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Posted by: on: 08/29/2019 11:33 AM [
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After reviewing the XT model, it is time to check out the ASUS Radeon RX 5700 ROG STRIX (non-XT) today. The beefy card comes with increased clocks, spiffy looks and can be called silent, and I mean really impressively silent.
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cryohellinc
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 12:20 PM
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
Also, you get a piece of cardboard with it!
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
Also, you get a piece of cardboard with it!
alanm
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 12:55 PM
Looks like he coolest, quietest AMD card yet. But seriously, $449? Thats $50 more than the ref XT.
Looks like he coolest, quietest AMD card yet. But seriously, $449? Thats $50 more than the ref XT.
Undying
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 01:07 PM
Asus is just overpriced. Im sure people will turn to other brands that didnt lost their minds.
Looks like he coolest, quietest AMD card yet. But seriously, $449? Thats $50 more than the ref XT.
Asus is just overpriced. Im sure people will turn to other brands that didnt lost their minds.
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 02:16 PM
Damn that price though.
Damn that price though.
Kaarme
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 02:37 PM
Of late I can't understand what Asus is doing with their prices. I guess they have their loyal customers who keep buying, so even if they sell less, they still make enough profit. If they aren't selling less despite the higher than competitors' prices, then I really don't understand. I have had a few of Asus cards over the years, and back then they weren't overpriced.
Asus is just overpriced. Im sure people will turn to other brands that didnt lost their minds.
Of late I can't understand what Asus is doing with their prices. I guess they have their loyal customers who keep buying, so even if they sell less, they still make enough profit. If they aren't selling less despite the higher than competitors' prices, then I really don't understand. I have had a few of Asus cards over the years, and back then they weren't overpriced.
MonstroMart
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:15 PM
Good card but as others said stupid price.
You can pretty much buy a reference XT with an aftermarket cooler for about the same price ...
Good card but as others said stupid price.
You can pretty much buy a reference XT with an aftermarket cooler for about the same price ...
spajdrik
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:31 PM
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such an underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
And I expected that reviewers will use MorePowerTool always for RX5700 and bummer ... nothing
Even though it can be all set under one minute
Some tests were done here (not in English, but pictures shows the difference)
https://gpureport.cz/clanky/218-jak-radeon-rx-5700-povysit-na-xt/radeon-rx-5700-sppt.aspx?article=218&page=2
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such an underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
And I expected that reviewers will use MorePowerTool always for RX5700 and bummer ... nothing
Even though it can be all set under one minute
Some tests were done here (not in English, but pictures shows the difference)
https://gpureport.cz/clanky/218-jak-radeon-rx-5700-povysit-na-xt/radeon-rx-5700-sppt.aspx?article=218&page=2
Embra
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:36 PM
ROG Stix seems to have it's premium.
ROG Stix seems to have it's premium.
H83
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:57 PM
I always liked Asus products, specially their MBs, but in the last years they have lost it when it comes to pricing. First their ROG products were gaming oriented with a decent premium over non ROG products then they became super expensive. To fill the gap between the normal stuff and ROG stuff, they create the Strix line, a "poor" mans ROG line, but now Strix products are becoming also expensive as hell...
I wonder if this is working for Asus...
Of late I can't understand what Asus is doing with their prices. I guess they have their loyal customers who keep buying, so even if they sell less, they still make enough profit. If they aren't selling less despite the higher than competitors' prices, then I really don't understand. I have had a few of Asus cards over the years, and back then they weren't overpriced.
I always liked Asus products, specially their MBs, but in the last years they have lost it when it comes to pricing. First their ROG products were gaming oriented with a decent premium over non ROG products then they became super expensive. To fill the gap between the normal stuff and ROG stuff, they create the Strix line, a "poor" mans ROG line, but now Strix products are becoming also expensive as hell...
I wonder if this is working for Asus...
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 05:09 PM
Pricey, but the Strix GPU series have some of the best cooling around. If I were Asus, I would put the Strix stuff on the higher end cards where more people would be willing to pay for it. Used to own the Strix 1080 Ti model and it was one of the nicest, and coolest running GPU's I've ever owned. Overclocked like a champ too.
