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The 7nm processor revolution is here, join us as we review the new Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X processors from AMD. 7nm Zen2 processors have arrived. A new architecture, a chiplet design, X570 Chipsets and of course we have some procs to look at!
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Kaarme
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 05:31 PM
I liked the PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD test page. It felt like Hilbert was really having fun testing it and writing about it. That makes me think it would be nice if some manufacturer came up with a really weird (but remarkable) piece of hardware he could review. After the thousands of CPUs, GPUs, mobos, and other stuff that have passed through his hands, I imagine he'd always look forward to something that's not just +15% performance increase.
I liked the PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD test page. It felt like Hilbert was really having fun testing it and writing about it. That makes me think it would be nice if some manufacturer came up with a really weird (but remarkable) piece of hardware he could review. After the thousands of CPUs, GPUs, mobos, and other stuff that have passed through his hands, I imagine he'd always look forward to something that's not just +15% performance increase.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 05:34 PM
I'm very satisfied with these results - sure Zen2 is just under coffee lake in a few games but it's very good overall when considering other tasks (a PC isn't just going to be used solely for gaming is it?).
Zen2 powered PC is going to be excellent at multi-tasking heavy workloads, this review has pretty much allowed me to confirm that I will indeed upgrade to a 3700X.
CCL Online have listed the prices for Zen2 CPUs and a 3700X at £320 vs 9900K at £465, that's a saving of £145 for similar performance, good gaming experience, a hell of a lot better than my i5 4690k which my sample is a crap overclocker, and many more cores/threads for better production, video encoding being something I do fairly often (which on this i5, I often do very slow h.264 batches, I have to do overnight).
Thank you very much @Hilbert Hagedoorn for your time and dedication to providing a quality review.
I'm very satisfied with these results - sure Zen2 is just under coffee lake in a few games but it's very good overall when considering other tasks (a PC isn't just going to be used solely for gaming is it?).
Zen2 powered PC is going to be excellent at multi-tasking heavy workloads, this review has pretty much allowed me to confirm that I will indeed upgrade to a 3700X.
CCL Online have listed the prices for Zen2 CPUs and a 3700X at £320 vs 9900K at £465, that's a saving of £145 for similar performance, good gaming experience, a hell of a lot better than my i5 4690k which my sample is a crap overclocker, and many more cores/threads for better production, video encoding being something I do fairly often (which on this i5, I often do very slow h.264 batches, I have to do overnight).
Thank you very much @Hilbert Hagedoorn for your time and dedication to providing a quality review.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 05:34 PM
Seems AMD wringed every last mhz out of these CPUs. No worthwhile headroom left for OC'ing.
Still, complete non-issue for me as the overall package remains far more desirable for me vs Intels offerings.
Seems AMD wringed every last mhz out of these CPUs. No worthwhile headroom left for OC'ing.
As you can observe, the tweaking results are all very modest. Imho, you are better off with these processors at default, as one or two cores can Turbo higher, which is far more beneficial in games opposed to having all cores at ~4400 MHz. So in that respect, the positives do not outweigh the negatives.
Still, complete non-issue for me as the overall package remains far more desirable for me vs Intels offerings.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 05:46 PM
Ryzen 3900x 4.2ghz RIP 1.45v. Just ask der8auer and Hardware Unboxed. Be careful overclocking this CPU, new owners.
Well der8auer isn't new to killing shit.
Seems AMD wringed every last mhz out of these CPUs. No worthwhile headroom left for OC'ing.
Still, complete non-issue for me as the overall package remains far more desirable for me vs Intels offerings.
None issue for me too except it kills my desire to overclock lol. However it looks like i might need to get into undervolting as with all AMD products they push through far to much voltage.
Ryzen 3900x 4.2ghz RIP 1.45v. Just ask der8auer and Hardware Unboxed. Be careful overclocking this CPU, new owners.
Well der8auer isn't new to killing shit.
Seems AMD wringed every last mhz out of these CPUs. No worthwhile headroom left for OC'ing.
