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Addlink S70 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD review
Posted by: on: 10/18/2019 06:23 PM [
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How good (or bad) is a 110 M2 SSD bought from Amazon? We received an email from Addlink claiming they offer an SSD (Addlink S70 1TB NVMe PCIe 3x4 SSD) that often gets compared to fast as Samsung EVO 970's nightmare in relation the price of just 114 USD for 1TB.
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IchimA
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Posted on: 10/18/2019 08:51 PM
Fast ... but what about durable !? How will they handle warranty if it will brake after a year or two ! ... Also, how it will handle data when let's say 90% is full .
I will keep an eye for this as the price is really good but thinking about it a corsair MP510 960 Gb is 150 euro. you lose 40 GB , but what you gain ?
Fast ... but what about durable !? How will they handle warranty if it will brake after a year or two ! ... Also, how it will handle data when let's say 90% is full .
I will keep an eye for this as the price is really good but thinking about it a corsair MP510 960 Gb is 150 euro. you lose 40 GB , but what you gain ?
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Posted on: 10/18/2019 08:55 PM
theres actually another one even cheaper than that one, but not sure how it performs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=psdc-430505031-t1-B07PM347GV
theres actually another one even cheaper than that one, but not sure how it performs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=psdc-430505031-t1-B07PM347GV
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Posted on: 10/18/2019 09:06 PM
I think comparably sized 970 Evo Plus have a slightly larger dynamic SLC cache, but apart from that I think these drives are at least as fast if not faster from the data I've seen. Note I mention the Evo Plus, because I think these drives are better in every way than the plain 970 Evo, but the Evo 970 Plus is a little faster for big file transfers. You only really need the larger SLC cache if you're transferring massive files all the time - larger than 27GB. I've got an E12 Phison drive (they come under loads of brand names) and I've got the 1TB Sabrent Rocket, and just like this drive shown in this review the transfer speed drops after 27GB, but it only drops to 1GB/s sustained, and I don't transfer large files so it makes no difference. These Phison E12 drives are cheaper and faster than 970 Evo, and comparable to 970 Evo Plus. I see no point in buying overpriced Samsung drives as a consumer, I'd rather support the underdog, save some bucks, and feel like I'm a winner!
@insp1re2600 , I've got that drive and I mentioned it in the previous paragraph of this post.
I think comparably sized 970 Evo Plus have a slightly larger dynamic SLC cache, but apart from that I think these drives are at least as fast if not faster from the data I've seen. Note I mention the Evo Plus, because I think these drives are better in every way than the plain 970 Evo, but the Evo 970 Plus is a little faster for big file transfers. You only really need the larger SLC cache if you're transferring massive files all the time - larger than 27GB. I've got an E12 Phison drive (they come under loads of brand names) and I've got the 1TB Sabrent Rocket, and just like this drive shown in this review the transfer speed drops after 27GB, but it only drops to 1GB/s sustained, and I don't transfer large files so it makes no difference. These Phison E12 drives are cheaper and faster than 970 Evo, and comparable to 970 Evo Plus. I see no point in buying overpriced Samsung drives as a consumer, I'd rather support the underdog, save some bucks, and feel like I'm a winner!
@insp1re2600 , I've got that drive and I mentioned it in the previous paragraph of this post.
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 10:11 AM
Another great review - cheers!
Very impressive drive for the price and one I'll definitely keep in mind for a new AMD build next month. HDD storage replacement is progressing well. What we need now, particularly for boot drives, is real progress in lowering QD1 speeds with much better pricing (i.e. not Optane level).
Another great review - cheers!
Very impressive drive for the price and one I'll definitely keep in mind for a new AMD build next month. HDD storage replacement is progressing well. What we need now, particularly for boot drives, is real progress in lowering QD1 speeds with much better pricing (i.e. not Optane level).
