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ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 router +AIMesh review
Posted by: on: 07/10/2018 08:06 AM [
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We review the ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 Dual and Triple Band Wi-Fi Router from ASUS, AIMesh ready quad-core processor monster of a router was introduced last year. It offers proper WIFI ranges and performance. However recently these routers have been granted new AIMesh compatibility, meaning you can combine multiple of these puppies to start your own in-house mesh. WIFI everywhere! It's very fast, very sexy and offers incredible performance and range on both LAN and WIFI.
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RonanH
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 10:20 AM
€400 for a wireless router? Go get yourself a couple of UniFi access points and an edge router or USG... If you're going to pay pro prices, get pro gear not this abomination of a device.
€400 for a wireless router? Go get yourself a couple of UniFi access points and an edge router or USG... If you're going to pay pro prices, get pro gear not this abomination of a device.
Ricepudding
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 10:26 AM
We review the ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 Dual and Triple Band Wi-Fi Router from ASUS, AIMesh ready quad-core processor monster of a router was introduced last year. It offers proper WIFI ranges and perform...
Review: ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 router (+AIMesh)
HH, out of curiosity what do you think is better, getting one of these big strong routers or getting Mesh wifi or powerline adapaters to cover dead house areas
We review the ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 Dual and Triple Band Wi-Fi Router from ASUS, AIMesh ready quad-core processor monster of a router was introduced last year. It offers proper WIFI ranges and perform...
Review: ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AC5300 router (+AIMesh)
HH, out of curiosity what do you think is better, getting one of these big strong routers or getting Mesh wifi or powerline adapaters to cover dead house areas
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 10:50 AM
There's no clear-cut answer to it. That depends very much on your house and neighborhood WIFI spots really. With a normal sized house and router, you're not going to need mesh/repeaters. A mesh or repeater or extra access point is handy for sure in places where you run out of signal. I cannot really justify this much money on a router, however, it did fill every spot in my house with WIFI and there are roughly 30 to 40 WIFI SSID points in my house that I can scan (neighbors etc) as I live in the city.
I am not a fan of powerline adapters, they consume quite a bit of energy, are prone to disturbances and are very dependant on your electric wiring. If you have to run them over a different group, perf drops so fast. However, they are very handy to use in places where you need a bit of internet.
Honestly, the best way is to run an ethernet wire to say your attic and create an access point. If you can't my second suggestion would be a mesh or repeater setup.
HH, out of curiosity what do you think is better, getting one of these big strong routers or getting Mesh wifi or powerline adapaters to cover dead house areas
There's no clear-cut answer to it. That depends very much on your house and neighborhood WIFI spots really. With a normal sized house and router, you're not going to need mesh/repeaters. A mesh or repeater or extra access point is handy for sure in places where you run out of signal. I cannot really justify this much money on a router, however, it did fill every spot in my house with WIFI and there are roughly 30 to 40 WIFI SSID points in my house that I can scan (neighbors etc) as I live in the city.
I am not a fan of powerline adapters, they consume quite a bit of energy, are prone to disturbances and are very dependant on your electric wiring. If you have to run them over a different group, perf drops so fast. However, they are very handy to use in places where you need a bit of internet.
Honestly, the best way is to run an ethernet wire to say your attic and create an access point. If you can't my second suggestion would be a mesh or repeater setup.
xrodney
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 11:16 AM
Same here, at this price pont range its way better to get dedicated enterprise level components from Ubiquity.
Unifi AP + Edge router + HP passive mangeable switch.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
fully agree wit you there, powerline adapters are
- unreliable,
- expensive (at least for gigabit speeds)
- do not work over different phases (in my case 3-phase home electricity distibution, each room different phase)
- do not work well or at all over UPS, power line conditioner, surge protection or filter.
- vulnerable to security attacks from any point on same power line.
They should be as last resort when nothing else works.
€400 for a wireless router? Go get yourself a couple of UniFi access points and an edge router or USG... If you're going to pay pro prices, get pro gear not this abomination of a device.
Same here, at this price pont range its way better to get dedicated enterprise level components from Ubiquity.