Still, complete non-issue for me as the overall package remains far more desirable for me vs Intels offerings.
None issue for me too except it kills my desire to overclock lol. However it looks like i might need to get into undervolting as with all AMD products they push through far to much voltage.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 05:58 PM
Color me stupid but where are the 3800Xs? Did I miss something about it's launch? Cannot find it anywhere. 3700X is still to be had but 3800X is a no show. Why?
Was not really interested in overclocking the cpu this time around. Figured the improvements would be enough to not consider it an option.
Color me stupid but where are the 3800Xs? Did I miss something about it's launch? Cannot find it anywhere. 3700X is still to be had but 3800X is a no show. Why?
Was not really interested in overclocking the cpu this time around. Figured the improvements would be enough to not consider it an option.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:01 PM
It's not a revolution and AMD has never said it would be either. People have to stop believing in everything that comes out of youtubers' mouths!
Overall they are good CPUs, they don´t beat Intel across the board, but they are extremely competitive and that's the most important thing!
It's not a revolution and AMD has never said it would be either. People have to stop believing in everything that comes out of youtubers' mouths!
Overall they are good CPUs, they don´t beat Intel across the board, but they are extremely competitive and that's the most important thing!
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:02 PM
My thoughts exactly. The one thing I need to know is if the 3800x is better than the 3700x in a meaningful way, since apparently overclocking is not worth it with these procs.
Still, I'll probably buy the 3700x simply because the performance is already good enough.
Color me stupid but where are the 3800Xs? Did I miss something about it's launch? Cannot find it anywhere. 3700X is still to be had but 3800X is a no show. Why?
My thoughts exactly. The one thing I need to know is if the 3800x is better than the 3700x in a meaningful way, since apparently overclocking is not worth it with these procs.
Still, I'll probably buy the 3700x simply because the performance is already good enough.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:12 PM
Yeah I also thought there will be a 3800X in reviews.. maybe it would make 3700X too weak?
Yeah I also thought there will be a 3800X in reviews.. maybe it would make 3700X too weak?
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Color me stupid but where are the 3800Xs? Did I miss something about it's launch? Cannot find it anywhere. 3700X is still to be had but 3800X is a no show. Why?
Was not really interested in overclocking the cpu this time around. Figured the improvements would be enough to not consider it an option.
3800x seems to not have been included in the review samples, at least not yet.
That being said, a 3800x in many scenarios (such as gaming) will have similar results to a 3900x, possibly slightly higher, possibly slightly lower, considering the base frequency is higher then a 3900x, but the boost frequency is lower. But given the fact it doesn't seem the boost frequencies of 4.6 seem to realistically be happening, i'd say a 3800x will be marginally faster in everything that doesn't utilize 12 cores/24 threads then the 3900x, but very, very slightly marginally.
So my suggestion is, look at the 3900x results, and see if those results would be adequate for your needs, and know that if you are basing your purchase on something that will utilize more cores, the 3900x will be better.
Color me stupid but where are the 3800Xs? Did I miss something about it's launch? Cannot find it anywhere. 3700X is still to be had but 3800X is a no show. Why?
Was not really interested in overclocking the cpu this time around. Figured the improvements would be enough to not consider it an option.
3800x seems to not have been included in the review samples, at least not yet.
That being said, a 3800x in many scenarios (such as gaming) will have similar results to a 3900x, possibly slightly higher, possibly slightly lower, considering the base frequency is higher then a 3900x, but the boost frequency is lower. But given the fact it doesn't seem the boost frequencies of 4.6 seem to realistically be happening, i'd say a 3800x will be marginally faster in everything that doesn't utilize 12 cores/24 threads then the 3900x, but very, very slightly marginally.