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 11:03 AM
Just ordered some of this a day ago, https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-1-0TB-80mm-978350/dp/B07GCL6BR4/ref=sr-1-2?keywords=Intel+nvme+660&qid=1571479285&sr=8-2
Intel nvme - good product history and 99 flat amazon's choice atm...
EDIT: that 3400 MB/s is nice tho, perhaps I'll return my orders for two of those...never heard of that brand tho
It's number #10 on the Passmark leaderboard, https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/ssd.html (the addlink)
Just ordered some of this a day ago, https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-1-0TB-80mm-978350/dp/B07GCL6BR4/ref=sr-1-2?keywords=Intel+nvme+660&qid=1571479285&sr=8-2
Intel nvme - good product history and 99 flat amazon's choice atm...
EDIT: that 3400 MB/s is nice tho, perhaps I'll return my orders for two of those...never heard of that brand tho
It's number #10 on the Passmark leaderboard, https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/ssd.html (the addlink)
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 11:04 AM
theres actually another one even cheaper than that one, but not sure how it performs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=psdc-430505031-t1-B07PM347GV
I've got the 512GB version, sequential write speed is a bit low but I've currently no complaints
CrystalDiskMark 6.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes
Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 3473.051 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2287.063 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T=
: 1228.736 MB/s
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= : 1754.341 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 608.682 MB/s
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 525.702 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 55.381 MB/s
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 216.790 MB/s
Test : 1024 MiB (x5)
Date : 2019/08/17 14:08:34
OS : Windows 10 Professional (x64)
theres actually another one even cheaper than that one, but not sure how it performs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=psdc-430505031-t1-B07PM347GV
I've got the 512GB version, sequential write speed is a bit low but I've currently no complaints
CrystalDiskMark 6.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes
Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 3473.051 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2287.063 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T=
: 1228.736 MB/s Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T=
: 1754.341 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 608.682 MB/s
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 525.702 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 55.381 MB/s
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 216.790 MB/s
Test : 1024 MiB (x5)
Date : 2019/08/17 14:08:34
OS : Windows 10 Professional (x64)
sykozis
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 03:26 PM
Just ordered some of this a day ago, https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-1-0TB-80mm-978350/dp/B07GCL6BR4/ref=sr-1-2?keywords=Intel+nvme+660&qid=1571479285&sr=8-2
Intel nvme - good product history and 99 flat amazon's choice atm...
EDIT: that 3400 MB/s is nice tho, perhaps I'll return my orders for two of those...never heard of that brand tho
It's number #10 on the Passmark leaderboard, https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/ssd.html (the addlink)
I ordered that same Intel drive this past Monday. It was $89.99 USD on Newegg.
I'm not really concerned so much with the speed. I just needed a larger drive and the price for the Intel 1TB drive was hard to argue with. I may have to pickup this Addlink or the Sabrent drive later though.
Just ordered some of this a day ago, https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-1-0TB-80mm-978350/dp/B07GCL6BR4/ref=sr-1-2?keywords=Intel+nvme+660&qid=1571479285&sr=8-2
Intel nvme - good product history and 99 flat amazon's choice atm...
EDIT: that 3400 MB/s is nice tho, perhaps I'll return my orders for two of those...never heard of that brand tho
It's number #10 on the Passmark leaderboard, https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/ssd.html (the addlink)
I ordered that same Intel drive this past Monday. It was $89.99 USD on Newegg.
I'm not really concerned so much with the speed. I just needed a larger drive and the price for the Intel 1TB drive was hard to argue with. I may have to pickup this Addlink or the Sabrent drive later though.
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 05:02 PM
I ordered that same Intel drive this past Monday. It was $89.99 USD on Newegg.
I'm not really concerned so much with the speed. I just needed a larger drive and the price for the Intel 1TB drive was hard to argue with. I may have to pickup this Addlink or the Sabrent drive later though.
Yes, and for memory/SSDs I've usually gone with brands ... although Addlink appears to be sourcing a good controller & memory. Both of which have been deployed en mass' for a few years now if I'm not mistaken.
