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AMD Ryzen 5 3400G review
Posted by: on: 08/05/2019 10:16 AM [
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Vega11 based desktop APUs from AMD are here, in this review we take the Ryzen 5 3400G for a spin. AMD has been going strong with their processors, and now increases their market validity by adding a series of processors that have built-in graphics capabilities, APUs.
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D3M1G0D
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Posted on: 08/06/2019 03:25 PM
I really dislike how AMD messes up the generation numbers with Ryzen APUs. A typical consumer could buy this chip thinking that it's like any other 3000-series CPU when it's actually a binned last-gen product. Having to wait until next year for a Zen 2 APU (with Navi) is also not ideal - you'd think a chiplet design would allow more flexibility here.
I really dislike how AMD messes up the generation numbers with Ryzen APUs. A typical consumer could buy this chip thinking that it's like any other 3000-series CPU when it's actually a binned last-gen product. Having to wait until next year for a Zen 2 APU (with Navi) is also not ideal - you'd think a chiplet design would allow more flexibility here.
icedman
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Posted on: 08/07/2019 07:54 AM
hey hilbert i noticed these run at 1400mhz on the igpu does that mean these don't have that dead zone between 1350 and 1450 that the 2200g and 2400g had. mine is stuck at either 1300mhz or i have to go up to 1500mhz nothing in between works on mine not that its a big deal it works well at 1500mhz.
hey hilbert i noticed these run at 1400mhz on the igpu does that mean these don't have that dead zone between 1350 and 1450 that the 2200g and 2400g had. mine is stuck at either 1300mhz or i have to go up to 1500mhz nothing in between works on mine not that its a big deal it works well at 1500mhz.
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Posted on: 08/07/2019 02:39 PM
Waiting for the ACTUAL Zen-2 APUs with 8 cores and a decent IGP stuck on there.
Waiting for the ACTUAL Zen-2 APUs with 8 cores and a decent IGP stuck on there.
Fox2232
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Posted on: 08/07/2019 03:05 PM
I think that APU with 4C/8T Zen2 and Navi with 8 WGPs would be great entry gaming chip for 1080p. And would win in notebooks. In up to 25W.
High-End APU with 6C/12T Zen2 and Navi with 12 WGPs would just smash 1080p at good details, but it would likely need onboard HBM for iGPU. This would win in up to 45~65W notebooks just due to size.
Apparently, on desktops, higher grade APUs will have to wait for DDR5 even while Navi made improvements in GPU performance vs. required memory bandwidth.
And AMD is about to improve that. Then their I/O die becomes fully enabled chipset. Form Factor will shift.
Funny thing is that it reminds me of Raja Koduri, who after joining intel stated that AMD does not have eco system, software, roadmap, ...
Waiting for the ACTUAL Zen-2 APUs with 8 cores and a decent IGP stuck on there.
I think that APU with 4C/8T Zen2 and Navi with 8 WGPs would be great entry gaming chip for 1080p. And would win in notebooks. In up to 25W.
High-End APU with 6C/12T Zen2 and Navi with 12 WGPs would just smash 1080p at good details, but it would likely need onboard HBM for iGPU. This would win in up to 45~65W notebooks just due to size.
Apparently, on desktops, higher grade APUs will have to wait for DDR5 even while Navi made improvements in GPU performance vs. required memory bandwidth.
And AMD is about to improve that. Then their I/O die becomes fully enabled chipset. Form Factor will shift.
Funny thing is that it reminds me of Raja Koduri, who after joining intel stated that AMD does not have eco system, software, roadmap, ...
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I was mostly curious about the igpu and ram overclock potential seeing as the graphics is by far the limiting factor of these chips. Currently I have my 2400g underclocked and undervolted to 3.4ghz with the memory and igpu overclocked and GPU is still the limiter of the system.