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NVIDIA GPU marketshare increases as AMD and Intel drop
Jon Peddie Research published its Q3 2012 graphics chip report. The research firm found that NVIDIA gained 3.7% to 18.5% versus the second quarter, while AMD fell 1.5 percent to 21.2 percent and Intel dropped 2.4 percent to 59.8 percent. Full details after the break.
was terrific for Nvidia and disappointing for everyone the other major players. From Q2 to Q3 Intel slipped in both desktop (7%) and notebook (8.6%). AMD dropped (2%) in the desktop, and (17%) in notebooks. Nvidia gained 28.3% in desktop from quarter to quarter and jumped almost 12% in the notebook segment.
This was a not a very good quarter. The shipments were down -1.45% on a Qtr-Qtr basis, and -10.8% on a Yr-Yr basis. We found that graphics shipments during Q3’12 slipped from last quarter -1.5% as compared to PCs which grew slightly by 0.9% overall (however more GPU’s shipped than PCs due to double attach). GPUs are traditionally a leading indicator of the market, since a GPU goes into every system before it is shipped and most of the PC vendors are guiding down for Q4.
The turmoil in the PC market has caused us to modify our forecast since the last report; it is less aggressive on both desktops and notebooks. The popularity of tablets and the persistent recession are the contributing factors that have altered the nature of the PC market. Nonetheless, the CAGR for PC graphics from 2011 to 2016 is 3.6%, and we expect the total shipments of graphics chips in 2016 to be 608 million units.
The ten-year average change for this quarter is a growth of 7.9%. This quarter is below the average with a 4.6% decrease.
Our findings include discrete and integrated graphics (CPU and chipset) for Desktops, Notebooks (and Netbooks), and PC-based commercial (i.e., POS) and industrial/scientific and embedded. This report does not include handhelds (i.e., mobile phones), x86 Servers or ARM-based Tablets (i.e. iPad and Android-based Tablets), Smartbooks, or ARM-based Servers. It does include x86-based tablets.
The quarter in general
AMD’s quarter-to-quarter total shipments of desktop heterogeneous GPU/CPUs, i.e., APUs dropped 30% from Q2 and 4.7% in notebooks. The company’s overall PC graphics shipments slipped 10.7%.
Intel’s quarter-to-quarter desktop processor-graphics EPG shipments dropped from last quarter by 7%, and Notebooks fell by 8.6%. The company’s overall PC graphics shipments dropped 8%.
Nvidia’s quarter-to-quarter desktop discrete shipments jumped 28.3% from last quarter; and, the company’s mobile discrete shipments were up 12%, which is impressive in a down market. The company’s overall PC graphics shipments increased 19.6%. Year to year this quarter AMD shipments declined 20%, Intel dropped 14%, Nvidia slipped 0.5%, and VIA fell 10% from last year.
Total discrete GPUs (desktop and notebook) increased a modest 4.6% from the last quarter and were down 5.2% from last year for the same quarter due to the same problems plaguing the overall PC industry. Overall the trend for discrete GPUs is up with a CAGR to 2016 of 2.6%.
Ninety nine percent of Intel’s non-server processors have graphics, and over 67% of AMD’s non-server processors contain integrated graphics; AMD still ships IGPs.
Year to year for the quarter the graphics market decreased. Shipments were down 20 million units from this quarter last year.
Market shares shifted for the big three, and put pressure on the smaller two, market share in shipments as indicated in Table 1 (units are in millions.)
AMD saw a change of -7.7% in total graphics market share from last year, and -1.5% quarter to quarter.
Intel’s market share increased 0.9% from last year, and -2.4% from last quarter.
Nvidia showed an increase in market share of almost 15% in overall market share from last year rising to 19% from 16% last year.
Graphics chips (GPUs) and chips with graphics (IGPs, APUs, and EPGs) are a leading indicator for the PC market. At least one and often two GPUs are present in every PC shipped. It can take the form of a discrete chip, a GPU integrated in the chipset or embedded in the CPU. The average has grown from 1.2 GPUs per PC in 2001 to almost 1.4 GPUs per PC.