Unifi AP + Edge router + HP passive mangeable switch.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
fully agree wit you there, powerline adapters are
- unreliable,
- expensive (at least for gigabit speeds)
- do not work over different phases (in my case 3-phase home electricity distibution, each room different phase)
- do not work well or at all over UPS, power line conditioner, surge protection or filter.
- vulnerable to security attacks from any point on same power line.
They should be as last resort when nothing else works.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 11:25 AM
At this price, I think it should flip and walk around to ensure everyone has good signal. It looks like bug anyway.
At this price, I think it should flip and walk around to ensure everyone has good signal. It looks like bug anyway.
Ricepudding
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 12:13 PM
I am not a fan of powerline adapters, they consume quite a bit of energy, are prone to disturbances and are very dependant on your electric wiring. If you have to run them over a different group, perf drops so fast. However, they are very handy to use in places where you need a bit of internet.
Honestly, the best way is to run an ethernet wire to say your attic and create an access point. If you can't my second suggestion would be a mesh or repeater setup.
any repeaters/mesh that you could recommend, it's quite a big house i'm moving too with quite a few dead points even just the floor above the router. Sadly cause its private property i cannot run any wires through it so looking for alternatives...or even a router like the nighthawk?
I am not a fan of powerline adapters, they consume quite a bit of energy, are prone to disturbances and are very dependant on your electric wiring. If you have to run them over a different group, perf drops so fast. However, they are very handy to use in places where you need a bit of internet.
Honestly, the best way is to run an ethernet wire to say your attic and create an access point. If you can't my second suggestion would be a mesh or repeater setup.
any repeaters/mesh that you could recommend, it's quite a big house i'm moving too with quite a few dead points even just the floor above the router. Sadly cause its private property i cannot run any wires through it so looking for alternatives...or even a router like the nighthawk?
blurp33
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 12:23 PM
An Asus router without support for Asuswrt-Merlin is a waste for power users and tinkerers.
https://www.snbforums.com/forums/asuswrt-merlin.42/
An Asus router without support for Asuswrt-Merlin is a waste for power users and tinkerers.
https://www.snbforums.com/forums/asuswrt-merlin.42/
ubercake
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 12:45 PM
I currently have an N900 router (WNDR4500 v3) that is on the 2nd story of my house with effective wireless reception all the way to the basement, garage, back deck, front porch, anywhere I expect it to reach. It covers a large area even without a load of antennae hanging off of it in every direction. The router covers everything inside; some outside.
I don't like anything that calls itself a mesh network system for home (unless you live in a mansion or castle it doesn't make sense). They want you to buy multiple units so they nerf the range of each and tell you you need another unit for each floor to have effective coverage.
Also, unless people are consistently doing large file transfers on their home networks requiring Gbps speeds, most people are over-buying network functionality from both the electronics shop and their ISPs. Consider a 1080p stream only requires 6Mbps while a 4K is around 4x that (24Mbps). Gaming and music require far less for each connection.
I currently have an N900 router (WNDR4500 v3) that is on the 2nd story of my house with effective wireless reception all the way to the basement, garage, back deck, front porch, anywhere I expect it to reach. It covers a large area even without a load of antennae hanging off of it in every direction. The router covers everything inside; some outside.
I don't like anything that calls itself a mesh network system for home (unless you live in a mansion or castle it doesn't make sense). They want you to buy multiple units so they nerf the range of each and tell you you need another unit for each floor to have effective coverage.
Also, unless people are consistently doing large file transfers on their home networks requiring Gbps speeds, most people are over-buying network functionality from both the electronics shop and their ISPs. Consider a 1080p stream only requires 6Mbps while a 4K is around 4x that (24Mbps). Gaming and music require far less for each connection.
Denial
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 01:08 PM
€400 for a wireless router? Go get yourself a couple of UniFi access points and an edge router or USG... If you're going to pay pro prices, get pro gear not this abomination of a device.
Same here, at this price pont range its way better to get dedicated enterprise level components from Ubiquity.
