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AMD FX 8370 and 8370E processor review
Posted by: on: 09/02/2014 12:57 PM [
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We review the AMD FX 8370 and 8370E processor today. You guys have been hearing the magic word 'Vishera' for a while now and it is the codename for the Piledriver core based FX series processors from AMD. The CPU tested today has eight physical CPU cores, it will have a base clock of 4000 MHz, and can Turbo towards 4200. And that makes the FX series a multi-threaded high frequency monster. You can read our review right here at Guru3D of course.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 01:04 PM
Ehm, none whatsoever.
So not much point upgrading from the 8350 then
Ehm, none whatsoever.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 04:03 PM
No Offence intended oh Great Hilbert Hagedoorn
But those Graphs on the Dedicated gpu tests are horrible and it mite just be myself and my friend but there a bit hard to understand due to been Color blind and having poor eyesight.
Back on topic sadly not anything special but hoping these make other FX chips cheaper here for when i do builds for friends.
No Offence intended oh Great Hilbert Hagedoorn
But those Graphs on the Dedicated gpu tests are horrible and it mite just be myself and my friend but there a bit hard to understand due to been Color blind and having poor eyesight.
Back on topic sadly not anything special but hoping these make other FX chips cheaper here for when i do builds for friends.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 04:36 PM
AMD would really benefit from having the full NB on board I think nowadays, and a move towards something other than the module-based architecture. With any luck, we'll see some new high end stuff out of them soon, but I really wanna give one of the Kaveri chips a go when I get some spare cash.
AMD would really benefit from having the full NB on board I think nowadays, and a move towards something other than the module-based architecture. With any luck, we'll see some new high end stuff out of them soon, but I really wanna give one of the Kaveri chips a go when I get some spare cash.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 05:35 PM
On a related note intel rereleases x58 tomorrow.
On a related note intel rereleases x58 tomorrow.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 06:51 PM
Although there's really nothing new here that couldn't be achieved by playing with the clocks on the previous CPUs yourself, I'm still pleased as the price reductions will mean I can upgrade my FX 6100 soon.
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
No new chips or pricing seem to have appeared on any UK sites I have checked but cclonline.com have the FX 9590 on sale for just under £160 so that may be what I go for when the time comes if the price is still the same.
My motherboard may struggle with the 220W requirement (MSI 990FXA-GD65) but my H80 should cope if I turn up the noise a bit.
Although there's really nothing new here that couldn't be achieved by playing with the clocks on the previous CPUs yourself, I'm still pleased as the price reductions will mean I can upgrade my FX 6100 soon.
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
No new chips or pricing seem to have appeared on any UK sites I have checked but cclonline.com have the FX 9590 on sale for just under £160 so that may be what I go for when the time comes if the price is still the same.
My motherboard may struggle with the 220W requirement (MSI 990FXA-GD65) but my H80 should cope if I turn up the noise a bit.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 07:01 PM
How does these compare to other AMD Fx's? Wondering as the first thing i noticed is the MASSIVE improvement in memory bandwidth around 70% increase compared to the older ones. So these are clearly using a newer stepping and has some modifications.
How does these compare to other AMD Fx's? Wondering as the first thing i noticed is the MASSIVE improvement in memory bandwidth around 70% increase compared to the older ones. So these are clearly using a newer stepping and has some modifications.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 07:03 PM
Although there's really nothing new here that couldn't be achieved by playing with the clocks on the previous CPUs yourself, I'm still pleased as the price reductions will mean I can upgrade my FX 6100 soon.
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
No new chips or pricing seem to have appeared on any UK sites I have checked but cclonline.com have the FX 9590 on sale for just under £160 so that may be what I go for when the time comes if the price is still the same.
My motherboard may struggle with the 220W requirement (MSI 990FXA-GD65) but my H80 should cope if I turn up the noise a bit.
Overclockers has them.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1967&subid=1825
Although there's really nothing new here that couldn't be achieved by playing with the clocks on the previous CPUs yourself, I'm still pleased as the price reductions will mean I can upgrade my FX 6100 soon.
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
No new chips or pricing seem to have appeared on any UK sites I have checked but cclonline.com have the FX 9590 on sale for just under £160 so that may be what I go for when the time comes if the price is still the same.
My motherboard may struggle with the 220W requirement (MSI 990FXA-GD65) but my H80 should cope if I turn up the noise a bit.
Overclockers has them.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1967&subid=1825
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 07:37 PM
Overclockers has them.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1967&subid=1825
Thanks, looks like the prices for the 8320 and 8350 are pretty much unchanged though
I don't check overclockers much these days but I used to use them all the time when I had a company car with free fuel so I could go pick stuff up from them. Now I tend to use aria and ebuyer.
Overclockers has them.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1967&subid=1825
Thanks, looks like the prices for the 8320 and 8350 are pretty much unchanged though
I don't check overclockers much these days but I used to use them all the time when I had a company car with free fuel so I could go pick stuff up from them. Now I tend to use aria and ebuyer.
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 09:48 PM
Here's your second chance at a Netburst-like expierence - AMD for the last decade
Here's your second chance at a Netburst-like expierence - AMD for the last decade
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Posted on: 09/02/2014 10:50 PM
I thought forsure you would be able to hit 4.9 with this processor... They are supposed to OC alittle better then a 8350.. 4.7 is a good number though if you are using air or there included AIO. Good review.
One thing about these processors is the how much you tweak the Northbridge, and if your doing sli upping the HT ups the bandwith to help with bottle necking.. I need to really get an Intel system going to compare..
Anyways if you have a lower budget this is the way to to go..