Controller preview- https://www.anandtech.com/show/13338/phison-ps5012e12-controller-in-mass-production
NAND from Toshiba - https://www.anandtech.com/show/11142/toshiba-samples-64layer-512-gb-bics-3d-nand
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of returning both 1TB's I just went through the trouble of ordering and re ordering ... *shrugs* these are actually really good SSDs. I'll think on it.
I ordered that same Intel drive this past Monday. It was $89.99 USD on Newegg.
I'm not really concerned so much with the speed. I just needed a larger drive and the price for the Intel 1TB drive was hard to argue with. I may have to pickup this Addlink or the Sabrent drive later though.
Yes, and for memory/SSDs I've usually gone with brands ... although Addlink appears to be sourcing a good controller & memory. Both of which have been deployed en mass' for a few years now if I'm not mistaken.
Controller preview- https://www.anandtech.com/show/13338/phison-ps5012e12-controller-in-mass-production
NAND from Toshiba - https://www.anandtech.com/show/11142/toshiba-samples-64layer-512-gb-bics-3d-nand
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of returning both 1TB's I just went through the trouble of ordering and re ordering ... *shrugs* these are actually really good SSDs. I'll think on it.
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Posted on: 10/19/2019 07:17 PM
There's an 2TB version of it, too. Might be worth considering. One of my three M.2 slots is free still.
There's an 2TB version of it, too. Might be worth considering. One of my three M.2 slots is free still.
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Posted on: 10/20/2019 02:42 AM
Its not like these (or other "no name" brands) are made by a asian grandpa in the backyard.
So far, all the ones i looked at are using same pcb/controller/chips from a handful of companies, and i dont care if they only have 2 or 3y warranty.
if they die, the data is still gone, and i would rather a more up to date drive after that kind of time.
Haven't tried to figure out if its a samsung or crucial/toshiba drive, but lools like its the first one, uses a phison controller and is faster than my 960...
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PB5C36M?psc=1&ref=ppx-pop-mob-b-asin-title
Its not like these (or other "no name" brands) are made by a asian grandpa in the backyard.
So far, all the ones i looked at are using same pcb/controller/chips from a handful of companies, and i dont care if they only have 2 or 3y warranty.
if they die, the data is still gone, and i would rather a more up to date drive after that kind of time.
Haven't tried to figure out if its a samsung or crucial/toshiba drive, but lools like its the first one, uses a phison controller and is faster than my 960...
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PB5C36M?psc=1&ref=ppx-pop-mob-b-asin-title
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 09:41 AM
Looks like a good deal.
In EU you can find it around ~130€ on german amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07PM347GV
They're all the same silicon parts after all... only thing that changes is the sticker and warranty service (hopefully you won't need)
Looks like a good deal.
In EU you can find it around ~130€ on german amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07PM347GV
They're all the same silicon parts after all... only thing that changes is the sticker and warranty service (hopefully you won't need)
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 10:22 AM
Seems like a great choice. Btw. the comments on the main page does not seem to work for this review.
Seems like a great choice. Btw. the comments on the main page does not seem to work for this review.
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 10:37 AM
As somebody who's still rather comfortable with SATA3 SSDs in my rig, this might be a good alternative for my next one that will follow next year. Thanks for the review Hilbert
As somebody who's still rather comfortable with SATA3 SSDs in my rig, this might be a good alternative for my next one that will follow next year. Thanks for the review Hilbert
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 02:42 PM
https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07TD45T6B?th=1 doesn't look to bad either, and ships with a 5 years warranty.
https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07TD45T6B?th=1 doesn't look to bad either, and ships with a 5 years warranty.
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 03:59 PM
Nice review, will be getting a budget 2gb SSD at some point to put my games on (now some are getting to 150gb!!). Obviously no one should be looking at buying just yet if they can help it with black Friday/cyber Monday coming up.
Nice review, will be getting a budget 2gb SSD at some point to put my games on (now some are getting to 150gb!!). Obviously no one should be looking at buying just yet if they can help it with black Friday/cyber Monday coming up.