Unifi AP + Edge router + HP passive mangeable switch.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
fully agree wit you there, powerline adapters are
- unreliable,
- expensive (at least for gigabit speeds)
- do not work over different phases (in my case 3-phase home electricity distibution, each room different phase)
- do not work well or at all over UPS, power line conditioner, surge protection or filter.
- vulnerable to security attacks from any point on same power line.
They should be as last resort when nothing else works.
I think it's closer than you think - the GT-AC5300 goes for $380 on Amazon currently, in order to get similar WiFi/Port specs with Ubiquiti you'd need a UAP-HD ($287) & ER-8 ($302.61) or USG ($108 + $25 8 Port TP Link switch or something)
The AC5300 has a more user friendly interface/setup procedure for a non-techie and is one unit vs the 3 if you go with the USG. The ubiquiti system is probably more reliable and slightly better performing but overall I think the price point on the ASUS is fair for the general consumer, given the specs. For someone more advanced I'd probably recommend the Ubiquiti. I personally use a pair of nanostations for a long range run from my main house + 2 UAP's for various Wifi around the property although I've been thinking about getting some Unifi Mesh AP's for outside - I've been really happy with their devices and deploy them in commercial environments all the time - but overall the ASUS GT isn't a bad device.
€400 for a wireless router? Go get yourself a couple of UniFi access points and an edge router or USG... If you're going to pay pro prices, get pro gear not this abomination of a device.
Same here, at this price pont range its way better to get dedicated enterprise level components from Ubiquity.
Unifi AP + Edge router + HP passive mangeable switch.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
fully agree wit you there, powerline adapters are
- unreliable,
- expensive (at least for gigabit speeds)
- do not work over different phases (in my case 3-phase home electricity distibution, each room different phase)
- do not work well or at all over UPS, power line conditioner, surge protection or filter.
- vulnerable to security attacks from any point on same power line.
They should be as last resort when nothing else works.
I think it's closer than you think - the GT-AC5300 goes for $380 on Amazon currently, in order to get similar WiFi/Port specs with Ubiquiti you'd need a UAP-HD ($287) & ER-8 ($302.61) or USG ($108 + $25 8 Port TP Link switch or something)
The AC5300 has a more user friendly interface/setup procedure for a non-techie and is one unit vs the 3 if you go with the USG. The ubiquiti system is probably more reliable and slightly better performing but overall I think the price point on the ASUS is fair for the general consumer, given the specs. For someone more advanced I'd probably recommend the Ubiquiti. I personally use a pair of nanostations for a long range run from my main house + 2 UAP's for various Wifi around the property although I've been thinking about getting some Unifi Mesh AP's for outside - I've been really happy with their devices and deploy them in commercial environments all the time - but overall the ASUS GT isn't a bad device.
tunejunky
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 03:50 PM
over-priced and ugly as sin. no doubt it's effective, but having one of these means searching for a hiding place, more of them? no way.
in any case, that "back-to-the-future-Aztec" look is really inappropriate for a router, even for a ROG enthusiast.
it certainly has kept me from buying many fine pieces of Asus kit.
over-priced and ugly as sin. no doubt it's effective, but having one of these means searching for a hiding place, more of them? no way.
in any case, that "back-to-the-future-Aztec" look is really inappropriate for a router, even for a ROG enthusiast.
it certainly has kept me from buying many fine pieces of Asus kit.
lucidus
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 03:53 PM
Frickin headcrab.
Frickin headcrab.
IIllIlllII
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 05:07 PM
Longtime reader, first-time poster. Forgive me if I’ve missed it somewhere else in these articles...When can we expect 10GbE on these WiFi routers? I don’t understand the ridiculous WiFi speeds, and then the skimpy hardline speeds. I just built a 5000 sq ft house and wired it with 12 Cat7a copper lines to all the major areas to future proof it to the best of my ability. MoBo’s are finally starting to get at least 10GbE on-board, but very little advancements in this area with routers. Best deal I can find for my needs so far is Netgear’s XS512EM for around $900.
