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Guru3D.com » News » Crucial shows off DDR4 memory

Crucial shows off DDR4 memory

Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/11/2013 09:42 AM | 17 comment(s) ]

Crucial showed DDR4 memory modules at CES 2013. The company plans to ship these modules by the end of the year. Crucial, a leading global brand of memory and storage upgrades, today announced its first DDR4 DRAM demonstration at CES 2013. As a global brand of Micron, the Crucial DDR4 DRAM demonstration is based on Micron's 30-nanometer (nm) technology, the 4-gigabit (Gb) DDR4 x8 part is the first piece of what is expected to be the industry's most complete portfolio of DDR4-based modules, which will include RDIMMs, LRDIMMs, SODIMMs and UDIMMs (standard and ECC).

The new Crucial DDR4 DRAM modules use up to 20 percent lower voltage than previous technology, enabling smaller, more efficient form factors and longer battery lives. The DDR4 DRAM will have lower voltage, operating at 1.2V in comparison to current DDR3 offerings operating from 1.35V to 1.5V. The new memory modules enable mainstream data rates that are up to twice as fast as DDR3 memory. This will enable systems to process data faster, load applications faster, improve system responsiveness, and increase the ability to multi-task and handle data-intensive programs.

“The initial readiness of our DDR4 product portfolio represents a big step forward in terms of power and performance improvements for our customers,” said Robert Feurle, vice president for Micron's DRAM Marketing. “A variety of speed and density options enable leading edge modules for the most demanding applications.”

The first public demonstration of the Crucial Ballistix DDR4 DRAM modules will be held at the 2013 International CES, January 8-11th.

“With DDR4 data rates already twice that of DDR3 when it was introduced, Crucial Ballistix is the ideal showcase for Micron’s latest generation of DRAM,” said Jim Jardine, director of DRAM product marketing, Crucial. “Other benefits, including reduced voltage compared to DDR3, will make DDR4 an important advancement in memory technology that will benefit computing systems that range from the personal computer to the data center.”

The Crucial DDR4 DRAM modules are backed by a limited lifetime warranty and are rigorously tested to meet or exceed the high-quality performance specifications customers have come to expect from Crucial. New DDR4 DRAM modules are expected to ship in late 2013.






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#4498593 Posted on: 01/11/2013 09:19 PM
Looks like we have something else to look forward to this year
quite interested to see how they fare in market entry versus DDR3...

And how long it will take for DDR4 to surpass it's predecessor...

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#4498605 Posted on: 01/11/2013 09:24 PM
Looks like we have something else to look forward to this year
quite interested to see how they fare in market entry versus DDR3...

And how long it will take for DDR4 to surpass it's predecessor...

surpass on what.? it will be faster just "out of the box"...as ddr3 vs ddr2

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#4498621 Posted on: 01/11/2013 09:41 PM
GDDR4 was a flop.. So DDR4 will be also... No real advantage over DDR3

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#4498737 Posted on: 01/12/2013 12:33 AM
GDDR4 was a flop.. So DDR4 will be also... No real advantage over DDR3


Huh? I'm assuming this is sarcasm but if not what the hell are you talking about?

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#4498759 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:21 AM
Wouldn't you need a new cpu and mobo though that supports it?

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#4498763 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:25 AM
Wouldn't you need a new cpu and mobo though that supports it?


Yes..

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#4498769 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:34 AM
"The first public demonstration of the Crucial Ballistix DDR4 DRAM modules will be held at the 2013 International CES, January 8-11th."

So which processor did they use for this demonstration then since its the 12th today and i haven't seen anything about a cpu that supports ddr4?

Or maybe i just missed it.

I thought only Haswell had ddr4 support.

Maybe they have Haswell ES?

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#4498772 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:36 AM
surpass on what.? it will be faster just "out of the box"...as ddr3 vs ddr2


Early DDR 3 modules ran @ 800 & 1066 mhz.. same as the last DDR 2 module speeds..

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#4498774 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:39 AM
"The first public demonstration of the Crucial Ballistix DDR4 DRAM modules will be held at the 2013 International CES, January 8-11th."

So which processor did they use for this demonstration then since its the 12th today and i haven't seen anything about a cpu that supports ddr4?

Or maybe i just missed it.

I thought only Haswell had ddr4 support.

Maybe they have Haswell ES?

Anand speculated that its a prototype xeon chip. The computer it was running on was completely locked down so no one knows what it is and even crucial said they only had 2 boxes in their hands to do testing on. Haswell EX/Broadwell are supposed to be the first consumer Intel chips with DDR4 support but neither are slated to be released for a long time.

FYI I believe this chip was running at 2133 which was the max the board they were using supported. But they said in internal testing they were able to hit 3200. Not sure what voltage that was at, but DDR4 is supposed to start at 1.2v which is significantly less than DDR3.

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#4498781 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:49 AM
hmmm according to the interwebz Haswell is only 6-8 months away from release.

If true that would burn if you just bought a high end ivy B.

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#4498783 Posted on: 01/12/2013 01:52 AM
hmmm according to the interwebz Haswell is only 6-8 months away from release.

If true that would burn if you just bought a high end ivy B.

It's 6 months for mobile chips, Q3 for desktop chips. Haswell-EX with DDR4 support isn't till 2014 and its launching with server parts first.

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#4498888 Posted on: 01/12/2013 07:27 AM
We're getting there. Although I imagine AMD will probably pull the same thing it did with DDR3 and not actually support for a like a year after Intel starts pumping out stuff. Meaning, probably be like 2015 for AMD fans.

Wouldn't you need a new cpu and mobo though that supports it?


This is why I've been holding back on an entire system upgrade. I'm still using DDR2. Before DDR2 I was using PC133. Before that, EDO.



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#4498897 Posted on: 01/12/2013 07:58 AM
so should we be excited or not, cause this thread is sending me mixed messages.

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#4498902 Posted on: 01/12/2013 08:10 AM
Early on timings might be a bit worse and speed will likely not to too different from current higher-end DDR3 modules but it supports faster data rate (If I understood correctly.) operates at a lower voltage and in time will get even faster. :)
(It will probably also be quite expensive when it's first released.)

Just as with DDR3 though the timings never changed much AFAIK.
(My first DDR3 kit uses 8-8-8-24 at 1800mhz, expensive but it's still working, ran at 1.95v though compared to current generation 1.5v modules.)

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#4498916 Posted on: 01/12/2013 09:17 AM
speed is one thing, response time is another, it gives no indication of the RAM's timing...

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