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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X review
Posted by: on: 08/10/2017 02:01 PM [
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Today is the day that many have been waiting on, AMD Ryzen Threadripper processors have been unleashed, the review embargoes are lifted and as such, welcome to the first HEDT AMD Processor review. In this review we check out the flagship Ryzen Threadripper 1950X, oh - we have some test results to share with you alright!
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truongpham2411
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:16 PM
I think the GPU have bottleneck the system. It should be use three GTX 1080 TI in SLI
I think the GPU have bottleneck the system. It should be use three GTX 1080 TI in SLI
Steppzor
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:18 PM
Excellent review as always HH!
That 1950x looks tasty, but i'm not that into content creation so might be a bit overkill for me. Will wait for the 1900x review which i think is more suitable for me.
Excellent review as always HH!
That 1950x looks tasty, but i'm not that into content creation so might be a bit overkill for me. Will wait for the 1900x review which i think is more suitable for me.
CPC_RedDawn
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:19 PM
intel offices right now....
intel offices right now....
Keno34
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:21 PM
intel offices right now....
LOOOOOOOOL Exactly that !!
intel offices right now....
LOOOOOOOOL Exactly that !!
jortego128
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:22 PM
Most powerful desktop processor on the planet....3 years ago, who would have thought AMD would launch it in 2017??? Certainly not Intel!!
Most powerful desktop processor on the planet....3 years ago, who would have thought AMD would launch it in 2017??? Certainly not Intel!!
sverek
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:29 PM
Rip intel
Rip intel
Loophole35
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:32 PM
Well gaming is same as AM4 so increased bandwidth did not help with that slight bottleneck. Still phenomenal CPU. RIP Intel HEDT.
Well gaming is same as AM4 so increased bandwidth did not help with that slight bottleneck. Still phenomenal CPU. RIP Intel HEDT.
norton
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:41 PM
very impressive even the single core performance i thought it will be lower than intel competitive but @ 4Ghz it's matching with every intel CPU single core performance .
AMD done it right this time
very impressive even the single core performance i thought it will be lower than intel competitive but @ 4Ghz it's matching with every intel CPU single core performance .
AMD done it right this time
Denial
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:44 PM
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
Well gaming is same as AM4 so increased bandwidth did not help with that slight bottleneck. Still phenomenal CPU. RIP Intel HEDT.
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
Aura89
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:45 PM
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
lmimmfn
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:47 PM
Wow, its glorious
Great review HH
Wow, its glorious
Great review HH
yasamoka
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:49 PM
Awesome performer, such great news. Thanks for the review Hilbert! As always.
Awesome performer, such great news. Thanks for the review Hilbert! As always.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:49 PM
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
The real funny thing in that bench in the Fiji and Polaris results. AMD is sabotaging AMD with their drivers!!!!!!! Break out the pitchforks.
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/17
It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.
Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
The real funny thing in that bench in the Fiji and Polaris results. AMD is sabotaging AMD with their drivers!!!!!!! Break out the pitchforks.
Reardan
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:52 PM
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png
If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png
If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
Aura89
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:54 PM
Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png
If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
Not a whole lot.
Though i'm confused where you came up with specifically 132 and 70.
Again, as i said, i'd wonder if rocket league had an update since them, or nvidia drivers.
If it was a universal issue, again: I'd feel the issue, i play rocket league, and i notice stuttering, as it's possibly the most annoying thing ever.
Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png
If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
Not a whole lot.
Though i'm confused where you came up with specifically 132 and 70.
Again, as i said, i'd wonder if rocket league had an update since them, or nvidia drivers.
If it was a universal issue, again: I'd feel the issue, i play rocket league, and i notice stuttering, as it's possibly the most annoying thing ever.
Denial
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:57 PM
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
He has a 1080 and 1700x. I know his BIOS is updated, I don't know how Anandtech tested, if they retested Ryzen with newer BIOS's or whatnot. But I know the issue is fairly widespread, I'm subbed to the rocketleague sub and I see people post about it every now in then looking for solutions - most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.
Rocket League in general seems to have some weird issues related to FPS though, especially on 144hz monitors it would seem. The netcode rate is supposedly tied to your framerate - so large swings in framerate cause more excessive stuttering then in other games where that isn't the case.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...
As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
He has a 1080 and 1700x. I know his BIOS is updated, I don't know how Anandtech tested, if they retested Ryzen with newer BIOS's or whatnot. But I know the issue is fairly widespread, I'm subbed to the rocketleague sub and I see people post about it every now in then looking for solutions - most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.
Rocket League in general seems to have some weird issues related to FPS though, especially on 144hz monitors it would seem. The netcode rate is supposedly tied to your framerate - so large swings in framerate cause more excessive stuttering then in other games where that isn't the case.
Aura89
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:58 PM
most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.
I wonder if i have that disabled...
especially on 144hz monitors it would seem.
I do have that, but i also have gsync, who knows if its that's a factor either.
most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.
I wonder if i have that disabled...
especially on 144hz monitors it would seem.
I do have that, but i also have gsync, who knows if its that's a factor either.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:01 PM
Awesome review and awesome platform. Hats down to AMD, if I were to make a build now it would be X399 TR no doubt!
Awesome review and awesome platform. Hats down to AMD, if I were to make a build now it would be X399 TR no doubt!
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:01 PM
I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of the same architecture.
I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.
I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.
It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.
I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of the same architecture.
I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.
I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.
It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:07 PM
Text is repeated on the Vegas page:
"We added a new software title to the benchmark suit, Magix Vegas Pro. This professional video editing software Vegas Pro is a video editing software package for non-linear editing. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0."
I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of effectively the same architecture.
I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.
I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.
It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.
Better silicon? I believe AMD said that Epyc and TR were getting the best of it.
Text is repeated on the Vegas page:
"We added a new software title to the benchmark suit, Magix Vegas Pro. This professional video editing software Vegas Pro is a video editing software package for non-linear editing. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0."
I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of effectively the same architecture.
I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.
I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.
It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.
Better silicon? I believe AMD said that Epyc and TR were getting the best of it.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:08 PM
intel offices right now....
Best thing I've seen today
Then I saw the benchmarks 
RIP Intel 1968-2017
PS: I loved the new IPC/Single thread test at 3.5Ghz HH, thanks for your hard work!
Late Edit: I'd love to see what people have to say now about crap Tomb Raider performance...
intel offices right now....
Best thing I've seen today
Then I saw the benchmarks
RIP Intel 1968-2017
PS: I loved the new IPC/Single thread test at 3.5Ghz HH, thanks for your hard work!
Late Edit: I'd love to see what people have to say now about crap Tomb Raider performance...
Aura89
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:10 PM
Am i crazy, or am i not able to see the results of thermals? what page are they on?
Am i crazy, or am i not able to see the results of thermals? what page are they on?
Prince Valiant
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:11 PM
It's merged with power consumption:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,8.html
Am i crazy, or am i not able to see the results of thermals? what page are they on?
It's merged with power consumption:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,8.html
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:15 PM
Very nice to see this kind of performance out of TR. Between that and Ryzen hopefully we'll start to see some actual competition in the CPU market again.
Very nice to see this kind of performance out of TR. Between that and Ryzen hopefully we'll start to see some actual competition in the CPU market again.
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Hurray !
Now that I've posted in the forum... time to read the article as well ^.^
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Edit: After seeing first pages of benchmarks: