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Radeon HD 8000 series won't arrive soon

Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/09/2013 08:54 AM | 32 comment(s) ]

AMD marketing manager Robert Hallock revealed on Twitter that the Radeon HD 7000 series will remain AMD's primary focus for quite some time. That somewhat confirms the rumors that AMD's next-gen graphics cards may not arrive until Q4 2013. More after the break.

At Twitter he posted:

@GunerSemih The HD 7000 Series will remain our primary focus for quite some time. ^RH

After asking for a more elaborate answer, the following message got out:

"Yes, I made that comment. I cannot say anything more than what I’ve already said, really. AMD and its partners are happy with the HD 7000 Series, and it will continue to be our emphasis in the channel for the foreseeable future. I should note that HD 8000 Series has never been so much as hinted at for a channel release. Anything to the contrary is an unsubstantiated rumor fabricated to drive traffic." - Robert Hallock

Now we 'could' see an official Radeon HD 7990 introduction in the coming weeks/months. But that again is a rumor.






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#4522699 Posted on: 02/09/2013 08:57 AM
Q4 2013 seriously.? Not that there exist games to surpass the strength of current enthusiast hardware, but it's so...well, pushed back.

Let's hope drivers are gonna catch perfection until then.

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#4522776 Posted on: 02/09/2013 11:33 AM
I doubt this. I a July-Sept. release time frame, if not March.

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#4522785 Posted on: 02/09/2013 12:05 PM
^
Yeah I think so too.


btw speaking of 7990 :)
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7990-dual-gpu.html

~ 850-900€

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#4522790 Posted on: 02/09/2013 12:18 PM
hmmm so the suggestion is both AMD and Nvidia have had their next gen cards pushed back. Wouldn't they want to get the new models out first so they can look better in benchmarks against the competition?

Hmmmm...

both AMD and Nvidia have their cards made at TSMC
both the Xbox Next and PS4 are rumoured to contain AMD GPU's
so, from the last point, you can deduce that Xbox Next and PS4 GPU's will be made at TSMC
both Microsoft and Sony want to have enough units to meet demand when they go on sale
the Xbox Next and PS4 GPU's will have a higher priority at TSMC
due to the demand for the Xbox Next GPU's and PS4 GPU's AMD and Nvidia GPU's are of a lower priority
AMD are okay with the lower priority because they get sales regardless through the console GPU's
Nvidia relents, it allows them more time to tweak their hardware
neither AMD or Nvidia want to admit this is the case
end result is, both next gen GPU architecture series are delayed


Yes, I did make that up, and no doubt it will be disagreed upon by many, many people, but if you actually look at it objectively, it does actually make sense!

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#4522801 Posted on: 02/09/2013 12:36 PM
^
Yeah I think so too.


btw speaking of 7990 :)
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7990-dual-gpu.html

~ 850-900€

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/AMD-Graphics-Card/RADEON-HD7000-Series/VTX3D-RADEON-HD-7990-6144-MB-DDR5-PCIe-30-Mini-DP-HDMI-DVI::20931.html

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#4522803 Posted on: 02/09/2013 12:38 PM
Bring on the 7990. ;)

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#4522825 Posted on: 02/09/2013 12:54 PM
hmmm so the suggestion is both AMD and Nvidia have had their next gen cards pushed back. Wouldn't they want to get the new models out first so they can look better in benchmarks against the competition?

Hmmmm...

both AMD and Nvidia have their cards made at TSMC
both the Xbox Next and PS4 are rumoured to contain AMD GPU's
so, from the last point, you can deduce that Xbox Next and PS4 GPU's will be made at TSMC
both Microsoft and Sony want to have enough units to meet demand when they go on sale
the Xbox Next and PS4 GPU's will have a higher priority at TSMC
due to the demand for the Xbox Next GPU's and PS4 GPU's AMD and Nvidia GPU's are of a lower priority
AMD are okay with the lower priority because they get sales regardless through the console GPU's
Nvidia relents, it allows them more time to tweak their hardware
neither AMD or Nvidia want to admit this is the case
end result is, both next gen GPU architecture series are delayed


Yes, I did make that up, and no doubt it will be disagreed upon by many, many people, but if you actually look at it objectively, it does actually make sense!
Orrrrrr they dont need to release refreshes as they already have beast cards. AMD has struck gold with its GCN architecture, and Nvidia have released a very power efficient architecture suitable for gaming.

Add to that the trend that the gap between generations of GPUs is about 2 years, give or take. Nvidia: GTX280, June 2008, GTX480, April 2010, GTX680, March 2012. AMD: HD4870, June 2008, HD5870, December 2009, HD7970, January 2012, and now, HD8xxx, possibly Q4 2013.

Of course, this wont be on 28nm if its not a refresh.

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#4522886 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:06 PM
Only just bought a 7950, so I'm happy that it will remain a flagship card for a few more months.

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#4522902 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:30 PM
it all depends on when nVidia will release their new card series. Hopefully rumours are correct and they are coming out later this month. That would be really good news for "Green Team"

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#4522910 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:39 PM
This news has really tempted me to buy a 7970 now!

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#4522914 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:44 PM
^
Yeah I think so too.


btw speaking of 7990 :)
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7990-dual-gpu.html

~ 850-900€

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/AMD-Graphics-Card/RADEON-HD7000-Series/VTX3D-RADEON-HD-7990-6144-MB-DDR5-PCIe-30-Mini-DP-HDMI-DVI::20931.html

Bring on the 7990. ;)

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-scanfx-radeon-hd-7990-5500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-900mhz-4096-cores-2x-dvi-hdmi-2x-mini-displayport

...in stock for a while now...

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#4522915 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:48 PM
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-scanfx-radeon-hd-7990-5500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-900mhz-4096-cores-2x-dvi-hdmi-2x-mini-displayport

...in stock for a while now...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Asus+HD+7990+ARES+2+6144MB&oq=Asus+HD+7990+ARES+2+6144MB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Asus+HD+7990+ARES+2+6144MB&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ei=LlgWUf2uMsa40QWs1IHwBQ&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42080656,d.d2k&fp=bcecddbdb6ca88b1&biw=1920&bih=989

Crazy price.

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#4522921 Posted on: 02/09/2013 02:53 PM
There are a few 7990's going about, i was looking at a £1200 7990 hybrid cooling one earlier, 1100mhz boost clocks that needed 3 x 8pin so crazy price and power usage, would be some card though.

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#4522989 Posted on: 02/09/2013 04:39 PM
I thinks it's good they're waiting, AMD hasn't been pushing the margin hard enough lately. The HD7000 series is what the HD6000 should've been, and from what I heard it seems that the HD8000 is mostly just a step up from the HD7000, so if waiting means it'll be better (even if just because of drivers) then great.

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#4523002 Posted on: 02/09/2013 04:47 PM
There's 7990 for sale now the powercolor for about $899 and an Asus Aires for well over $1000 bucks with funky cooling. They aren't reference design though iirc

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