Longtime reader, first-time poster. Forgive me if I’ve missed it somewhere else in these articles...When can we expect 10GbE on these WiFi routers? I don’t understand the ridiculous WiFi speeds, and then the skimpy hardline speeds. I just built a 5000 sq ft house and wired it with 12 Cat7a copper lines to all the major areas to future proof it to the best of my ability. MoBo’s are finally starting to get at least 10GbE on-board, but very little advancements in this area with routers. Best deal I can find for my needs so far is Netgear’s XS512EM for around $900.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 05:28 PM
It will be a long time before you see 10 GigE embedded into routers as it easily adds a 100 bucks price premium. However, the first ones with support for 2.5 or 5 GigE will be released this year (starting with AX WIFI routers).
It doesn't prevent you from creating a 10 GigE LAN though. I do have some reviews upcoming with a router, repeater and 10 GigE switch from Netgear where I'll perform some testing. Also, the first consumer 10 GigE NAS from ASUSTOR arrived and will be reviewed soon. To get them juices flowing: ...
o_O
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Longtime reader, first-time poster. Forgive me if I’ve missed it somewhere else in these articles...When can we expect 10GbE on these WiFi routers? I don’t understand the ridiculous WiFi speeds, and then the skimpy hardline speeds. I just built a 5000 sq ft house and wired it with 12 Cat7a copper lines to all the major areas to future proof it to the best of my ability. MoBo’s are finally starting to get at least 10GbE on-board, but very little advancements in this area with routers. Best deal I can find for my needs so far is Netgear’s XS512EM for around $900.
It will be a long time before you see 10 GigE embedded into routers as it easily adds a 100 bucks price premium. However, the first ones with support for 2.5 or 5 GigE will be released this year (starting with AX WIFI routers).
It doesn't prevent you from creating a 10 GigE LAN though. I do have some reviews upcoming with a router, repeater and 10 GigE switch from Netgear where I'll perform some testing. Also, the first consumer 10 GigE NAS from ASUSTOR arrived and will be reviewed soon. To get them juices flowing: ...
o_O
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Koniakki
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 06:13 PM
If you own one of these... Do NOT invite Freeman over!
P.S: Hilbert Hagedoorn page 10, second chart image. write/read in the chart image got mixed.
If you own one of these... Do NOT invite Freeman over!
P.S: Hilbert Hagedoorn page 10, second chart image. write/read in the chart image got mixed.
xrodney
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 07:05 PM
I think it's closer than you think - the GT-AC5300 goes for $380 on Amazon currently, in order to get similar WiFi/Port specs with Ubiquiti you'd need a UAP-HD ($287) & ER-8 ($302.61) or USG ($108 + $25 8 Port TP Link switch or something)
The AC5300 has a more user friendly interface/setup procedure for a non-techie and is one unit vs the 3 if you go with the USG. The ubiquiti system is probably more reliable and slightly better performing but overall I think the price point on the ASUS is fair for the general consumer, given the specs. For someone more advanced I'd probably recommend the Ubiquiti. I personally use a pair of nanostations for a long range run from my main house + 2 UAP's for various Wifi around the property although I've been thinking about getting some Unifi Mesh AP's for outside - I've been really happy with their devices and deploy them in commercial environments all the time - but overall the ASUS GT isn't a bad device.
Why would you need UAP-HD plus ER8 ? That combination easily wipe floor with enterprise $5k+ CISCO router with $1.5k CISCO AP.
UniFi® nanoHD with EdgeRouter™ Lite and decent switch like HP 1820 8G cost less, around $360 (179+99+79) and offer more.
I think it's closer than you think - the GT-AC5300 goes for $380 on Amazon currently, in order to get similar WiFi/Port specs with Ubiquiti you'd need a UAP-HD ($287) & ER-8 ($302.61) or USG ($108 + $25 8 Port TP Link switch or something)
The AC5300 has a more user friendly interface/setup procedure for a non-techie and is one unit vs the 3 if you go with the USG. The ubiquiti system is probably more reliable and slightly better performing but overall I think the price point on the ASUS is fair for the general consumer, given the specs. For someone more advanced I'd probably recommend the Ubiquiti. I personally use a pair of nanostations for a long range run from my main house + 2 UAP's for various Wifi around the property although I've been thinking about getting some Unifi Mesh AP's for outside - I've been really happy with their devices and deploy them in commercial environments all the time - but overall the ASUS GT isn't a bad device.