Pricey, but the Strix GPU series have some of the best cooling around. If I were Asus, I would put the Strix stuff on the higher end cards where more people would be willing to pay for it. Used to own the Strix 1080 Ti model and it was one of the nicest, and coolest running GPU's I've ever owned. Overclocked like a champ too.
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 06:24 PM
I have a 1070 Strix and the cooler is effectively one of the best. But i did not pay that kind of premium for it though. In fact it was on sale and was one of the least expensive triple fan 1070.
I really don't see any reason to buy that over the PowerColor Devil unless you can't find the PowerColor card.
Pricey, but the Strix GPU series have some of the best cooling around. If I were Asus, I would put the Strix stuff on the higher end cards where more people would be willing to pay for it. Used to own the Strix 1080 Ti model and it was one of the nicest, and coolest running GPU's I've ever owned. Overclocked like a champ too.
I have a 1070 Strix and the cooler is effectively one of the best. But i did not pay that kind of premium for it though. In fact it was on sale and was one of the least expensive triple fan 1070.
I really don't see any reason to buy that over the PowerColor Devil unless you can't find the PowerColor card.
Embra
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 06:34 PM
Where are the Sapphire Nitros??
Where are the Sapphire Nitros??
GlennB
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 09:16 PM
Should have been out for a few days now. Nitro and the Red Devil are the to go to cards to be fair.
Where are the Sapphire Nitros??
Should have been out for a few days now. Nitro and the Red Devil are the to go to cards to be fair.
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 09:46 PM
I have a 1070 Strix and the cooler is effectively one of the best. But i did not pay that kind of premium for it though. In fact it was on sale and was one of the least expensive triple fan 1070.
I really don't see any reason to buy that over the PowerColor Devil unless you can't find the PowerColor card.
Yeah. Good point. I wonder why they jacked up the price so much for this one. They're in pretty high demand right now, right? Maybe they are taking advantage of that.
I have a 1070 Strix and the cooler is effectively one of the best. But i did not pay that kind of premium for it though. In fact it was on sale and was one of the least expensive triple fan 1070.
I really don't see any reason to buy that over the PowerColor Devil unless you can't find the PowerColor card.
Yeah. Good point. I wonder why they jacked up the price so much for this one. They're in pretty high demand right now, right? Maybe they are taking advantage of that.
alanm
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Posted on: 08/29/2019 10:05 PM
I'll give them about a month before their sales dept slap themselves in the face for thinking they can sell it higher than the tier above it. The price will not hold.
I'll give them about a month before their sales dept slap themselves in the face for thinking they can sell it higher than the tier above it. The price will not hold.
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Posted on: 08/30/2019 12:52 AM
Hilbert that thingy you put under the card for the frontpage picture is uuuugle. Here's a clean pic
Hilbert that thingy you put under the card for the frontpage picture is uuuugle. Here's a clean pic
ruthan
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Posted on: 08/30/2019 01:35 AM
I didnt yet have time to read whole review, but if card is silent with silent bios.. its nice, but we should have both measurements with perf and silent bios too.. to discovered how much it is slower with silent bios.
I didnt yet have time to read whole review, but if card is silent with silent bios.. its nice, but we should have both measurements with perf and silent bios too.. to discovered how much it is slower with silent bios.
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Posted on: 08/30/2019 04:39 AM
On page 7, It says, "Game performance in absolutes is stated to be close to 10 FLOPS single precision for the fully enabled GPU (XT), which is not bad."
I would guess that should be TFLOPS.
On page 7, It says, "Game performance in absolutes is stated to be close to 10 FLOPS single precision for the fully enabled GPU (XT), which is not bad."
I would guess that should be TFLOPS.
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Posted on: 08/30/2019 11:06 AM
Thats a BS price for non XT version! Sad!
The whole Navi potential is killed off by those ridiculous prices.
This cards should be max 350 euros.