So my suggestion is, look at the 3900x results, and see if those results would be adequate for your needs, and know that if you are basing your purchase on something that will utilize more cores, the 3900x will be better.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:25 PM
want one
Linus makes a good point in his video about running OBS in the background (I am even tough 5 people view my videos lol) nowadays a lot of people stream or make videos
thats said the motherboard is going to be tough for me..I want 10Gbit and this far I only saw 1 and here it's 835$
I guess there are cheaper MB but it makes the choice from 3900x to 3700x pretty obvious, when the MB is more expensive than the cpu buying a "cheaper" cpu to spare money would be pretty dumb
want one
Linus makes a good point in his video about running OBS in the background (I am even tough 5 people view my videos lol) nowadays a lot of people stream or make videos
thats said the motherboard is going to be tough for me..I want 10Gbit and this far I only saw 1 and here it's 835$
I guess there are cheaper MB but it makes the choice from 3900x to 3700x pretty obvious, when the MB is more expensive than the cpu buying a "cheaper" cpu to spare money would be pretty dumb
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thats said the motherboard is going to be tough for me..I want 10Gbit and this far I only saw 1 and here it's 835$
I'm not sure linking someone elses review directly in the forum about guru3ds review is that...courteous? we'll see if a mod removes it.
That being said i don't know where you live, but it's likely cheaper and just as good to buy a much much cheaper motherboard that doesn't have 10Gbit, and buy 10Gbit PCI-Express card.
Such as this
https://www.newegg.com/asus-xg-c100c/p/N82E16833320272?Description=10gb ethernet&cm_re=10gb_ethernet-_-33-320-272-_-Product
Or this
https://www.newegg.com/intel-x540t2/p/N82E16833106083?Description=10gb ethernet&cm_re=10gb_ethernet-_-33-106-083-_-Product
thats said the motherboard is going to be tough for me..I want 10Gbit and this far I only saw 1 and here it's 835$
I'm not sure linking someone elses review directly in the forum about guru3ds review is that...courteous? we'll see if a mod removes it.
That being said i don't know where you live, but it's likely cheaper and just as good to buy a much much cheaper motherboard that doesn't have 10Gbit, and buy 10Gbit PCI-Express card.
Such as this
https://www.newegg.com/asus-xg-c100c/p/N82E16833320272?Description=10gb ethernet&cm_re=10gb_ethernet-_-33-320-272-_-Product
Or this
https://www.newegg.com/intel-x540t2/p/N82E16833106083?Description=10gb ethernet&cm_re=10gb_ethernet-_-33-106-083-_-Product
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:38 PM
Finally AMD brings the fight to Intel and it is great!
It is not the "nuclear bomb" that some channels forecasted but is is finally a solid alternative to intel best.
I particularly liked from other reviews the performance in adobe photoshop - finally intel was beaten in a software optimized for it and this only because of the increase in IPC (raw power)!
I will wait until September for the 3950X - it will most certainly power my next workstation. I am also happy that there is no performance difference between x470 and x570 CPU related - I don't care for pcie 4.0.
Once again great job AMD!
Finally AMD brings the fight to Intel and it is great!
It is not the "nuclear bomb" that some channels forecasted but is is finally a solid alternative to intel best.
I particularly liked from other reviews the performance in adobe photoshop - finally intel was beaten in a software optimized for it and this only because of the increase in IPC (raw power)!
I will wait until September for the 3950X - it will most certainly power my next workstation. I am also happy that there is no performance difference between x470 and x570 CPU related - I don't care for pcie 4.0.
Once again great job AMD!
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:47 PM
Finally AMD brings the fight to Intel and it is great!
It is not the "nuclear bomb" that some channels forecasted but is is finally a solid alternative to intel best.
I particularly liked from other reviews the performance in adobe photoshop - finally intel was beaten in a software optimized for it and this only because of the increase in IPC (raw power)!
I will wait until September for the 3950X - it will most certainly power my next workstation. I am also happy that there is no performance difference between x470 and x570 CPU related - I don't care for pcie 4.0.
Once again great job AMD!
Although ironically the memory bandwidth is not hurting the 12 core... it's bitch slapping Threadripper 2920X right off the chart. with around 15-30%.
Finally AMD brings the fight to Intel and it is great!
It is not the "nuclear bomb" that some channels forecasted but is is finally a solid alternative to intel best.