Why would you need UAP-HD plus ER8 ? That combination easily wipe floor with enterprise $5k+ CISCO router with $1.5k CISCO AP.
UniFi® nanoHD with EdgeRouter™ Lite and decent switch like HP 1820 8G cost less, around $360 (179+99+79) and offer more.
alanm
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 07:11 PM
I'll bet someone ends up attacking it with a crowbar.
I'll bet someone ends up attacking it with a crowbar.
Denial
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 07:26 PM
Why would you need UAP-HD plus ER8 ? That combination easily wipe floor with enterprise $5k+ CISCO router with $1.5k CISCO AP.
UniFi® nanoHD with EdgeRouter™ Lite and decent switch like HP 1820 8G cost less, around $360 (179+99+79) and offer more.
Key part is "similar WiFi/Port specs" - honestly the nanoHD would be plenty of bandwidth for most people but the GT outperforms it by quite a bit when all the bands are aggregated. Either way my point isn't x or y is better but that the ASUS isn't a bad deal for the price.
The ER8 was an option - you left out the "or + cheaper stuff" - but again now you have 3 different devices instead of one. Which for some consumers who just want a singular unit in their home, taking up minimal space and not having various cables + PoE stuff everywhere, the ASUS isn't bad for the price. That being said the ASUS looks hideous so there's that.
Why would you need UAP-HD plus ER8 ? That combination easily wipe floor with enterprise $5k+ CISCO router with $1.5k CISCO AP.
UniFi® nanoHD with EdgeRouter™ Lite and decent switch like HP 1820 8G cost less, around $360 (179+99+79) and offer more.
Key part is "similar WiFi/Port specs" - honestly the nanoHD would be plenty of bandwidth for most people but the GT outperforms it by quite a bit when all the bands are aggregated. Either way my point isn't x or y is better but that the ASUS isn't a bad deal for the price.
The ER8 was an option - you left out the "or + cheaper stuff" - but again now you have 3 different devices instead of one. Which for some consumers who just want a singular unit in their home, taking up minimal space and not having various cables + PoE stuff everywhere, the ASUS isn't bad for the price. That being said the ASUS looks hideous so there's that.
0blivious
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Posted on: 07/10/2018 09:41 PM
@hh screenshot above... 594mb/sec. 10.2 GB estimated download time: 20 seconds.
That's just obscene! I don't even have a an SSD that could write that fast. (or read?)
@hh screenshot above... 594mb/sec. 10.2 GB estimated download time: 20 seconds.
That's just obscene! I don't even have a an SSD that could write that fast. (or read?)
Askmyteapot
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Posted on: 07/11/2018 06:22 AM
Another long time lurker, first time poster.
Here in Australia, the ROG Rapture is AU$659.
If you go ubiquiti for a "simple" setup. I would suggest:
USG $169
Cloud Key $119
UAP-nanoHD $299
Unifi 8-port switch (60w PoE) $175
Total = AU$762
You could drop the Cloud Key and run the Unifi Controller software on a computer, but the Cloud Key is a lot simpler for most people and doesn't require an always on computer.
Some will say "but the EdgeMAX EdgeRouter-x/4/whatever is cheaper/more powerful/etc"
Yes. But the USG integrates seamlessly with the cloud key, making management a breeze. You also get all the really pretty graphs and DPI stats when you use all Unifi gear.
The version 5.9.x series of the Unifi controller software is looking to be very user friendly. Its in beta right now, but isn't all ubiquity software? :p
Another long time lurker, first time poster.
Here in Australia, the ROG Rapture is AU$659.
