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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X review





These are crazy times in the desktop processor landscape. CPUs with 24 to even 32 processor cores are slowly becoming the norm. AMD just released their 3rd generation of Threadripper processors, in this review we check out the Ryzen Threadripper 3970X.
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schmidtbag
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Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:19 PM
For the amount of cores you're getting at such high speeds, I'd say the power consumption is actually totally reasonable. In multithreaded load, the 3970X uses 26% more power than the 10980XE, but has 44% more cores.
I'm sure you could shave off 100W by limiting the max boost clocks by 200-500 MHz.
But yeah, this CPU is tremendously overkill for most of us. As a lot of reviewers have stated, this is the kind of CPU you get if it makes you money. Otherwise, the 3950X is pretty much as high as anyone needs to go (and even that I find to be overkill).
The only downside is the power consumption. The best CPU for those who can take advantage of all that firepower because for someone like me it´s just useless...
For the amount of cores you're getting at such high speeds, I'd say the power consumption is actually totally reasonable. In multithreaded load, the 3970X uses 26% more power than the 10980XE, but has 44% more cores.
I'm sure you could shave off 100W by limiting the max boost clocks by 200-500 MHz.
But yeah, this CPU is tremendously overkill for most of us. As a lot of reviewers have stated, this is the kind of CPU you get if it makes you money. Otherwise, the 3950X is pretty much as high as anyone needs to go (and even that I find to be overkill).
slyphnier
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Posted on: 11/26/2019 03:30 PM
3 vs 3 nvme slots
old nvme placement vs new L design
seems better no ? well no, not if you want to actually use your slots and connectors
- rear io ports : a win for Asus
- pcie slots : who really uses 4x pcie x16 ?...more about that below
- sata ports : it's not 8, it's not even 6 it's 4 "real" sata ports + 4x Asmedia from my experience and I'm not the only one asmedia are ok for HDDs not for SSDs while the sequential speeds are ok the random read/writes are way slower than what they should be the Msi has 6 real sata ports
- how many cases have 2x usb-c at the front but only 2 usb-a ? not my lian-li dynamic xl which instead does have 4x usb3.1 + 1x usb3.2 so the creator is perfect for it
- oh yeah I said 4 "real" + 4 asmedia SATA ? my mistake it's actually 4+2 because M2.3 nvme will disable 2 sata ports
- oh yeah again I said 4x pcie x16 ? my mistake it's actually 3+(1x4) as the M2.2 nvme will slow pcie slot no4 to x4 speed
- the main non-shared nvme slot is the one below the gpu pcie slot not very smart temperature wise (unlike msi m2.1 is down right, m2.2 is down left m2.3 is vertical up right)
anyway that is a lot of negatives for me
the people at msi on the other hand know what they are doing
its ur opinion not other ... its just matter of personal preference
i for one have bad experience with few msi gpus that just dying soon after warranty period
then the costumer support in my area is no good either... thus even they making attractive product, i rarely pick them over other maker
now those u mention probably make-sense, but nonetheless still Asus provide more connection/slot for those need
and those nvme slot below GPU, dont think it(warm air from GPU) will effect the temp much, probably ±5℃? ...many mobo have slot like that, msi x570 prestige also have slot like that right ? cmiiw
EDIT : when I tell people to carefully read motherboards manual here's why
ASUS ROG ZENITH II EXTREME (in stock) vs MSI Creator TRX40 (2 weeks delay)
12 vs 10 usb ports on the rear io
4 pcie x16 slots vs 2+(2x8)
8 sata ports vs 6
2x usb3.2 + 1x usb3.1 vs 1x usb3.2 + 2x usb3.1 (front panel)
4 pcie x16 slots vs 2+(2x8)
8 sata ports vs 6
2x usb3.2 + 1x usb3.1 vs 1x usb3.2 + 2x usb3.1 (front panel)
3 vs 3 nvme slots
old nvme placement vs new L design
seems better no ? well no, not if you want to actually use your slots and connectors
- rear io ports : a win for Asus
- pcie slots : who really uses 4x pcie x16 ?...more about that below
- sata ports : it's not 8, it's not even 6 it's 4 "real" sata ports + 4x Asmedia from my experience and I'm not the only one asmedia are ok for HDDs not for SSDs while the sequential speeds are ok the random read/writes are way slower than what they should be the Msi has 6 real sata ports
- how many cases have 2x usb-c at the front but only 2 usb-a ? not my lian-li dynamic xl which instead does have 4x usb3.1 + 1x usb3.2 so the creator is perfect for it
- oh yeah I said 4 "real" + 4 asmedia SATA ? my mistake it's actually 4+2 because M2.3 nvme will disable 2 sata ports
- oh yeah again I said 4x pcie x16 ? my mistake it's actually 3+(1x4) as the M2.2 nvme will slow pcie slot no4 to x4 speed
- the main non-shared nvme slot is the one below the gpu pcie slot not very smart temperature wise (unlike msi m2.1 is down right, m2.2 is down left m2.3 is vertical up right)
anyway that is a lot of negatives for me

its ur opinion not other ... its just matter of personal preference
i for one have bad experience with few msi gpus that just dying soon after warranty period
then the costumer support in my area is no good either... thus even they making attractive product, i rarely pick them over other maker
now those u mention probably make-sense, but nonetheless still Asus provide more connection/slot for those need
and those nvme slot below GPU, dont think it(warm air from GPU) will effect the temp much, probably ±5℃? ...many mobo have slot like that, msi x570 prestige also have slot like that right ? cmiiw
angelgraves13
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Posted on: 11/26/2019 05:14 PM
As a consumer, what difference does it make to you the process used to create it? none.
You care about speed or price or power consumption or a combination of the above.
Every 6 months there will be something at the horizon that feels so much better.
Zen 3 is going to be a big upgrade, even over Zen 2.
As a consumer, what difference does it make to you the process used to create it? none.
You care about speed or price or power consumption or a combination of the above.
Every 6 months there will be something at the horizon that feels so much better.
Zen 3 is going to be a big upgrade, even over Zen 2.
Mesab67
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Posted on: 11/26/2019 06:40 PM
Things seem ominously lacking on the ability to purchase anything above the 3900x. ETA on some stores for the 3950x is >2 months, 3960x/70x >1 month.
Were we expecting the 3950x and above to be available for purchase now?
Things seem ominously lacking on the ability to purchase anything above the 3900x. ETA on some stores for the 3950x is >2 months, 3960x/70x >1 month.
Were we expecting the 3950x and above to be available for purchase now?
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As a consumer, what difference does it make to you the process used to create it? none.
You care about speed or price or power consumption or a combination of the above.
Every 6 months there will be something at the horizon that feels so much better.