (if it fails),
and so far no brand that does that for air coolers.
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Dazz
corner? why? cause you told me to?
as you said, if the pump fails, the system shuts down.
and i know if win doesnt boot, that something is wrong, same for most ppl in this forum.
compared to an air cooler i get lower noise, which for me means inaudible (0.08S@800rpm) under full load, which gets me 60*C (3770@4ghz) and wont happen with HS.
nor do i actually care IF it fails, as corsair gives me the money for ANY components i have to replace in case it does (fail), and not even limited to replacement with same, so i could easily use this to upgrade my rig.
at an avg price difference of 10-40$ vs HS, not even that much cheaper.
and in the past 13y not one item failed on any of my liquid systems, no matter if kit/aio or custom, so i have the opposite experience.
as long as asetek is having issues with pumps, i prefer to buy (their coolers) at least from a company that gives me the money to buy new hardware (if it fails),
and so far no brand that does that for air coolers.
Akumu
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Posts: 49
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Posts: 49
Posted on: 12/24/2018 12:49 PM
Way overpriced AIO considering its performance. The Noctua fans are nice but come on...
Way overpriced AIO considering its performance. The Noctua fans are nice but come on...
Dazz
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Posts: 907
Senior Member
Posts: 907
Posted on: 12/24/2018 02:11 PM
@
corner? why? cause you told me to?
as you said, if the pump fails, the system shuts down.
and i know if win doesnt boot, that something is wrong, same for most ppl in this forum.
compared to an air cooler i get lower noise, which for me means inaudible (0.08S@800rpm) under full load, which gets me 60*C (3770@4ghz) and wont happen with HS.
nor do i actually care IF it fails, as corsair gives me the money for ANY components i have to replace in case it does (fail), and not even limited to replacement with same, so i could easily use this to upgrade my rig.
at an avg price difference of 10-40$ vs HS, not even that much cheaper.
and in the past 13y not one item failed on any of my liquid systems, no matter if kit/aio or custom, so i have the opposite experience.
as long as asetek is having issues with pumps, i prefer to buy (their coolers) at least from a company that gives me the money to buy new hardware (if it fails),
and so far no brand that does that for air coolers.The likes of the D15 and silver arrow are pretty much equivalent to a 240mm AIO with the same noise and typically within a couple of 2C from one another, although a Silver arrow and DH15 are fricking huge and you have to be careful with cases as i have noticed with a lot of new cases they have a max height of 150mm, while both of these are like 160mm they also add a bit of stress to the motherboard as with the fans attached they are around 1Kg but my Silver arrow cooled a 4790K with 1.38v @ 5GHz to 72C with the fans at 500rpms. about the same on a 1700 @ 4GHz 1.438v which doubles the core and threads. For me atleast if you want to get more over the likes of a DH15 or Silver arrow the only way to do that is with a 360mm rad. However the point is even if one fan fails you still have a redundant fan to still allow it to keep going, but in an AIO there is no redundant pump and once that fails the water is then boiled away as it's not going anywhere. Now i am sure Asetek have fully tested and has some endurance but it is a single point of failure none the less, and although yes in this forum people will know when something fails unfortunately for joe blogs he won't have a clue.
@
Dazz
corner? why? cause you told me to?
as you said, if the pump fails, the system shuts down.
and i know if win doesnt boot, that something is wrong, same for most ppl in this forum.
compared to an air cooler i get lower noise, which for me means inaudible (0.08S@800rpm) under full load, which gets me 60*C (3770@4ghz) and wont happen with HS.
nor do i actually care IF it fails, as corsair gives me the money for ANY components i have to replace in case it does (fail), and not even limited to replacement with same, so i could easily use this to upgrade my rig.
at an avg price difference of 10-40$ vs HS, not even that much cheaper.
and in the past 13y not one item failed on any of my liquid systems, no matter if kit/aio or custom, so i have the opposite experience.
