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Posted by: on: 07/13/2015 03:12 PM [
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We review the ASUS Radeon R9 Fury STRIX, this cut-down version of the Fiji XT GPU comes with the new ASUS DirectCU III air-cooler. Armed with 4GB HBM memory we'll have a look as to how the product performs, in every way possible.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:42 PM
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
lorikano
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:51 PM
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
Corbus
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:56 PM
Unoptimized means inconsistent results. Thats the last thing you want for a benchmark.
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
Unoptimized means inconsistent results. Thats the last thing you want for a benchmark.
Solfaur
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:04 PM
Anybody who wants to go AMD should stick with this rather than the Fury X. Form factor, price/performance ratio etc. are way better.
It's kind of a weird release though, as Hilbert pointed out, it's like AMD is purposely trying to sabotage itself with this behavior.
Anybody who wants to go AMD should stick with this rather than the Fury X. Form factor, price/performance ratio etc. are way better.
It's kind of a weird release though, as Hilbert pointed out, it's like AMD is purposely trying to sabotage itself with this behavior.
undeadpolice
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:12 PM
I'm ordering 2 of this cards for my main rig.
I'm ordering 2 of this cards for my main rig.
Screwdriver
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:15 PM
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
main_shoby
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:21 PM
Why would a customer save 100$ over a 980ti for this hardware?
~450$ should be the right price.
Why would a customer save 100$ over a 980ti for this hardware?
~450$ should be the right price.
moab600
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:32 PM
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
Good, ubifail deserve even your middle finger...
Now, you done so much testing it just awesome, i hope you will have time soon to do the Kepler downgrade myth test, to see once and for all how and if nvidia neglected kepler.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
Good, ubifail deserve even your middle finger...
Now, you done so much testing it just awesome, i hope you will have time soon to do the Kepler downgrade myth test, to see once and for all how and if nvidia neglected kepler.
waltc3
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:43 PM
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
schmidtbag
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:52 PM
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
Only Intruder
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:00 PM
I wonder what we'll see in the future, as by going by previous ATi/AMD product names, a "Fury XT" which could feature upgraded ROP count for example. I can totally see it happening.
I've said it before that these releases seem just like stop-gap measures and going by past releases from ATI and AMD, we've often seen cards released by them that perform lower than expected and then a few months later launch absoloutly fantastic cards and we can date this back to for example the ye olde 9000 series and each successive series, although the 2000 series kinda saw that trend get swapped around, where they released the upgraded chip as a new generation (the 3000 series).
Regardless of the speculation though, these cards do show promise and longevity too.
I wonder what we'll see in the future, as by going by previous ATi/AMD product names, a "Fury XT" which could feature upgraded ROP count for example. I can totally see it happening.
I've said it before that these releases seem just like stop-gap measures and going by past releases from ATI and AMD, we've often seen cards released by them that perform lower than expected and then a few months later launch absoloutly fantastic cards and we can date this back to for example the ye olde 9000 series and each successive series, although the 2000 series kinda saw that trend get swapped around, where they released the upgraded chip as a new generation (the 3000 series).
Regardless of the speculation though, these cards do show promise and longevity too.
ManofGod
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:27 PM
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them... It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
Although I agree with you and prefer AMD, it seems clear that NVidia's way of doing things works better. (They are making a lot more money.) Oh, and thank you for the review Hilbert.
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
Although I agree with you and prefer AMD, it seems clear that NVidia's way of doing things works better. (They are making a lot more money.) Oh, and thank you for the review Hilbert.
nexuno
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:32 PM
Looks like we have a 1440p king if the prices are @GTX980 level. Good for AMD!
Looks like we have a 1440p king if the prices are @GTX980 level. Good for AMD!
Singleton99
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:33 PM
Great review , and a good read , AMD I think has found a good spot with this card and i wish them luck .
I just wish ,,and would of loved to have seen 8gb hbm card and the impact that would have at 2560x1440 and higher resolutions if any
Its just that 4gb of vram that niggles me .
Im now waiting to see what the UK prices are going to be .
Great review , and a good read , AMD I think has found a good spot with this card and i wish them luck .
I just wish ,,and would of loved to have seen 8gb hbm card and the impact that would have at 2560x1440 and higher resolutions if any
Its just that 4gb of vram that niggles me .
Im now waiting to see what the UK prices are going to be .
