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NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan preview
NVIDIA today announces the GeForce GTX Titan, read carefully ANNOUNCES. In this article we preview the GeForce GTX Titan technology. The GeForce GTX Titan is NVIDIA's fastest single GPU based graphics card they have ever built. It is based on the GK110 GPU with 7.1 Billion transistors and as such is nearly as fast as one GeForce GTX 690 with two GTX 680 GPUs. Later on Thursday we may uncover the performance and we'll do just that with three cards and three monitors. But for now, have a peek at this technology preview.
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#4531763 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:15 PM
I'm not at home is there a confirmed price in USA dollars? Hard to see everything on my cell. A boost clock of 1176 or whatever with all them shaders is going to rock.
I'm not at home is there a confirmed price in USA dollars? Hard to see everything on my cell. A boost clock of 1176 or whatever with all them shaders is going to rock.
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#4531764 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:15 PM
Thought it was confirmed they were slower than the 690's, as everyones saying that, guess we'll have to wait for the reviews then to find out for sure, as what ive said is still speculation.
Thought it was confirmed they were slower than the 690's, as everyones saying that, guess we'll have to wait for the reviews then to find out for sure, as what ive said is still speculation.
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#4531770 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:20 PM
I thought the UK was usually quite expensive. those 690's are cheaper then here
(not that i can afford one though lol)
I thought the UK was usually quite expensive. those 690's are cheaper then here
(not that i can afford one though lol)
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#4531772 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:21 PM
Of course it is. What's the last release, name it, where the new flagship was faster than the previous dual GPU? Has that ever even happened? I think maybe with the 7950x2 vs 8800 cards, but since then, none comes to mind. And SLI/SLI Support was a lot less mature then.
Thought it was confirmed they were slower than the 690's, as everyones saying that, guess we'll have to wait for the reviews then to find out for sure, as what ive said is still speculation.
Of course it is. What's the last release, name it, where the new flagship was faster than the previous dual GPU? Has that ever even happened? I think maybe with the 7950x2 vs 8800 cards, but since then, none comes to mind. And SLI/SLI Support was a lot less mature then.
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#4531780 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:37 PM
Well maybe you are right richguy, does seem silly for peeps to buy a titan when they could buy a 690 for less....(i agree with you on that 100%) and it's faster...
unless I am missing something...?
Well maybe you are right richguy, does seem silly for peeps to buy a titan when they could buy a 690 for less....(i agree with you on that 100%) and it's faster...
unless I am missing something...?
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#4531781 Posted on: 02/19/2013 06:38 PM
The leaked performance slides listing the Titan only 19-30% faster than an HD 7970 GE better fake.
For a card that's supposedly going to cost $1,000 it should at least be within margin of the GTX 690..not a $400 HD 7970.
-low clocks
-high price
-lower than expected performance
-not a limited run (although treated as one?)
Hm.......guess we'll have to wait till Thursday.
The leaked performance slides listing the Titan only 19-30% faster than an HD 7970 GE better fake.
For a card that's supposedly going to cost $1,000 it should at least be within margin of the GTX 690..not a $400 HD 7970.
-low clocks
-high price
-lower than expected performance
-not a limited run (although treated as one?)
Hm.......guess we'll have to wait till Thursday.
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#4531796 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:01 PM
What do we think the chances of this display overclocking are to be driver based and not locked specifically to Titan hardware?
What do we think the chances of this display overclocking are to be driver based and not locked specifically to Titan hardware?
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#4531806 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:11 PM
Need benchies!
Thankfully, the MSRP is a more than effective damper for my enthusiasm in regards to Titan.
Need benchies!
Thankfully, the MSRP is a more than effective damper for my enthusiasm in regards to Titan.
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#4531807 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:13 PM
In other words, this could be the "normal" 680 at 500-550$. Then I could buy it. Now, at 900$, it's like it doesn't exist for me. As other guys say, too much premium you have to pay. Nice card, though. Certainly I'd prefer it over SLI.
In other words, this could be the "normal" 680 at 500-550$. Then I could buy it. Now, at 900$, it's like it doesn't exist for me. As other guys say, too much premium you have to pay. Nice card, though. Certainly I'd prefer it over SLI.
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#4531818 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:22 PM
Anandtech said they tested monitors in their office and only one worked up to 75hz -- some Samsung display and they said it made no noticeable visual difference.
Where it will be nice is those Korean displays that were able to be driven all the way to 120hz. But yeah, most monitors won't see a benefit from this. I'm also pretty sure this has nothing to do with Titan, as you could do it through the custom monitor profile available to all Nvidia cards, this just makes it easier.
Mmm... My monitor when on DVI reports maximum frame @75... That would be great if I had VSync at 75FPS. I don't know whether would work or not, but in this case, that's a truly nice feature.
Anandtech said they tested monitors in their office and only one worked up to 75hz -- some Samsung display and they said it made no noticeable visual difference.
Where it will be nice is those Korean displays that were able to be driven all the way to 120hz. But yeah, most monitors won't see a benefit from this. I'm also pretty sure this has nothing to do with Titan, as you could do it through the custom monitor profile available to all Nvidia cards, this just makes it easier.
Mmm... My monitor when on DVI reports maximum frame @75... That would be great if I had VSync at 75FPS. I don't know whether would work or not, but in this case, that's a truly nice feature.
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#4531827 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:27 PM
You can already do it on any driver since at least the 300 series and probably even before then, it's just not a slider, you have to enter the values manually.