I particularly liked from other reviews the performance in adobe photoshop - finally intel was beaten in a software optimized for it and this only because of the increase in IPC (raw power)!
I will wait until September for the 3950X - it will most certainly power my next workstation. I am also happy that there is no performance difference between x470 and x570 CPU related - I don't care for pcie 4.0.
Once again great job AMD!
Although ironically the memory bandwidth is not hurting the 12 core... it's bitch slapping Threadripper 2920X right off the chart. with around 15-30%.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:55 PM
I don't expect the memory bandwidth to hurt the 16 core either. Maybe in very select situations, in which that'll be up to the individual person to see if quad-channel setup and etc. will be the better solution for them, but this seems to be something that has been said a multiple times the last few years, that hasn't really shown to be true whenever its been stated, for the most part.
Although ironically the memory bandwidth is not hurting the 12 core... it's bitch slapping Threadripper 2920X right off the chart. with around 15-30%.
I don't expect the memory bandwidth to hurt the 16 core either. Maybe in very select situations, in which that'll be up to the individual person to see if quad-channel setup and etc. will be the better solution for them, but this seems to be something that has been said a multiple times the last few years, that hasn't really shown to be true whenever its been stated, for the most part.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:56 PM
A question for those with more knowledge than myself. Is the 3700X likely to be a massive upgrade for me since I currently have a 4790K@4.6? I game at 3440x1440 on a 120hz monitor with a 1080 Ti. I've been holding off on an upgrade for quite a while now, but I think this summer is my time to build. Anyone have some thoughts? It's tough to find benchmarks that include my old hardware for comparison. I'm thinking since I game at a pretty high resolution that any Intel clock speed advantage would not really matter, even with their higher end stuff. Am I right?
A question for those with more knowledge than myself. Is the 3700X likely to be a massive upgrade for me since I currently have a 4790K@4.6? I game at 3440x1440 on a 120hz monitor with a 1080 Ti. I've been holding off on an upgrade for quite a while now, but I think this summer is my time to build. Anyone have some thoughts? It's tough to find benchmarks that include my old hardware for comparison. I'm thinking since I game at a pretty high resolution that any Intel clock speed advantage would not really matter, even with their higher end stuff. Am I right?
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:57 PM
Great stuff from AMD this. Looks like it's a good time for me to finally upgrade from my old 3770K.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn , it would be interesting to see results from a gaming oriented benchmark like the Civilization 6 AI Benchmark. Is that something you could consider doing in future CPU reviews?
Great stuff from AMD this. Looks like it's a good time for me to finally upgrade from my old 3770K.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn , it would be interesting to see results from a gaming oriented benchmark like the Civilization 6 AI Benchmark. Is that something you could consider doing in future CPU reviews?
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 06:59 PM
I'd say yes, for the quad-core factor alone. Due to your high 4.6Ghz frequency, there could, MAYBE be some places a 3700x would actually have lower performance, but honestly i really doubt that, especially if you've installed all the security updates (if available). I'd have to see exactly how a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz IPC rating actually is to say that with any amount of absolute though. I really don't see a 3700x losing in any scenario to a 4790K even at 4.6Ghz
I mean even at worst, the 3700x will boost into 4.3ish GHz, and with the higher IPC of the 3700x, that should be better performance then 4.6Ghz Haswell IPC. This means, at worst, you'd be getting double the processor, at worst.
I'd say if you want more exactness, do some tests on your CPU that are included in this review, and compare them. Obviously everything won't be 100% comparable, as they are different setups, but you should be able to get an idea.
A question for those with more knowledge than myself. Is the 3700X likely to be a massive upgrade for me since I currently have a 4790K@4.6? I game at 3440x1440 on a 120hz monitor with a 1080 Ti. I've been holding off on an upgrade for quite a while now, but I think this summer is my time to build. Anyone have some thoughts? It's tough to find benchmarks that include my old hardware for comparison. I'm thinking since I game at a pretty high resolution that any Intel clock speed advantage would not really matter, even with their higher end stuff. Am I right?
