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Wanna keep using Windows Live Messenger ?
Microsoft is forcing everyone to abandon Windows Live Messenger and move to Skype but a former Most Valuable Professional (MVP) from Microsoft's Messenger team has created a little tool that allows you to keep using Windows Live Messenger.
Named Messenger Reviver 2, the program installs, repairs and/or modifies Windows Live Messenger 2012, 2011, 2009, and 2008 as well as Windows Messenger to continue working despite being blocked by Microsoft. You can download Messenger Reviver , see link below.
You will receive one of the following messages if you’re being forced to upgrade to Skype: A newer version is available. You must install the newer version in order to continue. Would you like to do this now? A newer version has been downloaded and is available. You must install this newer version in order to continue. Would you like to do this now? To bypass the forced upgrade, download my Messenger Reviver 2 utility and run the application. As this requires changes to Messenger you may receive a message asking you to allow Reviver to make changes to your computer. Reviver will automatically attempt to detect if Messenger is still installed, which versions are eligible for modification and if you need to run a repair or new installation to bring Messenger back (if Skype has removed it).
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#4586747 Posted on: 04/29/2013 05:11 PM
Personally I don't think it's such a bad idea to ditch messenger. While I only had maybe 2 MSN contacts (both of which are accessible from my yahoo messenger account), I never used MS's messenger program anyway. With Skype having MSN messenger built-in, I don't see a need of having 2 different chat programs. The only crappy part is on Windows, Skype is severe bloatware. It's surprisingly clean and fast on every other platform, though not exactly the most feature-rich or reliable on Linux. In my case, I don't remember the last time I installed a chat program on Windows so the Windows Skype bloat isn't a personal issue.
Personally I don't think it's such a bad idea to ditch messenger. While I only had maybe 2 MSN contacts (both of which are accessible from my yahoo messenger account), I never used MS's messenger program anyway. With Skype having MSN messenger built-in, I don't see a need of having 2 different chat programs. The only crappy part is on Windows, Skype is severe bloatware. It's surprisingly clean and fast on every other platform, though not exactly the most feature-rich or reliable on Linux. In my case, I don't remember the last time I installed a chat program on Windows so the Windows Skype bloat isn't a personal issue.
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#4586759 Posted on: 04/29/2013 05:38 PM
not to mention that fact that windows 8 has messenger integrated. and also Facebook chat with it.
not to mention that fact that windows 8 has messenger integrated. and also Facebook chat with it.
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#4586767 Posted on: 04/29/2013 05:42 PM
I would happily transfer to Skype if Skype user interface wasn't as ugly as sin. Their smiley's are crap too. MSN messenger looked better. MS needs to work on the aesthetics before I ever convert.
I would happily transfer to Skype if Skype user interface wasn't as ugly as sin. Their smiley's are crap too. MSN messenger looked better. MS needs to work on the aesthetics before I ever convert.
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#4586781 Posted on: 04/29/2013 06:15 PM
Havn't used Messenger anymore for like 8 years. I got WoW as replacement.
Havn't used Messenger anymore for like 8 years. I got WoW as replacement.
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#4586784 Posted on: 04/29/2013 06:21 PM
lol i use vent
lol i use vent
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#4586825 Posted on: 04/29/2013 07:34 PM
WLM was good, especially once you patched it with the apatch patcher and got rid of the adverts etc. The issue with Skype is that it is ugly, and is missing many of the features that WLM has:
I've noticed (there are other things as well no doubt):
- can't add msn (non-skype contacts) in skype, you have to log in to hotmail and use the web messenger there, or another web-based messenger, to add msn contacts
- no longer is a new email reported. WLM has a little symbol that shows you how many new emails you have, and reports when you receive new emails if in the background
- sharing files and pictures isn't as easy
- haven't tried the group conversation feature (you can private chat to multiple people simultaneously in MSN by adding contacts to the conversation)
- aesthetically its terrible, although so is Windows 8 and Office 2013, so bad design must be Microsoft's new design direction
- the Windows 8 apps for messaging isn't that good either, and much more difficult to use as a background application like WLM or Skype
I have heard Windows 8 app messenger is missing many features as well. Can't use Windows apps anyway, I disable LUA because it is a pain in the arse (apps are disabled with LUA disabled due to security reasons). Windows apps therefore should have a separate UAC system, which is obviously doable since it blocks you from running them if you have LUA disabled in the first place. That said, most Windows apps seem gimmicky, especially for desktop use, and like I said previously they seem quite inefficient space wise, they are obviously based on a poorly designed framework.