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 04:15 PM
Its not like these (or other "no name" brands) are made by a asian grandpa in the backyard.
So far, the ones i looked at are using same pcb/controller/chips, and i dont care if they only have 2 or 3y warranty, if they die the data is still gone, and i would rather a more up to date drive after that kind of time.
Haven't tried to figure out if its a samsung or crucial/toshiba drive, but lools like its the first one, uses a phison controller and is faster than my 960...
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PB5C36M?psc=1&ref=ppx-pop-mob-b-asin-title
It's all in Mr. Hagedoorn's article and I posted what you asked about in a response with previews for the controller and NAND
Its not like these (or other "no name" brands) are made by a asian grandpa in the backyard.
So far, the ones i looked at are using same pcb/controller/chips, and i dont care if they only have 2 or 3y warranty, if they die the data is still gone, and i would rather a more up to date drive after that kind of time.
Haven't tried to figure out if its a samsung or crucial/toshiba drive, but lools like its the first one, uses a phison controller and is faster than my 960...
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PB5C36M?psc=1&ref=ppx-pop-mob-b-asin-title
It's all in Mr. Hagedoorn's article and I posted what you asked about in a response with previews for the controller and NAND
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Posted on: 10/21/2019 04:22 PM
Never asked anything
, just stated things (maybe the obvious),
and i dont own the tested drive, so parts will not be the same (mine could be crucial/samsung based).
There are more brands than just samsung, doing good performing drives,
and im getting tired of paying twice what others are charging just because its a samsung drive
(and no other differences outside warranty).
Never asked anything
, just stated things (maybe the obvious),and i dont own the tested drive, so parts will not be the same (mine could be crucial/samsung based).
There are more brands than just samsung, doing good performing drives,
and im getting tired of paying twice what others are charging just because its a samsung drive
(and no other differences outside warranty).
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 04:03 AM
Yes, and for memory/SSDs I've usually gone with brands ... although Addlink appears to be sourcing a good controller & memory. Both of which have been deployed en mass' for a few years now if I'm not mistaken.
Controller preview- https://www.anandtech.com/show/13338/phison-ps5012e12-controller-in-mass-production
NAND from Toshiba - https://www.anandtech.com/show/11142/toshiba-samples-64layer-512-gb-bics-3d-nand
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of returning both 1TB's I just went through the trouble of ordering and re ordering ... *shrugs* these are actually really good SSDs. I'll think on it.
I just spent the last couple hours trying to get my system to boot with the 660P installed. Even though MSI says my B350 Tomahawk supports NVMe, and despite the board recognizing the drive, it won't boot from it. Really disappointing. I may have to give one of these drives a shot sooner and see if maybe it'll work better.
Yes, and for memory/SSDs I've usually gone with brands ... although Addlink appears to be sourcing a good controller & memory. Both of which have been deployed en mass' for a few years now if I'm not mistaken.
Controller preview- https://www.anandtech.com/show/13338/phison-ps5012e12-controller-in-mass-production
NAND from Toshiba - https://www.anandtech.com/show/11142/toshiba-samples-64layer-512-gb-bics-3d-nand
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of returning both 1TB's I just went through the trouble of ordering and re ordering ... *shrugs* these are actually really good SSDs. I'll think on it.
I just spent the last couple hours trying to get my system to boot with the 660P installed. Even though MSI says my B350 Tomahawk supports NVMe, and despite the board recognizing the drive, it won't boot from it. Really disappointing. I may have to give one of these drives a shot sooner and see if maybe it'll work better.
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 05:31 AM
I just spent the last couple hours trying to get my system to boot with the 660P installed. Even though MSI says my B350 Tomahawk supports NVMe, and despite the board recognizing the drive, it won't boot from it. Really disappointing. I may have to give one of these drives a shot sooner and see if maybe it'll work better.
