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Intel Core i7 4770K Haswell Benchmarks Surface
Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/18/2013 11:45 AM | 117 comment(s) ]
One of Intel's upcoming desktop processors based on Haswell will be the flagship consumer processor Core i7-4770K. Tom's Hardware posted numbers and benchmark on this processor and compared it with the Core i7-3770K "Ivy Bridge" and Core i7-2700K "Sandy Bridge." All three processors have been fired off against a series of tests including SiSoft SANDRA, video transcoders and 3DSMax 2012. Benchmarks and more info after the break.
Now as you will notice in some tests the Core i7 4770K offers merely a small performance upgrade over the Core i7 3770K, but in others it's even lower then the 3770.
When you take the rough ballpark then the conclusion is that the Core i7 4770K is only 7 to 13 percent faster than the i7-3770K in multi-threaded workload. Intel's Core "Haswell" line of desktop processors are expected to launch in June, 2013 prior or shortly after Computex.
Anyway have a peek at the charts and click on the thumbnails below to see performance numbers.
| Fourth-Generation Intel Core Desktop Line-Up | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cores / Threads | TDP (W) | Clock Rate | 1 Core | 2 Cores | 3 Cores | 4 Cores | L3 | GPU | Max. GPU Clock | TSX | |
| i7-4770K | 4 / 8 | 84 | 3.5 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 8 MB | GT2 | 1.25 GHz | No |
| i7-4770 | 4 / 8 | 84 | 3.4 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 8 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4670K | 4 / 4 | 84 | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | No |
| i5-4670 | 4 /4 | 84 | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4570 | 4 / 4 | 84 | 3.2 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.15GHz | Yes |
| i5-4430 | 4 / 4 | 84 | 3 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.1 GHz | 3 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.1 GHz | No |
| i7-4770S | 4 / 4 | 65 | 3.1 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 8 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4570S | 4 / 4 | 65 | 2.9 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.3 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.15GHz | Yes |
| i5-4670S | 4 / 4 | 65 | 3.1 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4430S | 4 / 4 | 65 | 2.7 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.1 GHz | 2.9 GHz | 2.8 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.1 GHz | No |
| i7-4770T | 4 / 4 | 45 | 2.5 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 3.1 GHz | 8 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4670T | 4 / 4 | 45 | 2.3 GHz | 3.3 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3 GHz | 2.9 GHz | 6 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i7-4765T | 4 / 4 | 35 | 2 GHz | 3 GHz | 2.9 GHz | 2.7 GHz | 2.6 GHz | 8 MB | GT2 | 1.2 GHz | Yes |
| i5-4570T | 2 / 4 | 35 | 2.9 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.3 GHz | - | - | 4 MB | GT2 | 1.15 GHz | |
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#4556538 Posted on: 03/18/2013 11:58 AM
meh.
7 to 13 percent faster than the i7-3770K in multi-threaded workload
meh.
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#4556548 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:21 PM
Haswell was about power efficiency and the iGPU after all. I'm not suprised that it isn't outclassing Ivy Bridge. Any word on whether Haswell will also have that weird heat problem of Ivy Bridge due to the TIM or whatever?
Haswell was about power efficiency and the iGPU after all. I'm not suprised that it isn't outclassing Ivy Bridge. Any word on whether Haswell will also have that weird heat problem of Ivy Bridge due to the TIM or whatever?
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#4556550 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:24 PM
I haven't heard anything. But even if they use the same process this go around, it's nothing a 10 min procedure can't fix.
Haswell was about power efficiency and the iGPU after all. I'm not suprised that it isn't outclassing Ivy Bridge. Any word on whether Haswell will also have that weird heat problem of Ivy Bridge due to the TIM or whatever?
I haven't heard anything. But even if they use the same process this go around, it's nothing a 10 min procedure can't fix.
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#4556551 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:25 PM
You did that on a thousand dollar CPU?! Damn
I haven't heard anything. But even if they use the same process this go around, it's nothing a 10 min procedure can't fix.
You did that on a thousand dollar CPU?! Damn
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#4556552 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:27 PM
you can"t delid a SB cpu. but I did do it to my 3770k
you can"t delid a SB cpu. but I did do it to my 3770k
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#4556554 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:28 PM
TDP = 84 vs IB = 77?
TDP = 84 vs IB = 77?