Screwdriver
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:43 PM
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
But only with a 980ti non OC'd....That is why AMD needs a die shrink and more HBM.
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
But only with a 980ti non OC'd....That is why AMD needs a die shrink and more HBM.
---TK---
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 05:58 PM
This card would of been great if it was released around the time of the gm204 launch. Timing is off.
This card would of been great if it was released around the time of the gm204 launch. Timing is off.
zer0_c0ol
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:00 PM
u are going to nitpick every single this about amd
This card would of been great if it was released around the time of the gm204 launch. Timing is off.
u are going to nitpick every single this about amd
---TK---
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:06 PM
I am allowed to give my opinion in a public forum. Like I said too late to the party imo. What's every single this mean?
u are going to nitpick every single this about amd
I am allowed to give my opinion in a public forum. Like I said too late to the party imo. What's every single this mean?
zer0_c0ol
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:08 PM
not if that "opinion" is the same ol amd nitpicking that is coming from u.. every single thing u wrote was trying to undermine these cards...
I am allowed to give my opinion in a public forum. Like I said too late to the party imo.
not if that "opinion" is the same ol amd nitpicking that is coming from u.. every single thing u wrote was trying to undermine these cards...
---TK---
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:09 PM
Report me then for expressing my opinion on a public forum.
Report me then for expressing my opinion on a public forum.
alanm
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:11 PM
Seems the Fury cards may bring about some modest price cuts for Nvidia. WCCF tech reporting Nvidia AIBs may be dropping prices on 980/980ti to $479/629.
Seems the Fury cards may bring about some modest price cuts for Nvidia. WCCF tech reporting Nvidia AIBs may be dropping prices on 980/980ti to $479/629.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 06:30 PM
Not really imposing on the 980Ti but does a very good job of dispatching the 980. Gonna be hard to sell the X now.
Not really imposing on the 980Ti but does a very good job of dispatching the 980. Gonna be hard to sell the X now.
theoneofgod
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 07:01 PM
Plenty of room for an OC there. AMD are missing out on a good opportunity. Fury X with reference liquid cooler and no unlocked voltage is something else though...
The Fury looks to be a good card but no prices here yet so gonna have to wait. If it's less than a 980 that would be spot on
Plenty of room for an OC there. AMD are missing out on a good opportunity. Fury X with reference liquid cooler and no unlocked voltage is something else though...
The Fury looks to be a good card but no prices here yet so gonna have to wait. If it's less than a 980 that would be spot on
alanm
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Posted on: 07/13/2015 07:26 PM
Plenty of room for an OC there. AMD are missing out on a good opportunity. Fury X with reference liquid cooler and no unlocked voltage is something else though...
The Fury looks to be a good card but no prices here yet so gonna have to wait. If it's less than a 980 that would be spot on
Plenty of room for OC? This the problem. If these cards are not voltage unlocked soon and do not have good OC headroom, any enthusiast who knows better will just take a 980. A (cheaper) OC'd 980 > mildly OC'd Fury. Fury X has no chance vs 980ti, the latter with already confirmed massive OC headroom that simply leaves FX in the dust. Maybe an FX v2 can address that. At least Fury/x are good at 4k and CF where they may scale better in multi-GPU setups.
Personally I would love for AMD to sell millions of Furys, at least to stay in the game a bit longer. Just doubt it will happen.
Plenty of room for an OC there. AMD are missing out on a good opportunity. Fury X with reference liquid cooler and no unlocked voltage is something else though...
The Fury looks to be a good card but no prices here yet so gonna have to wait. If it's less than a 980 that would be spot on
Plenty of room for OC? This the problem. If these cards are not voltage unlocked soon and do not have good OC headroom, any enthusiast who knows better will just take a 980. A (cheaper) OC'd 980 > mildly OC'd Fury. Fury X has no chance vs 980ti, the latter with already confirmed massive OC headroom that simply leaves FX in the dust. Maybe an FX v2 can address that. At least Fury/x are good at 4k and CF where they may scale better in multi-GPU setups.
Personally I would love for AMD to sell millions of Furys, at least to stay in the game a bit longer. Just doubt it will happen.
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I think you should begin to test newer/ better known titles,. Tomb raider ,thief ,bioshock infinite are old games not suited for today's needed processing power. Titles better suited and demanding are Far cry 4 ,Assassins creed unity + other titles I can't recall right now.