I'd say yes, for the quad-core factor alone. Due to your high 4.6Ghz frequency, there could, MAYBE be some places a 3700x would actually have lower performance, but honestly i really doubt that, especially if you've installed all the security updates (if available). I'd have to see exactly how a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz IPC rating actually is to say that with any amount of absolute though. I really don't see a 3700x losing in any scenario to a 4790K even at 4.6Ghz
I mean even at worst, the 3700x will boost into 4.3ish GHz, and with the higher IPC of the 3700x, that should be better performance then 4.6Ghz Haswell IPC. This means, at worst, you'd be getting double the processor, at worst.
I'd say if you want more exactness, do some tests on your CPU that are included in this review, and compare them. Obviously everything won't be 100% comparable, as they are different setups, but you should be able to get an idea.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 07:07 PM
"Today is the 7th day of the 7th month and it's time for a review of these 7nm products."
Poetry right there
"Today is the 7th day of the 7th month and it's time for a review of these 7nm products."
Poetry right there
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 07:13 PM
Thank you for your review HH,i enjoyed reading it
maybe with later AGESA microcode updates there may still be i little more performance to be had . I will probably give the 3700x ago and finely replace my 6700k, as i game @ 1440p i think this a good choice for me ,the money a save will go on 32gb of ram instead of the 16gb .
Thank you for your review HH,i enjoyed reading it
maybe with later AGESA microcode updates there may still be i little more performance to be had . I will probably give the 3700x ago and finely replace my 6700k, as i game @ 1440p i think this a good choice for me ,the money a save will go on 32gb of ram instead of the 16gb .
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 07:32 PM
Linus is comedian and very specific type of geek. That makes his videos sometimes annoying, sometimes valuable. He did some complementary tests to Hilbert's set.
Like R6:Siege ...score? Game performance during reasonably set streaming settings. And game threads locking to specific set of cores.
In other words he focused less on traditional benchmarking and went to fringes of interests to limit his redundancy. (Pretty smart, I say.)
Linus is comedian and very specific type of geek. That makes his videos sometimes annoying, sometimes valuable. He did some complementary tests to Hilbert's set.
Like R6:Siege ...score? Game performance during reasonably set streaming settings. And game threads locking to specific set of cores.
In other words he focused less on traditional benchmarking and went to fringes of interests to limit his redundancy. (Pretty smart, I say.)
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 07:41 PM
I'd say yes, for the quad-core factor alone. Due to your high 4.6Ghz frequency, there could, MAYBE be some places a 3700x would actually have lower performance, but honestly i really doubt that, especially if you've installed all the security updates (if available). I'd have to see exactly how a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz IPC rating actually is to say that with any amount of absolute though. I really don't see a 3700x losing in any scenario to a 4790K even at 4.6Ghz
I mean even at worst, the 3700x will boost into 4.3ish GHz, and with the higher IPC of the 3700x, that should be better performance then 4.6Ghz Haswell IPC. This means, at worst, you'd be getting double the processor, at worst.
I'd say if you want more exactness, do some tests on your CPU that are included in this review, and compare them. Obviously everything won't be 100% comparable, as they are different setups, but you should be able to get an idea.
Thanks! I think moving away from quad core is my main goal. I've seen some massive drops and nearly outright freezes in games like BFV that just brings the action to a halt accompanied by extreme CPU spikes in my Afterburner monitoring. With all the IPC gains made by AMD since my 4790K was released I think I'm probably looking at better performance all around with something like a 3700X. The price of the 3700X is super attractive too. I'll probably wait to see reviews on the rest of the 3000 lineup, but I'll probably be picking up an AMD CPU this year regardless.
I'd say yes, for the quad-core factor alone. Due to your high 4.6Ghz frequency, there could, MAYBE be some places a 3700x would actually have lower performance, but honestly i really doubt that, especially if you've installed all the security updates (if available). I'd have to see exactly how a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz IPC rating actually is to say that with any amount of absolute though. I really don't see a 3700x losing in any scenario to a 4790K even at 4.6Ghz
I mean even at worst, the 3700x will boost into 4.3ish GHz, and with the higher IPC of the 3700x, that should be better performance then 4.6Ghz Haswell IPC. This means, at worst, you'd be getting double the processor, at worst.