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#4556558 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:34 PM
Only 7-13% faster than an i7-3770K at stock but what about overclocking potential and temperatures? Assuming the heat spreader issue has been fixed the new i7-4770K could run cooler and use less power at higher clocks than the i7-3770K even though the new CPU's TDP is 7 W more... right?
The i7-3770K looks like a great CPU and one that I would very likely have bought to replace my ageing i7-920 if newer Haswell CPUs weren't coming out in the next few months. I guess it depends on the pricing but it makes more sense to buy a current CPU for a newer chip socket than one for a socket that is about to be phased out. There again, does it really matter when a CPU usually lasts me 3+ years and its replacement usually coincides with either a new PC or a new motherboard?
Only 7-13% faster than an i7-3770K at stock but what about overclocking potential and temperatures? Assuming the heat spreader issue has been fixed the new i7-4770K could run cooler and use less power at higher clocks than the i7-3770K even though the new CPU's TDP is 7 W more... right?
The i7-3770K looks like a great CPU and one that I would very likely have bought to replace my ageing i7-920 if newer Haswell CPUs weren't coming out in the next few months. I guess it depends on the pricing but it makes more sense to buy a current CPU for a newer chip socket than one for a socket that is about to be phased out. There again, does it really matter when a CPU usually lasts me 3+ years and its replacement usually coincides with either a new PC or a new motherboard?
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#4556560 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:38 PM
that's too bad because there giving AMD time to catch up in the CPU department while intel is still behind in the GPGPU department...
if all we get is a lousy 7-13% increase then what the hell is there saving grace? there still behind low power efficient processors when it comes to mobile chips like QUALCOMM and Samsung and AMD still beats them in integrated GPUs and when it comes to consumer based chips AMD is catching up little by little and once they do why would the common consumer worry by then when we start to get performance figures like this?
I think intel needs to get there sh@t together!
that's too bad because there giving AMD time to catch up in the CPU department while intel is still behind in the GPGPU department...
if all we get is a lousy 7-13% increase then what the hell is there saving grace? there still behind low power efficient processors when it comes to mobile chips like QUALCOMM and Samsung and AMD still beats them in integrated GPUs and when it comes to consumer based chips AMD is catching up little by little and once they do why would the common consumer worry by then when we start to get performance figures like this?
I think intel needs to get there sh@t together!
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#4556567 Posted on: 03/18/2013 12:54 PM
Haswell was about power efficiency and the iGPU after all. I'm not suprised that it isn't outclassing Ivy Bridge. Any word on whether Haswell will also have that weird heat problem of Ivy Bridge due to the TIM or whatever?
Anand said during his podcast that they fixed it. He wouldn't directly comment on whether it was soldered or not but Intel came to his house to demonstrate some of the new tech, he asked and they said they were aware and that it was fixed.
that's too bad because there giving AMD time to catch up in the CPU department while intel is still behind in the GPGPU department...
if all we get is a lousy 7-13% increase then what the hell is there saving grace? there still behind low power efficient processors when it comes to mobile chips like QUALCOMM and Samsung and AMD still beats them in integrated GPUs and when it comes to consumer based chips AMD is catching up little by little and once they do why would the common consumer worry by then when we start to get performance figures like this?
I think intel needs to get there sh@t together!
There saving grace is platform power. By moving the VRs off the mainboard into the processor they can switch states, voltages near instantly. Suddenly you're going to see devices like the surface pro go from 4-5 hours battery life to 8-9. Granted not many of us care about that as gamers, but that's the direction the market is headed so Intel needs to compete there.
Haswell was about power efficiency and the iGPU after all. I'm not suprised that it isn't outclassing Ivy Bridge. Any word on whether Haswell will also have that weird heat problem of Ivy Bridge due to the TIM or whatever?
Anand said during his podcast that they fixed it. He wouldn't directly comment on whether it was soldered or not but Intel came to his house to demonstrate some of the new tech, he asked and they said they were aware and that it was fixed.
that's too bad because there giving AMD time to catch up in the CPU department while intel is still behind in the GPGPU department...
if all we get is a lousy 7-13% increase then what the hell is there saving grace? there still behind low power efficient processors when it comes to mobile chips like QUALCOMM and Samsung and AMD still beats them in integrated GPUs and when it comes to consumer based chips AMD is catching up little by little and once they do why would the common consumer worry by then when we start to get performance figures like this?