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#4464661 Posted on: 11/27/2012 06:46 PM
Congrats NV now bring out the 780
Congrats NV now bring out the 780
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#4464664 Posted on: 11/27/2012 06:51 PM
well for people who have owned Nvidia cards previously and were looking for an upgrade decided why rock the boat as it were...660 ti, 670, 680 very good cards.
for newcomers to the scene Nvidia still offers fairly competitive prices and does have some added extras like physx and new forms of AA (you can argue to what extent these are a big deal or not, fact is they are there).
i'll use my myself as an example. i'm looking to purchase a new card come Q1, and I cant see myself switching to AMD unless there's a bigger price difference or games incentive.
so its not surprising at all (well at least not to me anyways).
and it will take longer to dispell the reliability "myth" as it were (i.e drivers etc).
it doesnt help consumer confidence when just recently the 7 series has a "flickering" issue and AMD dont perform well in the cpu market and are cutting jobs.
I don't understand this. AMD has a great lineup this year and their drivers aren't crap like other years... also nVidia's Kepler isn't really that great so... why?
well for people who have owned Nvidia cards previously and were looking for an upgrade decided why rock the boat as it were...660 ti, 670, 680 very good cards.
for newcomers to the scene Nvidia still offers fairly competitive prices and does have some added extras like physx and new forms of AA (you can argue to what extent these are a big deal or not, fact is they are there).
i'll use my myself as an example. i'm looking to purchase a new card come Q1, and I cant see myself switching to AMD unless there's a bigger price difference or games incentive.
so its not surprising at all (well at least not to me anyways).
and it will take longer to dispell the reliability "myth" as it were (i.e drivers etc).
it doesnt help consumer confidence when just recently the 7 series has a "flickering" issue and AMD dont perform well in the cpu market and are cutting jobs.
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#4464686 Posted on: 11/27/2012 07:17 PM
That's the main reason people should buy AMD: so that they don't go out of business. I don't want to even imagine a market where only Intel and nVidia compete for CPU and GPU.
and AMD dont perform well in the cpu market and are cutting jobs.
That's the main reason people should buy AMD: so that they don't go out of business. I don't want to even imagine a market where only Intel and nVidia compete for CPU and GPU.
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#4464693 Posted on: 11/27/2012 07:22 PM
sorry I dont buy something just so I can keep a company in business. that's illogical captain!
but I do understand that losing AMD might allow Nvidia more of a freer reign when it comes to pricing...but there will come a time for me when I'll say am not paying x for something even if it's the only choice.
i'll find something else to do
That's the main reason people should buy AMD: so that they don't go out of business. I don't want to even imagine a market where only Intel and nVidia compete for CPU and GPU.
sorry I dont buy something just so I can keep a company in business. that's illogical captain!
but I do understand that losing AMD might allow Nvidia more of a freer reign when it comes to pricing...but there will come a time for me when I'll say am not paying x for something even if it's the only choice.
i'll find something else to do
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#4464715 Posted on: 11/27/2012 07:50 PM
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
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#4464719 Posted on: 11/27/2012 07:55 PM
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
yeah i did read it and yes the headline is misleading. still Nvidia is on the up, AMD not. that's the crux of it no?
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
yeah i did read it and yes the headline is misleading. still Nvidia is on the up, AMD not. that's the crux of it no?
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#4464722 Posted on: 11/27/2012 08:01 PM
Not sure it is, as the headline never said that Nvidia sold more, it says Nvidia's market share increased while everyone else went down.
Wouldn't be surprised if AMD did lose alot of market share to Nvidia with the 7k cards though, after the fantastic value 5 and 6k series they decided to release the 7k cards at prices usually reserved for Nvidia and right when people have less money than ever.
Not sure it is, as the headline never said that Nvidia sold more, it says Nvidia's market share increased while everyone else went down.
Wouldn't be surprised if AMD did lose alot of market share to Nvidia with the 7k cards though, after the fantastic value 5 and 6k series they decided to release the 7k cards at prices usually reserved for Nvidia and right when people have less money than ever.