I thought forsure you would be able to hit 4.9 with this processor... They are supposed to OC alittle better then a 8350.. 4.7 is a good number though if you are using air or there included AIO. Good review.
One thing about these processors is the how much you tweak the Northbridge, and if your doing sli upping the HT ups the bandwith to help with bottle necking.. I need to really get an Intel system going to compare..
Anyways if you have a lower budget this is the way to to go..
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Posted on: 09/03/2014 12:17 AM
If you push both HT and NB to 2600MHz you'll get much better performance memory wise
If you push both HT and NB to 2600MHz you'll get much better performance memory wise
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Posted on: 09/03/2014 02:25 AM
Got 5GHz and HT to 2800MHz out of my processor and Ram at 2400MHz.
If you push both HT and NB to 2600MHz you'll get much better performance memory wise
Got 5GHz and HT to 2800MHz out of my processor and Ram at 2400MHz.
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Posted on: 09/03/2014 08:14 AM
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
Stilt disagrees!!! He just set a new record with 8 cores @8722mhz
It doesn't look like the new chips overclock any better so it will probably still be best to save money and go for the 8320.
Stilt disagrees!!! He just set a new record with 8 cores @8722mhz
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Posted on: 09/03/2014 02:58 PM
I have a feeling AMD has a stack full of AM3+ CPUs that haven't been released but are intentionally put on hold every time intel decides to release something. AMD probably knows these chips aren't really worth anyone's interest, but as long as they keep releasing them, they remind people "hey BTW, I still exist and I'm still kicking". In other words, as long as intel doesn't get 100% attention every time they release a new product, AMD will still be fresh in people's minds, hopefully long enough until they release something worth the attention.
I have a feeling AMD has a stack full of AM3+ CPUs that haven't been released but are intentionally put on hold every time intel decides to release something. AMD probably knows these chips aren't really worth anyone's interest, but as long as they keep releasing them, they remind people "hey BTW, I still exist and I'm still kicking". In other words, as long as intel doesn't get 100% attention every time they release a new product, AMD will still be fresh in people's minds, hopefully long enough until they release something worth the attention.
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Posted on: 09/03/2014 04:32 PM
L3 cache latency looks improved by 100%.
L3 cache latency looks improved by 100%.
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Posted on: 09/04/2014 07:01 AM
They are still piles of crap when compared to Intel.. Why oh why did I not go Intel when I had 5 grand to burn. I hadn't been into gaming for quite awhile and out of the PC loop. I didn't do any homework when I made my purchase. I had no idea that Intel was so far ahead at the time. I just figured I'd get a fast AMD chip and it would be close to the Intel chip in its price range. Boy was I ever wrong! Yeah I can still play my games at 1080p with no lag but still, I know I made a huge mistake. When I get some extra cash, I am dumping AMD for good. Screw their CPU's and GPU's.. I am more angry with myself, not AMD. Its not their fault I was an idiot for buying their junk.
They are still piles of crap when compared to Intel.. Why oh why did I not go Intel when I had 5 grand to burn. I hadn't been into gaming for quite awhile and out of the PC loop. I didn't do any homework when I made my purchase. I had no idea that Intel was so far ahead at the time. I just figured I'd get a fast AMD chip and it would be close to the Intel chip in its price range. Boy was I ever wrong! Yeah I can still play my games at 1080p with no lag but still, I know I made a huge mistake. When I get some extra cash, I am dumping AMD for good. Screw their CPU's and GPU's.. I am more angry with myself, not AMD. Its not their fault I was an idiot for buying their junk.
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Posted on: 09/04/2014 06:58 PM
So.... you don't keep up with PC stuff lately (and therefore don't have a need to upgrade), you had 5 grand to spend but you didn't even opt for AMD's highest-end product, you acknowledge your CPU keeps up just fine with your tasks, you bought into something that you SHOULD have known was already inferior during the release date, and yet you still complain. I too would be angry with myself in your shoes - that's a big chain of easily preventable scenarios.
They are still piles of crap when compared to Intel.. Why oh why did I not go Intel when I had 5 grand to burn. I hadn't been into gaming for quite awhile and out of the PC loop. I didn't do any homework when I made my purchase. I had no idea that Intel was so far ahead at the time. I just figured I'd get a fast AMD chip and it would be close to the Intel chip in its price range. Boy was I ever wrong! Yeah I can still play my games at 1080p with no lag but still, I know I made a huge mistake. When I get some extra cash, I am dumping AMD for good. Screw their CPU's and GPU's.. I am more angry with myself, not AMD. Its not their fault I was an idiot for buying their junk.
So.... you don't keep up with PC stuff lately (and therefore don't have a need to upgrade), you had 5 grand to spend but you didn't even opt for AMD's highest-end product, you acknowledge your CPU keeps up just fine with your tasks, you bought into something that you SHOULD have known was already inferior during the release date, and yet you still complain. I too would be angry with myself in your shoes - that's a big chain of easily preventable scenarios.
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Posted on: 09/04/2014 07:47 PM
Nothing wrong with their GPU's tbh. Buying ATI was probably one of the best things they did, considering how they're slacking behind Intel now.
I am dumping AMD for good. Screw their CPU's and GPU's.. I am more angry with myself, not AMD. Its not their fault I was an idiot for buying their junk.
Nothing wrong with their GPU's tbh. Buying ATI was probably one of the best things they did, considering how they're slacking behind Intel now.
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Posted on: 09/04/2014 07:48 PM
I must be dim i don't understand what solo is going on about he says that the stuff plays without lag and does everything he needs it to yet is angry because it's not intel?
I must be dim i don't understand what solo is going on about he says that the stuff plays without lag and does everything he needs it to yet is angry because it's not intel?
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So not much point upgrading from the 8350 then