I think intel needs to get there sh@t together!
There saving grace is platform power. By moving the VRs off the mainboard into the processor they can switch states, voltages near instantly. Suddenly you're going to see devices like the surface pro go from 4-5 hours battery life to 8-9. Granted not many of us care about that as gamers, but that's the direction the market is headed so Intel needs to compete there.
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#4556578 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:07 PM
I think i will pick up a 3770k for 230 dollars at microcenter and get a 650 ti...
it might not make a difference for me since i do not game much....but i am going to do it and then wait for gen after haswell
I think i will pick up a 3770k for 230 dollars at microcenter and get a 650 ti...
it might not make a difference for me since i do not game much....but i am going to do it and then wait for gen after haswell
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#4556580 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:08 PM
Anand said during his podcast that they fixed it. He wouldn't directly comment on whether it was soldered or not but Intel came to his house to demonstrate some of the new tech, he asked and they said they were aware and that it was fixed.
Sweet!
Anand said during his podcast that they fixed it. He wouldn't directly comment on whether it was soldered or not but Intel came to his house to demonstrate some of the new tech, he asked and they said they were aware and that it was fixed.
Sweet!
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#4556585 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:14 PM
It's says that 4770K is 3,9 Ghz, while for tests it's probably been downclocked to 3,5. So at the same speed difference is small. And AFAIK 3770 had 6 cores => advantage in some tests. Anyway, I won't change my PC until next gen of hw, or gen after that comes. c2q is doing well. And new consoles should give huge boost to hw development, like the old ones did, so it would be not wise to upgrade now (especially if you don't have problems with your current hw).
It's says that 4770K is 3,9 Ghz, while for tests it's probably been downclocked to 3,5. So at the same speed difference is small. And AFAIK 3770 had 6 cores => advantage in some tests. Anyway, I won't change my PC until next gen of hw, or gen after that comes. c2q is doing well. And new consoles should give huge boost to hw development, like the old ones did, so it would be not wise to upgrade now (especially if you don't have problems with your current hw).
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#4556587 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:15 PM
so there trying to take over a market that has other more experienced chip makers that have dominated the mobile enterprise for years and think they can come in and take it over night...? it won't happen because most people that throw money down on mobile phones are already an established fan base plus most of them are young adults that wouldn't even care if a phone or tablet was priced to a premium just because it had intel on the label!!
They don't have that type of trust or confidence in the mobile market with consumers yet plus most have a short attention span and that doesn't help nether....
There saving grace is platform power. By moving the VRs off the mainboard into the processor they can switch states, voltages near instantly. Suddenly you're going to see devices like the surface pro go from 4-5 hours battery life to 8-9. Granted not many of us care about that as gamers, but that's the direction the market is headed so Intel needs to compete there.
yeah I understand that but there weakening a market there familiar with "Hardcore Gaming" "HTCP users" and people in applied sciences that need a cheap general use desktop computer to use on every day activities while not killing there bank accounts!
so there trying to take over a market that has other more experienced chip makers that have dominated the mobile enterprise for years and think they can come in and take it over night...? it won't happen because most people that throw money down on mobile phones are already an established fan base plus most of them are young adults that wouldn't even care if a phone or tablet was priced to a premium just because it had intel on the label!!
They don't have that type of trust or confidence in the mobile market with consumers yet plus most have a short attention span and that doesn't help nether....
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#4556613 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:57 PM
3770 is 4 cores 8 threads and 3.9 is its turbo clock and that is only avaloble to one core at a time iirc to help with single threaded apps.
It's says that 4770K is 3,9 Ghz, while for tests it's probably been downclocked to 3,5. So at the same speed difference is small. And AFAIK 3770 had 6 cores => advantage in some tests. Anyway, I won't change my PC until next gen of hw, or gen after that comes. c2q is doing well. And new consoles should give huge boost to hw development, like the old ones did, so it would be not wise to upgrade now (especially if you don't have problems with your current hw).
3770 is 4 cores 8 threads and 3.9 is its turbo clock and that is only avaloble to one core at a time iirc to help with single threaded apps.
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interesting scores, seems like when it comes to GPU performance the A10-5800K is still stronger. I'm more interested in seeing how the mobile line-up holds up though