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Intel Haswell Could Be Last Upgradable Desktop Microprocessor

Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/27/2012 09:34 AM | 103 comment(s) ]

According to a media report starting from code-named Broadwell generation of processors, Intel Corp. will only offer mainstream desktop chips in BGA packaging, which will eliminate upgrade options as well as increase risks for PC makers. According to Japanese PC Watch web-site, code-named Haswell microprocessors may be the last desktop chips in LGA packaging, which enabled easy switch of CPUs on mainboards. Starting from Broadwell chips, which are due in 2014, all mainstream desktop processors will be available in BGA packaging, which means that they will have to be soldered to mainboards, something that can be done in relatively sophisticated manufacturing facilities.

Both Intel and Advanced Micro Devices supply two different desktop platforms these days, making a very clear difference between mainstream and high-end desktop. Still, mainstream PCs with simplistic processors may easily be upgraded with very fast processors thanks to the fact that the chips are interchangeable and come in the same LGA1155 form-factor. Unfortunately, the ease of upgrade may come to an end in two years as starting from Broadwell generation of central processing units (CPUs) mainstream chips will cease to use land grid array (LGA) and micro pin grid array (µPGA) packages and will only be available in in ball grid array (BGA) form-factors, just like Intel Atom processors reports xbitlabs.

Due to the market trends towards low-power microprocessors, Intel will offer various Broadwell multi-chip modules – which will contain Broadwell CPUs with integrated memory controller, graphics core, etc. and Wildcat Point input/output controllers – with various thermal design power envelopes, e.g., 10W, 15W and 47W/57W, according to the report.

The BGA MCMs should provide advantages to makers of high-performance tablets, ultra-thin notebooks as well as all-in-one desktops as ball grid array packaging ensure small footprint. However, when it comes to fully-fledged desktops, BGA means that system makers will have to keep a large amount of different mainboards with various features and dissimilar microprocessors in order to provide the right choices for their clients. Such stockpiling increases business risks to smaller makers and decreases abilities to differentiate for mainboard makers.

While mainstream chips will reportedly be only supplied in BGA form-factors soldered to mainboards, which eliminates upgrade possibility, it is likely that high-end desktop (HEDT) platforms will still be supplied in LGA packaging. What remains to be seen is how expensive will such chips be. For example, at present the most affordable LGA2011 HEDT chip costs $294, whereas the most expensive performance-mainstream LGA1155 processor costs $332. In case upgradeable platforms remain on the HEDT’s price levels of today, that will essentially mean the end of upgrades of the mainstream PCs.

Intel did not comment on the news-story.




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#4464140 Posted on: 11/27/2012 03:31 AM
I didnt think it would happen this soon.
Hopefully they can think of a better method than LGA1155 before 2014.

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#4464145 Posted on: 11/27/2012 03:44 AM
Intel always comes up with crap ideas.
I hope amd will rise again and help us from this BGA BS.

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#4464153 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:15 AM
And there's the death of the pc market....

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#4464154 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:18 AM
Isnt the whole idea of a Desktop computer to have interchangeable parts ?

I understand for a laptop but still...... faster connection to move data ???

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#4464157 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:31 AM
When this happens, the motherboard will simply come with the processor.
You can still add other components and peripherals.

I imagine Intel will revert to an upgrade method they talked about a while back, using codes to determine the CPUs performance.
If you pay more you can start off with a faster CPU or upgrade later.

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#4464161 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:34 AM
Intel always comes up with crap ideas.

Its not so much a crap idea, but a way of avoiding bad contacts with very small contact points.
Its possible they can avoid having to do it if a new method of reliably connecting the motherboard and CPU are developed that doesnt result in easy accidental damage.

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#4464163 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:37 AM
They just single handedly killed the desktop and enthusiast markets if they do this across the board. It makes sense in the low-end, low power market segments, but not mid-range and up.

deltatux

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#4464165 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:40 AM
Intels making the wrong move....they will sink themselves.

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#4464166 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:43 AM
This doesn't make sense at all.

I'll believe it when I see it happen, maybe what they mean to say is that 'broadwell' will come in BGA packages for certain applications, considering they would still have to deliver socketed parts for servers.

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#4464171 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:47 AM
If this happens it will go a long ways towards shooting the little guy (like me) right between the eyes. People won't bring me a computer for an upgrade if no upgrade path is available... they will instead go to Best Buy and get a brand new one. That person will spend more money over time and I won't have anything either. :(

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#4464172 Posted on: 11/27/2012 04:48 AM
I only see this happening for their lower end processors.

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#4464182 Posted on: 11/27/2012 05:12 AM
They just single handedly killed the desktop and enthusiast markets if they do this across the board. It makes sense in the low-end, low power market segments, but not mid-range and up.

deltatux

According to rumor, it will affect "mainstream" and lower....not the high-end market. Of course, if Intel releases Haswell on a new socket, it will piss customers off when they dump money into Haswell just to have no upgrade path later.

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#4464189 Posted on: 11/27/2012 05:28 AM
I... I may kill myself if they take away my interchangeable processors. This better not happen right now.

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#4464191 Posted on: 11/27/2012 05:33 AM
This is the worst news i have ever seen on my internet feed. Thanks as i pray to god this doesnt happen, if anything the video card compaines need to go socket....not intel doing the reverse....whats next? computers with integrated memory? with what 1-2 options? **** that dude. i am out and will never buy a pc part ever, and will tell everyone to just boycott tech and go outside and enjoy the lives that god gave us anyways.

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#4464194 Posted on: 11/27/2012 05:41 AM
^yea. That's better idea.
'go green' ...
Leave ur pc buy a BGA ultrathin laptop and live in amazon with monkey-tarzans.
That is intel's moto.

They just single handedly killed the desktop and enthusiast markets if they do this across the board. It makes sense in the low-end, low power market segments, but not mid-range and up.

deltatux

totally agree. Even if they do BGA crap in midrange cpus then they will ruin themselves.
Cause, still amd has good cpus in that segment.

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