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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X review
Posted by: on: 02/07/2020 03:00 PM [
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We review the all-new AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X, the behemoth of processors has actually made it to the home office and pro-consumer market at prices that will baffle Intel. This mega-core processor has 64 physical processor cores and 128 logical cores, all powered by ZEN2 architecture. This review is all about shock and awe.
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boom12a1
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 03:20 PM
Favorite quote of the article: "I mean if you spend 3990 USD on a 64-core processor to play games, then you're pretty much an idiot."
Guess I won't be buying this, but man quite the beast.
Nice review Hilbert.
Favorite quote of the article: "I mean if you spend 3990 USD on a 64-core processor to play games, then you're pretty much an idiot."
Guess I won't be buying this, but man quite the beast.
Nice review Hilbert.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 03:26 PM
No afraid not, I have been looking at that and can not isolate what is happening there, we post what we measure though. We might phase out handbrake, they will not update their software for more cores so there's a point right now it is slowly becoming a less significant benchmark.
do you have any explanation about the 3970x result in handbrake ? it's way above the 3960x and 3990x
No afraid not, I have been looking at that and can not isolate what is happening there, we post what we measure though. We might phase out handbrake, they will not update their software for more cores so there's a point right now it is slowly becoming a less significant benchmark.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 03:28 PM
That really depends on your requirements and workloads tbh. I mean as I mentioned in the conclusion, load up proxmox and you can create 16 virtualized quad-core servers on just one proc, that's golden. Same for hard-core content renderers that support this many threads.
the 3970x seems the better deal overall
That really depends on your requirements and workloads tbh. I mean as I mentioned in the conclusion, load up proxmox and you can create 16 virtualized quad-core servers on just one proc, that's golden. Same for hard-core content renderers that support this many threads.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 03:32 PM
awesome game perf for 128t
awesome game perf for 128t
tunejunky
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 03:56 PM
thank you HH for another detailed, amazing in depth review.
thank you HH for another detailed, amazing in depth review.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:00 PM
Nice review, pretty much what we expected from this beast.
Well Intel now is your turn.
Nice review, pretty much what we expected from this beast.
Well Intel now is your turn.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:16 PM
Subtle piece of hardware:p
Subtle piece of hardware:p
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:22 PM
Was Windows 10 Pro used for this review?
The performance difference in some benchmarks between Pro/Pro (with SMT off) and Enterprise is pretty significant with this processor.
I don't expect reviewers to test under three different conditions but I am curious to compare certain benchmarks with Enterprise ones if possible.
Was Windows 10 Pro used for this review?
The performance difference in some benchmarks between Pro/Pro (with SMT off) and Enterprise is pretty significant with this processor.
I don't expect reviewers to test under three different conditions but I am curious to compare certain benchmarks with Enterprise ones if possible.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:32 PM
Any chance of running the new 7zip 20.00 alpha or WinRAR beta with more core support?
Would love to see how much difference they make.
Any chance of running the new 7zip 20.00 alpha or WinRAR beta with more core support?
Would love to see how much difference they make.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:32 PM
But... they haven't even come up with a reasonable response to the 3970X yet.
Well Intel now is your turn.
But... they haven't even come up with a reasonable response to the 3970X yet.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:38 PM
What did it lose to where it should have won? Also, compare this to dual-socket Xeons and this CPU is a total bargain.
For a $4000 CPU, it blows. It lost in things that it should’ve won at! It can’t game either. For the price, it’s a rip off. It is what it is.
What did it lose to where it should have won? Also, compare this to dual-socket Xeons and this CPU is a total bargain.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:43 PM
You have to use a slower encoding preset in the video tab in order to see a difference. Using 4k hevc (h.265) instead of h.264 would also make the differences more visible with more cores but the main thing is to use the slower encoding preset or for the 3990x even the very slow preset in the video tab.
The other option is of course running concurrently more instances of handbrake with the same setting your are using now.
No afraid not, I have been looking at that and can not isolate what is happening there, we post what we measure though. We might phase out handbrake, they will not update their software for more cores so there's a point right now it is slowly becoming a less significant benchmark.
You have to use a slower encoding preset in the video tab in order to see a difference. Using 4k hevc (h.265) instead of h.264 would also make the differences more visible with more cores but the main thing is to use the slower encoding preset or for the 3990x even the very slow preset in the video tab.