I'd say if you want more exactness, do some tests on your CPU that are included in this review, and compare them. Obviously everything won't be 100% comparable, as they are different setups, but you should be able to get an idea.
Thanks! I think moving away from quad core is my main goal. I've seen some massive drops and nearly outright freezes in games like BFV that just brings the action to a halt accompanied by extreme CPU spikes in my Afterburner monitoring. With all the IPC gains made by AMD since my 4790K was released I think I'm probably looking at better performance all around with something like a 3700X. The price of the 3700X is super attractive too. I'll probably wait to see reviews on the rest of the 3000 lineup, but I'll probably be picking up an AMD CPU this year regardless.
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Was thinking about the 3900x, but the 3700x looks just as good, and im only a gamer (@ 3440x1440) so...
Was thinking about the 3900x, but the 3700x looks just as good, and im only a gamer (@ 3440x1440) so...
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So no one answered me because no one knows for sure, but what do you guys think are the odds are that MSI will update their X470 boards when Zen 2+ rolls around? Has MSI been known to be good with updates in the past? That and there is going to be a Zen 2+ right?
HH your hard work paid off, excellent review.
These chips are excellent, the OC is disappointing but for the price, great cpus.
Guru3D is the first place I check for reviews on product launch. Every product I've bought based on Hilbert's reviews has always delivered exactly what he wrote, except in the case where Gigabyte pulled a fast one with a bait and switch "revision", but that's obviously not the reviewer's fault. They swapped the VRAM on the GTX 970 for crap resulting in a minimum of 1GHz lost IIRC. I didn't know at the time Gigabyte do that with revisions of their gear.
That I like the structure of the reviews here better than anywhere else. Clean/clear, and to the point.
So no one answered me because no one knows for sure, but what do you guys think are the odds are that MSI will update their X470 boards when Zen 2+ rolls around? Has MSI been known to be good with updates in the past? That and there is going to be a Zen 2+ right?
HH your hard work paid off, excellent review.
These chips are excellent, the OC is disappointing but for the price, great cpus.
Guru3D is the first place I check for reviews on product launch. Every product I've bought based on Hilbert's reviews has always delivered exactly what he wrote, except in the case where Gigabyte pulled a fast one with a bait and switch "revision", but that's obviously not the reviewer's fault. They swapped the VRAM on the GTX 970 for crap resulting in a minimum of 1GHz lost IIRC. I didn't know at the time Gigabyte do that with revisions of their gear.
That I like the structure of the reviews here better than anywhere else. Clean/clear, and to the point.
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Posted on: 07/07/2019 08:04 PM
I had both an i7 3770K and an i7 4790K with a 4K Monitor and it was a noticeable improvement for me just going to a first gen Ryzen 1700X CPU --- the Ryzen 3700X should be a total arse kicking upgrade for you.
Thanks! I think moving away from quad core is my main goal. I've seen some massive drops and nearly outright freezes in games like BFV that just brings the action to a halt accompanied by extreme CPU spikes in my Afterburner monitoring. With all the IPC gains made by AMD since my 4790K was released I think I'm probably looking at better performance all around with something like a 3700X. The price of the 3700X is super attractive too. I'll probably wait to see reviews on the rest of the 3000 lineup, but I'll probably be picking up an AMD CPU this year regardless.
I had both an i7 3770K and an i7 4790K with a 4K Monitor and it was a noticeable improvement for me just going to a first gen Ryzen 1700X CPU --- the Ryzen 3700X should be a total arse kicking upgrade for you.
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That's to be expected, but it's only theoretically on the Devs mainstream dashboards.
Nevertheless, AMD brought mainstream 8 cores for us all, it's only natural that software follows the new mainstream hardware trend.