as long as asetek is having issues with pumps, i prefer to buy (their coolers) at least from a company that gives me the money to buy new hardware (if it fails),
and so far no brand that does that for air coolers.The likes of the D15 and silver arrow are pretty much equivalent to a 240mm AIO with the same noise and typically within a couple of 2C from one another, although a Silver arrow and DH15 are fricking huge and you have to be careful with cases as i have noticed with a lot of new cases they have a max height of 150mm, while both of these are like 160mm they also add a bit of stress to the motherboard as with the fans attached they are around 1Kg but my Silver arrow cooled a 4790K with 1.38v @ 5GHz to 72C with the fans at 500rpms. about the same on a 1700 @ 4GHz 1.438v which doubles the core and threads. For me atleast if you want to get more over the likes of a DH15 or Silver arrow the only way to do that is with a 360mm rad. However the point is even if one fan fails you still have a redundant fan to still allow it to keep going, but in an AIO there is no redundant pump and once that fails the water is then boiled away as it's not going anywhere. Now i am sure Asetek have fully tested and has some endurance but it is a single point of failure none the less, and although yes in this forum people will know when something fails unfortunately for joe blogs he won't have a clue.
Dazz
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Posts: 907
Senior Member
Posts: 907
Posted on: 12/24/2018 02:34 PM
Yes it is expensive but so are the Noctua Fans they are like $75 just for 3 fans that adds alot to the cost of the unit, i have seen people keep asking to include Noctua fans for a long time on AIO's... now they have and it comes at a cost... of course.
I see alot of people complain about ROG stuff being expensive, they aren't really but they do throw in alot of extra stuff which increases the cost. E.g A case i am looking at Lian Li PC Case pc-o11wgx (ROG certified) thats £300, now you can get a basic model similar to this Lian Li pc-o11d which is £127 so less than half but is made of steel. However the o11wgx is a aluminium case so it's closet kin is infact the o11wxc which is £243 which still costs less, however the o11wgx also comes with vertical GPU mount which costs a further £79....... so it does come out cheaper than if you bought them separately.
Motherboards they are typically the most expensive too but they have the best and most well optimised BIOS of anything out there they typically have the beefiest VRM's which is why the 1# overclocks out there are always on ROG motherboards, they have the best LN2 support. Now granted most people don't need such features but they are not free to do or develop which adds to the over all cost of the unit. If you are looking at something basic for a good price then look away from ROG stuff they cater towards a different crowd.
Way overpriced AIO considering its performance. The Noctua fans are nice but come on...
Yes it is expensive but so are the Noctua Fans they are like $75 just for 3 fans that adds alot to the cost of the unit, i have seen people keep asking to include Noctua fans for a long time on AIO's... now they have and it comes at a cost... of course.
I see alot of people complain about ROG stuff being expensive, they aren't really but they do throw in alot of extra stuff which increases the cost. E.g A case i am looking at Lian Li PC Case pc-o11wgx (ROG certified) thats £300, now you can get a basic model similar to this Lian Li pc-o11d which is £127 so less than half but is made of steel. However the o11wgx is a aluminium case so it's closet kin is infact the o11wxc which is £243 which still costs less, however the o11wgx also comes with vertical GPU mount which costs a further £79....... so it does come out cheaper than if you bought them separately.
Motherboards they are typically the most expensive too but they have the best and most well optimised BIOS of anything out there they typically have the beefiest VRM's which is why the 1# overclocks out there are always on ROG motherboards, they have the best LN2 support. Now granted most people don't need such features but they are not free to do or develop which adds to the over all cost of the unit. If you are looking at something basic for a good price then look away from ROG stuff they cater towards a different crowd.
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I see thanks.
I have a rather beefy passive cooling on my z87 deluxe too, also has a beefy 16phase vrm, but at times I feel it could be better.. guessing for better system stability at higher cpu Oc e.g. 4.7ghz or even 4.8ghz for that matter.. cant try 4.8ghz on current h90.. it's a bit too much
not sure about its temps though can't monitor that.