The other option is of course running concurrently more instances of handbrake with the same setting your are using now.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 04:55 PM
Might have to do with Windows 10 Pro being used. Anandtech ran into some issues with Windows 10 Pro, because the OS has problems with CPUs with more than 64 threads. Windows 10 Enterprise/Workstation removes that limitation.
edit : do you have any explanation about the 3970x result in handbrake ? it's way above the 3960x and 3990x
Might have to do with Windows 10 Pro being used. Anandtech ran into some issues with Windows 10 Pro, because the OS has problems with CPUs with more than 64 threads. Windows 10 Enterprise/Workstation removes that limitation.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:03 PM
841W at 3.8Ghz on 64cores and 128threads really isn't that bad to be honest. Great review. Halo product doing halo product things. Your move "big blue".
841W at 3.8Ghz on 64cores and 128threads really isn't that bad to be honest. Great review. Halo product doing halo product things. Your move "big blue".
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:15 PM
Nice review as always ty HH.
Also the new bios update brings performance improvements
JESUS.
Nice review as always ty HH.
Also the new bios update brings performance improvements
JESUS.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:16 PM
That core count is just for future proofing?!!! and I agree that's a "coffin" for Intel....
......BTW....honestly (technically) the need to support full application is far behind.....
Correct me if I've erred ( i don't think so).
That core count is just for future proofing?!!! and I agree that's a "coffin" for Intel....
......BTW....honestly (technically) the need to support full application is far behind.....
Correct me if I've erred ( i don't think so).
It is also important to note that if you have N cores, that DOES NOT mean that you will get a speedup of N. That is the theoretical limit to the speedup. In fact, maybe with two cores it is twice as fast, but with four cores it might be about three times as fast, and then with eight cores it is about three and a half times as fast, etc. How well your program is actually able to take advantage of these cores is called the parallel scalability. Often communication and synchronization overhead prevent a linear speedup, although, in the ideal, if you can avoid communication and synchronization as much as possible, you can hopefully get close to linear.
Source (the best way to explain): stackoverflow.com
Source (the best way to explain): stackoverflow.com
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:33 PM
most of software just say "what the hell I am going to to with all those logical cores?" or "I can count up to 32/64!"
most of software just say "what the hell I am going to to with all those logical cores?" or "I can count up to 32/64!"
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:39 PM
This make sense to compare with Xeons.. otherwise its fast for applications and not bad for games.
This make sense to compare with Xeons.. otherwise its fast for applications and not bad for games.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 05:56 PM
Wow man this is a beast of a cpu, very good review
Wow man this is a beast of a cpu, very good review
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 06:20 PM
Yes
Wow man this is a beast of a cpu, very good review
Yes
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 06:27 PM
Even platinum xeons got smashed. You cant compare this to anything Intel has.
This make sense to compare with Xeons.. otherwise its fast for applications and not bad for games.
Even platinum xeons got smashed. You cant compare this to anything Intel has.
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 06:30 PM
The artificial 256GB memory cap kinda makes a case for the Intel over TR3 in rendering though. AMD needs to lift that cap. (They limit the memory confit to 8GB unbuffered single rank modules per dimm to have 3200Mhz as well).
Even platinum xeons got smashed. You cant compare this to anything Intel has.
The artificial 256GB memory cap kinda makes a case for the Intel over TR3 in rendering though. AMD needs to lift that cap. (They limit the memory confit to 8GB unbuffered single rank modules per dimm to have 3200Mhz as well).
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 06:30 PM
Intel still wins in certain AVX workloads as well. I wonder if Z3 will support 512?
Intel still wins in certain AVX workloads as well. I wonder if Z3 will support 512?
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Posted on: 02/07/2020 06:35 PM
I believe there is a 32GB limit per dimm on tr3. The product would be more desirable if that cap wer 64GB per dimm but AMD seems to think that would cannibalize the EPYC line (even though they support dual socket and up to 4TB of memory).
Intel still wins in certain AVX workloads as well. I wonder if Z3 will support 512?
I believe there is a 32GB limit per dimm on tr3. The product would be more desirable if that cap wer 64GB per dimm but AMD seems to think that would cannibalize the EPYC line (even though they support dual socket and up to 4TB of memory).
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the 3970x seems the better deal overall...
edit : do you have any explanation about the 3970x result in handbrake ? it's way above the 3960x and 3990x