New Vega64 Sapphire Nitro+ cards are selling for 350 euros. They are basically equal in games. And for other compute workloads Vega 64 is simply better. This non XT Strix is 460 eruos?? Really!
Thats a BS price for non XT version! Sad!
The whole Navi potential is killed off by those ridiculous prices.
This cards should be max 350 euros.
New Vega64 Sapphire Nitro+ cards are selling for 350 euros. They are basically equal in games. And for other compute workloads Vega 64 is simply better. This non XT Strix is 460 eruos?? Really!
cryohellinc
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Posted on: 08/30/2019 12:25 PM
Hey, who took away the cardboard?! That was a clear USP for this review! Blasphemy!
Hey, who took away the cardboard?! That was a clear USP for this review! Blasphemy!
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Posted on: 08/31/2019 02:14 AM
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
Actually, when looking at the Guru3d reviewed games and resolutions it doesn't beat 2060 Super.
The RX5700 has 11 wins vs 2060 Super 10 wins, but, the 2060 Super is the more consistent card.
Out of the 4 cards, the 2060 Super is never 4th place, while RX5700 comes 4th place 4 times.
Scoring each card 1 point for 1st and 4 points for last we see these results (lower is better);
42 - RTX 2060 Super
50 - RX 5700
69 - RTX 2070
79 - Vega 64
With these numbers, we see that it definitely beats RTX 2070 and Vega 64, but not RTX 2060 Super.
There's 3 games that hinder the RX 5700, those are; F1 2018, Strange Brigade and The Witcher 3. The later 2 games are where the 4x 4th place comes from. While in F1 it's 3rd place across all resolutions.
With very little overclocking headroom and basically the same performance as a standard RX 5700, then, the premium is only about the cooling. There's not much in terms of extra performance to justify it.
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.
Actually, when looking at the Guru3d reviewed games and resolutions it doesn't beat 2060 Super.
The RX5700 has 11 wins vs 2060 Super 10 wins, but, the 2060 Super is the more consistent card.
Out of the 4 cards, the 2060 Super is never 4th place, while RX5700 comes 4th place 4 times.
Scoring each card 1 point for 1st and 4 points for last we see these results (lower is better);
42 - RTX 2060 Super
50 - RX 5700
69 - RTX 2070
79 - Vega 64
With these numbers, we see that it definitely beats RTX 2070 and Vega 64, but not RTX 2060 Super.
There's 3 games that hinder the RX 5700, those are; F1 2018, Strange Brigade and The Witcher 3. The later 2 games are where the 4x 4th place comes from. While in F1 it's 3rd place across all resolutions.
With very little overclocking headroom and basically the same performance as a standard RX 5700, then, the premium is only about the cooling. There's not much in terms of extra performance to justify it.
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Posted on: 08/31/2019 11:34 AM
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
This is what the win looks like:
Every single review, out of 20, guru3d included, has 5700 losing to 2060 Super.
No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
This is what the win looks like:
Every single review, out of 20, guru3d included, has 5700 losing to 2060 Super.
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Posted on: 09/02/2019 09:09 AM
This is what the win looks like:
Every single review, out of 20, guru3d included, has 5700 losing to 2060 Super.
Looking at the game results at that resolution the 5700 seems to have slightly more wins than the 2060S ??
This is what the win looks like:
Every single review, out of 20, guru3d included, has 5700 losing to 2060 Super.
Looking at the game results at that resolution the 5700 seems to have slightly more wins than the 2060S ??
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Posted on: 09/04/2019 01:12 PM
https://www.gpureport.cz/recenze/220-asus-strix-rx-5700-o8g-gaming/asus-strix-rx-5700-o8g-gaming-pretaktovani.aspx?article=220&page=16
Overclocking results
https://www.gpureport.cz/recenze/220-asus-strix-rx-5700-o8g-gaming/asus-strix-rx-5700-o8g-gaming-pretaktovani.aspx?article=220&page=16
Overclocking results
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No one talks about these non-xt variants. Such a underrated card, it beats 2060 super and regular 2070, vega 64 in most benchmarks.
If this was 300$ product it would be a killer.