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#4464768 Posted on: 11/27/2012 09:16 PM
We are speaking quarter to quarter .. Its allways a bit hard ..
AMD like allways was going out of the forest first with their lineup .. Nvidia have come too then with an extremely good lineup, but when AMD was out with a fully lineup some month after the high end, Nvidia have continue to release their cards with some space with it. Good marketing too.. Im not really suprised of it... Sometimes is just a question of timing .
Now we get the figure with AMD performance who are soon 11 month olds, with drivers update, price update, it is different, but when the 680 have been released, things was different too.
But just for understand: Market share are not made with high end cards or middle cards, this is the smallest parts, Low end is the key.. and the marketing of Nvidia made on the 680 release and Kepler look to have really impact it. ( just make a ride on the Nvidia page about Kepler, its so funny ( +40% average more performance of his competitor ? show me where the 680 is 40% faster of his competitor lol ( when it is now faster of some few % of the 680 )
After Fermi, Kepler have got all right, after bad review on powerconsumption and kaotik launch, they come with extremely good powerconsumption, good performance...
it was awaited, the effect of the rebound will impact it a lot...
Even if AMD is allways in front of Nvidia in global gpu marketshre ..the lost seems mostly due to the drop of APU ( the number is really not good ), who was mostly replace low end gpu for AMD... Then again, quarter to quarter is allways different, of an all year marketshare ( due to fluctuation following the date of release and bought by OEM, assembler ))
We are speaking quarter to quarter .. Its allways a bit hard ..
AMD like allways was going out of the forest first with their lineup .. Nvidia have come too then with an extremely good lineup, but when AMD was out with a fully lineup some month after the high end, Nvidia have continue to release their cards with some space with it. Good marketing too.. Im not really suprised of it... Sometimes is just a question of timing .
Now we get the figure with AMD performance who are soon 11 month olds, with drivers update, price update, it is different, but when the 680 have been released, things was different too.
But just for understand: Market share are not made with high end cards or middle cards, this is the smallest parts, Low end is the key.. and the marketing of Nvidia made on the 680 release and Kepler look to have really impact it. ( just make a ride on the Nvidia page about Kepler, its so funny ( +40% average more performance of his competitor ? show me where the 680 is 40% faster of his competitor lol ( when it is now faster of some few % of the 680 )
After Fermi, Kepler have got all right, after bad review on powerconsumption and kaotik launch, they come with extremely good powerconsumption, good performance...
it was awaited, the effect of the rebound will impact it a lot...
Even if AMD is allways in front of Nvidia in global gpu marketshre ..the lost seems mostly due to the drop of APU ( the number is really not good ), who was mostly replace low end gpu for AMD... Then again, quarter to quarter is allways different, of an all year marketshare ( due to fluctuation following the date of release and bought by OEM, assembler ))
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#4464862 Posted on: 11/27/2012 11:30 PM
AMDs market share in desktop computers in the quarter decline from 40.7% in Q2 to 35.7%, while Nvidias rose from 59.3% to 64.3%.
In notebook computers, AMDs share fell more dramatically, from 44.8% to 34.2%, while Nvidias share rose from 55.2% to 65.8%.
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2012/11/14/amd-declines-on-gpu-losses-wells-sees-hope-in-cost-cuts-consoles/
AMDs market share in desktop computers in the quarter decline from 40.7% in Q2 to 35.7%, while Nvidias rose from 59.3% to 64.3%.
In notebook computers, AMDs share fell more dramatically, from 44.8% to 34.2%, while Nvidias share rose from 55.2% to 65.8%.
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2012/11/14/amd-declines-on-gpu-losses-wells-sees-hope-in-cost-cuts-consoles/
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#4464881 Posted on: 11/28/2012 12:11 AM
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
That data represents the graphics market as a whole. You can't look at the graphics market and ignore APUs and IGPs....at least not if you're interested in facts anyway.
Most people just read the headline it seems. If you look at the data you see that last quarter AMD shipped waaayy more than Nvidia did (as did quarter before that if memory serves correctly). Nvidia simply started shipping greater volumes once their new line was out.