What do we think the chances of this display overclocking are to be driver based and not locked specifically to Titan hardware?
You can already do it on any driver since at least the 300 series and probably even before then, it's just not a slider, you have to enter the values manually.
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#4531833 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:33 PM
Well maybe you are right richguy, does seem silly for peeps to buy a titan when they could buy a 690 for less....(i agree with you on that 100%) and it's faster...
unless I am missing something...?
Surround. 690 only has 2gig ram per GPU. Off the top of my head: Skyrim, Crysis 1 + 2, BF3 all need more than that if you wish to use 4/8x levels of AA in 5760x1200+. Probably half the reason the released slides show 3 way Titan stomping SLI 690s.
Well maybe you are right richguy, does seem silly for peeps to buy a titan when they could buy a 690 for less....(i agree with you on that 100%) and it's faster...
unless I am missing something...?
Surround. 690 only has 2gig ram per GPU. Off the top of my head: Skyrim, Crysis 1 + 2, BF3 all need more than that if you wish to use 4/8x levels of AA in 5760x1200+. Probably half the reason the released slides show 3 way Titan stomping SLI 690s.
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#4531851 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:53 PM
Worst part of this is: (just like it's said in preview) this was suppose to be the GTX 680, but due to GK104 being on-par with the 7970 they decided to make it as their high end model. So the way i see it( my opinion only) they've put GK110 in the shelf for a year and just didn't worry about making anything new. Then one year later they take it, clean the dust off it and sell as their flagship model.
Only one i can blame at this point (again my personal opinion) is AMD/ATI for not putting up a descent fight.
So nVidia now are selling the chip (that originally was suppose to be way cheaper) for almost 2x the price, and that is just because .... THEY CAN and they have no competition, as this will be the fastest single GPU card on the market. Can't really blame them, they are just a company that is trying to make money.
In my opinion, paying more than £500 for a single GPU card is just stupid, especially is the rumours are true and this card is slower than 690 (for quite a bit bigger price). Only way i can justify buying it if u ONLY gonna use it for surround gaming. 6GB of memory won't be used for anything else.... 4GBwould have been perfect spot to be honest.
In other words, this could be the "normal" 680 at 500-550$. Then I could buy it. Now, at 900$, it's like it doesn't exist for me. As other guys say, too much premium you have to pay. Nice card, though. Certainly I'd prefer it over SLI.
Worst part of this is: (just like it's said in preview) this was suppose to be the GTX 680, but due to GK104 being on-par with the 7970 they decided to make it as their high end model. So the way i see it( my opinion only) they've put GK110 in the shelf for a year and just didn't worry about making anything new. Then one year later they take it, clean the dust off it and sell as their flagship model.
Only one i can blame at this point (again my personal opinion) is AMD/ATI for not putting up a descent fight.
So nVidia now are selling the chip (that originally was suppose to be way cheaper) for almost 2x the price, and that is just because .... THEY CAN and they have no competition, as this will be the fastest single GPU card on the market. Can't really blame them, they are just a company that is trying to make money.
In my opinion, paying more than £500 for a single GPU card is just stupid, especially is the rumours are true and this card is slower than 690 (for quite a bit bigger price). Only way i can justify buying it if u ONLY gonna use it for surround gaming. 6GB of memory won't be used for anything else.... 4GBwould have been perfect spot to be honest.
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#4531857 Posted on: 02/19/2013 07:57 PM
Worst part of this is: (just like it's said in preview) this was suppose to be the GTX 680, but due to GK104 being on-par with the 7970 they decided to make it as their high end model. So the way i see it( my opinion only) they've put GK110 in the shelf for a year and just didn't worry about making anything new. Then one year later they take it, clean the dust off it and sell as their flagship model.
Only one i can blame at this point (again my personal opinion) is AMD/ATI for not putting up a descent fight.
So nVidia now are selling the chip (that originally was suppose to be way cheaper) for almost 2x the price, and that is just because .... THEY CAN and they have no competition, as this will be the fastest single GPU card on the market. Can't really blame them, they are just a company that is trying to make money.
In my opinion, paying more than £500 for a single GPU card is just stupid, especially is the rumours are true and this card is slower than 690 (for quite a bit bigger price).
Absolutely not. Nvidia could barely manufacturer the GK104 at launch, the yields were garbage -- there was no way they were putting this chip out, even if AMD did put up fight.
Worst part of this is: (just like it's said in preview) this was suppose to be the GTX 680, but due to GK104 being on-par with the 7970 they decided to make it as their high end model. So the way i see it( my opinion only) they've put GK110 in the shelf for a year and just didn't worry about making anything new. Then one year later they take it, clean the dust off it and sell as their flagship model.
Only one i can blame at this point (again my personal opinion) is AMD/ATI for not putting up a descent fight.
So nVidia now are selling the chip (that originally was suppose to be way cheaper) for almost 2x the price, and that is just because .... THEY CAN and they have no competition, as this will be the fastest single GPU card on the market. Can't really blame them, they are just a company that is trying to make money.
In my opinion, paying more than £500 for a single GPU card is just stupid, especially is the rumours are true and this card is slower than 690 (for quite a bit bigger price).
Absolutely not. Nvidia could barely manufacturer the GK104 at launch, the yields were garbage -- there was no way they were putting this chip out, even if AMD did put up fight.
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funny that you seem to know they are slower than a 690 and we havent seen an official review yet...mmmm
oh and cockers have the inside info on the yields...maybe...again unconfirmed.
why dont you wait with the "speculation". makes sense?