If you go ubiquiti for a "simple" setup. I would suggest:
USG $169
Cloud Key $119
UAP-nanoHD $299
Unifi 8-port switch (60w PoE) $175
Total = AU$762
You could drop the Cloud Key and run the Unifi Controller software on a computer, but the Cloud Key is a lot simpler for most people and doesn't require an always on computer.
Some will say "but the EdgeMAX EdgeRouter-x/4/whatever is cheaper/more powerful/etc"
Yes. But the USG integrates seamlessly with the cloud key, making management a breeze. You also get all the really pretty graphs and DPI stats when you use all Unifi gear.
The version 5.9.x series of the Unifi controller software is looking to be very user friendly. Its in beta right now, but isn't all ubiquity software? :p
xrodney
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Posted on: 07/11/2018 07:11 AM
Key part is "similar WiFi/Port specs" - honestly the nanoHD would be plenty of bandwidth for most people but the GT outperforms it by quite a bit when all the bands are aggregated. Either way my point isn't x or y is better but that the ASUS isn't a bad deal for the price.
The ER8 was an option - you left out the "or + cheaper stuff" - but again now you have 3 different devices instead of one. Which for some consumers who just want a singular unit in their home, taking up minimal space and not having various cables + PoE stuff everywhere, the ASUS isn't bad for the price. That being said the ASUS looks hideous so there's that.
Thats the point, having 3 specialized devices at least for me is better. Each of them is better in its own area, for example routing capabilities of ER what ever version from unify is way higher than what this asus or any other all in one wifi router can do and it also allows more advanced and complicated configurations.
Yes Asus may have theoreticaly speed advantage on paper how ever in reality according to benchmarks it goes around 400mbps on 2.4GHz and 900mbit on 5GHz and looking at specs, it still seems to be older AC wave 1 specs according to product pages as they mention only 80Mhz channel whre UBNT HD line already supports AC wave 2 with 160MHz channel.
I dont say this router might not be good, how ever after last 10 years experience with Asus, Cisco(Linksys), Netgear and microtic based all in ones I prefer separate components due to more functionality and performance wise.
Key part is "similar WiFi/Port specs" - honestly the nanoHD would be plenty of bandwidth for most people but the GT outperforms it by quite a bit when all the bands are aggregated. Either way my point isn't x or y is better but that the ASUS isn't a bad deal for the price.
The ER8 was an option - you left out the "or + cheaper stuff" - but again now you have 3 different devices instead of one. Which for some consumers who just want a singular unit in their home, taking up minimal space and not having various cables + PoE stuff everywhere, the ASUS isn't bad for the price. That being said the ASUS looks hideous so there's that.
Thats the point, having 3 specialized devices at least for me is better. Each of them is better in its own area, for example routing capabilities of ER what ever version from unify is way higher than what this asus or any other all in one wifi router can do and it also allows more advanced and complicated configurations.
Yes Asus may have theoreticaly speed advantage on paper how ever in reality according to benchmarks it goes around 400mbps on 2.4GHz and 900mbit on 5GHz and looking at specs, it still seems to be older AC wave 1 specs according to product pages as they mention only 80Mhz channel whre UBNT HD line already supports AC wave 2 with 160MHz channel.
I dont say this router might not be good, how ever after last 10 years experience with Asus, Cisco(Linksys), Netgear and microtic based all in ones I prefer separate components due to more functionality and performance wise.
xrodney
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Posted on: 07/11/2018 07:17 AM
Another long time lurker, first time poster.
Here in Australia, the ROG Rapture is AU$659.
If you go ubiquiti for a "simple" setup. I would suggest:
USG $169
Cloud Key $119
UAP-nanoHD $299
Unifi 8-port switch (60w PoE) $175
Total = AU$762
You could drop the Cloud Key and run the Unifi Controller software on a computer, but the Cloud Key is a lot simpler for most people and doesn't require an always on computer.
Some will say "but the EdgeMAX EdgeRouter-x/4/whatever is cheaper/more powerful/etc"
Yes. But the USG integrates seamlessly with the cloud key, making management a breeze. You also get all the really pretty graphs and DPI stats when you use all Unifi gear.