It also doesn't really address the discrete market as both AMD and Intel APUs are included in this data.
That data represents the graphics market as a whole. You can't look at the graphics market and ignore APUs and IGPs....at least not if you're interested in facts anyway.
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#4464890 Posted on: 11/28/2012 12:25 AM
well for people who have owned Nvidia cards previously and were looking for an upgrade decided why rock the boat as it were...660 ti, 670, 680 very good cards.
for newcomers to the scene Nvidia still offers fairly competitive prices and does have some added extras like physx and new forms of AA (you can argue to what extent these are a big deal or not, fact is they are there).
i'll use my myself as an example. i'm looking to purchase a new card come Q1, and I cant see myself switching to AMD unless there's a bigger price difference or games incentive.What $160 worth of free games isn't enough? And TXAA isn't supported by any game afaik, so it's kinda useless.
and it will take longer to dispell the reliability "myth" as it were (i.e drivers etc).
it doesnt help consumer confidence when just recently the 7 series has a "flickering" issue and AMD dont perform well in the cpu market and are cutting jobs.What does their CPU market have to do with Graphics cards...? going by the last few days it seems like you want someone to convince you to go red.
As I've said there is no flickering issue aside from low voltage which is a bios problem and nothing to do with AMD.
If you want to stick with Nvidia that's up to you...plenty of happy ATI owners out there...
well for people who have owned Nvidia cards previously and were looking for an upgrade decided why rock the boat as it were...660 ti, 670, 680 very good cards.
for newcomers to the scene Nvidia still offers fairly competitive prices and does have some added extras like physx and new forms of AA (you can argue to what extent these are a big deal or not, fact is they are there).
i'll use my myself as an example. i'm looking to purchase a new card come Q1, and I cant see myself switching to AMD unless there's a bigger price difference or games incentive.What $160 worth of free games isn't enough? And TXAA isn't supported by any game afaik, so it's kinda useless.
and it will take longer to dispell the reliability "myth" as it were (i.e drivers etc).
it doesnt help consumer confidence when just recently the 7 series has a "flickering" issue and AMD dont perform well in the cpu market and are cutting jobs.What does their CPU market have to do with Graphics cards...? going by the last few days it seems like you want someone to convince you to go red.
As I've said there is no flickering issue aside from low voltage which is a bios problem and nothing to do with AMD.
If you want to stick with Nvidia that's up to you...plenty of happy ATI owners out there...
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#4464892 Posted on: 11/28/2012 12:29 AM
What is this new flickering issue ? ... when amd 7000 series are here since 11months, i m curious to here about that.
What is this new flickering issue ? ... when amd 7000 series are here since 11months, i m curious to here about that.
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#4464896 Posted on: 11/28/2012 12:34 AM
According to a thread here in which 90% of the posts were made by the same 4 or 5 members, a few 78xx owners get flickering in some games - this does not make "an issue".
I get it occasionally when the vgpu is too low for the clock speed.
What is this new flickering issue ? ... when amd 7000 series are here since 11months, i m curious to here about that.
According to a thread here in which 90% of the posts were made by the same 4 or 5 members, a few 78xx owners get flickering in some games - this does not make "an issue".
I get it occasionally when the vgpu is too low for the clock speed.
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#4464903 Posted on: 11/28/2012 12:39 AM
the only reason i am gonna not take amd again is tearing that all amd cards have on windows desktop, login etc...
nvidia on same system was smooth...
and the unstoppable vsync with ogl in wc3 (dota 1)... it ruins many peoples experience with that double kill.........
and the most annoying is that amd have knowledge about these problems and they answered they cannot fix it......
the only reason i am gonna not take amd again is tearing that all amd cards have on windows desktop, login etc...
nvidia on same system was smooth...
and the unstoppable vsync with ogl in wc3 (dota 1)... it ruins many peoples experience with that double kill.........
and the most annoying is that amd have knowledge about these problems and they answered they cannot fix it......
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I don't understand this. AMD has a great lineup this year and their drivers aren't crap like other years... also nVidia's Kepler isn't really that great so... why?