Uh oh! I literally have mine on the desk besides me with a documentary running as I speak er um well type; I'm preparing to install it paired with a Mushkin 1TB NVME kit for RAID. I really hope I don't have similar issues and yours is an isolated incident. 
(I'm just one step up from ya - B450)
(I'm just one step up from ya - B450)
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 06:39 AM
Hopefully your luck is better than mine. If I have to, I'll just keep it as a storage drive until my next upgrade. Right now it's handling my pagefile.
Uh oh! I literally have mine on the desk besides me with a documentary running as I speak er um well type; I'm preparing to install it paired with a Mushkin 1TB NVME kit for RAID. I really hope I don't have similar issues and yours is an isolated incident. (I'm just one step up from ya - B450)
(I'm just one step up from ya - B450)Hopefully your luck is better than mine. If I have to, I'll just keep it as a storage drive until my next upgrade. Right now it's handling my pagefile.
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 10:40 AM
Fresh install? Have you tried both MBR and GPT to initialize the disk?
I just spent the last couple hours trying to get my system to boot with the 660P installed. Even though MSI says my B350 Tomahawk supports NVMe, and despite the board recognizing the drive, it won't boot from it. Really disappointing. I may have to give one of these drives a shot sooner and see if maybe it'll work better.
Fresh install? Have you tried both MBR and GPT to initialize the disk?
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 04:51 PM
bios set to uefi/win installed that way? using the 1903 build?
bios set to uefi/win installed that way? using the 1903 build?
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 11:03 PM
Not yet. I tried cloning the MX300 to the 660P. I planned to try a clean install over the weekend. When I installed the MX300, I simply cloned the Crucial M4 that it replaced. I was hoping the same approach would work again.
Yes and Yes. UEFI sees the drive. It just won't let me boot from it. It may have been a failed cloning attempt, a compatibility issue, a UEFI issue or just an issue with Windows bootloader itself. I'll find out for certain next weekend. It's really time for a clean install anyway. All the important stuff is already on a separate drive anyway.
Fresh install? Have you tried both MBR and GPT to initialize the disk?
Not yet. I tried cloning the MX300 to the 660P. I planned to try a clean install over the weekend. When I installed the MX300, I simply cloned the Crucial M4 that it replaced. I was hoping the same approach would work again.
bios set to uefi/win installed that way? using the 1903 build?
Yes and Yes. UEFI sees the drive. It just won't let me boot from it. It may have been a failed cloning attempt, a compatibility issue, a UEFI issue or just an issue with Windows bootloader itself. I'll find out for certain next weekend. It's really time for a clean install anyway. All the important stuff is already on a separate drive anyway.
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Posted on: 10/22/2019 11:47 PM
Looks like a good deal.
In EU you can find it around ~130€ on german amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07PM347GV
They're all the same silicon parts after all... only thing that changes is the sticker and warranty service (hopefully you won't need)
UK Amazon has the Sabrent Rocket 1TB for £109.99 with free delivery.
Same 5 yr warranty.
Get it while the EU still exists :p
Looks like a good deal.
In EU you can find it around ~130€ on german amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Addlink-Gen3x4-3400MB-Hochleistungs-Interner/dp/B07PM347GV
They're all the same silicon parts after all... only thing that changes is the sticker and warranty service (hopefully you won't need)
UK Amazon has the Sabrent Rocket 1TB for £109.99 with free delivery.
Same 5 yr warranty.
Get it while the EU still exists :p
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I haven't studied the SSD prices for a year, but that looks pretty impressive with my year old knowledge. Of course I'd be inclined to hesitate a bit with a never heard of brand, but on the other hand, SSD tech is starting to be quite standard and nondescript these days, so who knows. SSDs have no intensely moving parts like the spinning HDDs, so in a certain sense you can achieve more with less internal engineering R&D at your specific company. You can just buy pretty much all the components from the same places everybody else does, unlike with the old HDDs where you had to manufacture the mechanical parts yourself (which is why there are/were only a few manufacturers).