The version 5.9.x series of the Unifi controller software is looking to be very user friendly. Its in beta right now, but isn't all ubiquity software? :p
Main difference between USG and edge router is that USG have quite limited configuration option as routing goes compard to edge router, for me it lacks few things I am using on edge router.
In datacenter ussage Edge routers should be used for connecting all vlans and then USG to connect more edgerouters and connection between sites.
Another long time lurker, first time poster.
Here in Australia, the ROG Rapture is AU$659.
If you go ubiquiti for a "simple" setup. I would suggest:
USG $169
Cloud Key $119
UAP-nanoHD $299
Unifi 8-port switch (60w PoE) $175
Total = AU$762
You could drop the Cloud Key and run the Unifi Controller software on a computer, but the Cloud Key is a lot simpler for most people and doesn't require an always on computer.
Some will say "but the EdgeMAX EdgeRouter-x/4/whatever is cheaper/more powerful/etc"
Yes. But the USG integrates seamlessly with the cloud key, making management a breeze. You also get all the really pretty graphs and DPI stats when you use all Unifi gear.
The version 5.9.x series of the Unifi controller software is looking to be very user friendly. Its in beta right now, but isn't all ubiquity software? :p
Main difference between USG and edge router is that USG have quite limited configuration option as routing goes compard to edge router, for me it lacks few things I am using on edge router.
In datacenter ussage Edge routers should be used for connecting all vlans and then USG to connect more edgerouters and connection between sites.
deividuska
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Posted on: 07/11/2018 12:14 PM
For €400 = Pfsense + UniFi access points and you have the ability to control all your network, plus coverage way better and you can set up how you like!
For €400 = Pfsense + UniFi access points and you have the ability to control all your network, plus coverage way better and you can set up how you like!
Askmyteapot
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Posted on: 07/12/2018 03:01 AM
This is my setup. Works really well for me. Granted I have pfSense as a VM on an ESXi 6.7 box with a Linux VM for the Unifi Controller as well as.... "other" duties.
Very much aware of this. But for the consumer who is looking at this price range, but doesn't have a lot of networking knowledge, the USG is the better option. In saying that, I believe you still can do everything you would on the CLI of the EdgeRouter on the USG, but you just need to modify a config.json file as an additional step. What I would love to see is the ER-4 hardware with the USG software, that way it could do DPI on high bandwidth connections. The USG is a bit underpowered for that.
All things said and done, the Asus router here seems like a really nice bit of kit. Its looks are a bit polarising.
One thing that should be tested is OpenVPN client throughput. A lot of people are using VPNs as an extra layer of privacy and having it on your router protects the entire network. The Asus routers have OpenVPN clients built into them now.
Pfsense + UniFi access points
This is my setup. Works really well for me. Granted I have pfSense as a VM on an ESXi 6.7 box with a Linux VM for the Unifi Controller as well as.... "other" duties.
difference between USG and edge router is that USG have quite limited configuration option
Very much aware of this. But for the consumer who is looking at this price range, but doesn't have a lot of networking knowledge, the USG is the better option. In saying that, I believe you still can do everything you would on the CLI of the EdgeRouter on the USG, but you just need to modify a config.json file as an additional step. What I would love to see is the ER-4 hardware with the USG software, that way it could do DPI on high bandwidth connections. The USG is a bit underpowered for that.
All things said and done, the Asus router here seems like a really nice bit of kit. Its looks are a bit polarising.
One thing that should be tested is OpenVPN client throughput. A lot of people are using VPNs as an extra layer of privacy and having it on your router protects the entire network. The Asus routers have OpenVPN clients built into them now.
xendrome
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Posted on: 07/15/2018 12:02 AM
Guys you are going overboard on trying to build a Ubiquiti setup for home, this already exist by them - https://www.amplifi.com/ it's dead easy and works great with up to 1Gbit WAN.
Guys you are going overboard on trying to build a Ubiquiti setup for home, this already exist by them - https://www.amplifi.com/ it's dead easy and works great with up to 1Gbit WAN.
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I expected more tbh