WLM was good, especially once you patched it with the apatch patcher and got rid of the adverts etc. The issue with Skype is that it is ugly, and is missing many of the features that WLM has:
I've noticed (there are other things as well no doubt):
- can't add msn (non-skype contacts) in skype, you have to log in to hotmail and use the web messenger there, or another web-based messenger, to add msn contacts
- no longer is a new email reported. WLM has a little symbol that shows you how many new emails you have, and reports when you receive new emails if in the background
- sharing files and pictures isn't as easy
- haven't tried the group conversation feature (you can private chat to multiple people simultaneously in MSN by adding contacts to the conversation)
- aesthetically its terrible, although so is Windows 8 and Office 2013, so bad design must be Microsoft's new design direction
- the Windows 8 apps for messaging isn't that good either, and much more difficult to use as a background application like WLM or Skype
I have heard Windows 8 app messenger is missing many features as well. Can't use Windows apps anyway, I disable LUA because it is a pain in the arse (apps are disabled with LUA disabled due to security reasons). Windows apps therefore should have a separate UAC system, which is obviously doable since it blocks you from running them if you have LUA disabled in the first place. That said, most Windows apps seem gimmicky, especially for desktop use, and like I said previously they seem quite inefficient space wise, they are obviously based on a poorly designed framework.
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#4586871 Posted on: 04/29/2013 08:42 PM
all i want in skype is easier photo/video sharing and at least a freaking "night mode" theme, it is a pain in the as$ to chat at 2am on my computer, and simply wlm 2011 is the best looking chat app i have ever seen, like a mix of aero design with metro transitions, amazing, thats the way w8 for x86 should look like, and let the plain flat metro for wp and RT where they look good too
all i want in skype is easier photo/video sharing and at least a freaking "night mode" theme, it is a pain in the as$ to chat at 2am on my computer, and simply wlm 2011 is the best looking chat app i have ever seen, like a mix of aero design with metro transitions, amazing, thats the way w8 for x86 should look like, and let the plain flat metro for wp and RT where they look good too
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#4586906 Posted on: 04/29/2013 09:42 PM
Last one I used was Windows Live Messenger v8.5, had to hack that to keep working after they tried to force WLM2009 on people. Used that till about 2010, then switched to Trillian (cross platform), then stopped using it altogether about mid 2012 as I didn't know anyone who still used it.
Last one I used was Windows Live Messenger v8.5, had to hack that to keep working after they tried to force WLM2009 on people. Used that till about 2010, then switched to Trillian (cross platform), then stopped using it altogether about mid 2012 as I didn't know anyone who still used it.
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#4586921 Posted on: 04/29/2013 10:20 PM
Moved on to facebook/google/whatsapp a long time ago anyway.
Moved on to facebook/google/whatsapp a long time ago anyway.
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#4586998 Posted on: 04/29/2013 11:48 PM
My messengers working fine still, im using v9 (i think), under windows XP compatability (which stopped the forced upgrade to v10), im always getting theres a new version available when i sign in, and im always getting theres a new version been downloaded, must install it to continue, but i always click no and start it up, as it still works fine
My messengers working fine still, im using v9 (i think), under windows XP compatability (which stopped the forced upgrade to v10), im always getting theres a new version available when i sign in, and im always getting theres a new version been downloaded, must install it to continue, but i always click no and start it up, as it still works fine
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#4587827 Posted on: 05/01/2013 10:54 AM
Well wouldn't let it work today, kept saying i had to install the new version to continue, so just used this reviver, and were back, works great.
Well wouldn't let it work today, kept saying i had to install the new version to continue, so just used this reviver, and were back, works great.
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thanks .. it works