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#4622050 Posted on: 07/18/2013 06:29 PM
I agree and the lightning is not all that great comes highest in oc but most of the 770s over clock about the same so a regular msi gaming will be fine I got gigabyte because the factory oc and the to try the wind force which is very silent even at 80% fan and typical temps 38c max oc and under load it's mostly 61c but can reach 76c after an hour of far cry 3.
Good and dandy photo thumbs up lol
I agree and the lightning is not all that great comes highest in oc but most of the 770s over clock about the same so a regular msi gaming will be fine I got gigabyte because the factory oc and the to try the wind force which is very silent even at 80% fan and typical temps 38c max oc and under load it's mostly 61c but can reach 76c after an hour of far cry 3.
Good and dandy photo thumbs up lol
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#4622065 Posted on: 07/18/2013 06:50 PM
Hmm, that's the 70% reason I'd admit, because I want to get the most out of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Company of Heroes 2, right now the GTX 670 have to scale back on the settings to keep the graphics smooth.
Focus on games you play and plan to stick with, not interactive benchmarks like Crysis 3.
Anyways, seeing as your motherboard doesn't support SLi I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GTX 780...
Hmm, that's the 70% reason I'd admit, because I want to get the most out of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Company of Heroes 2, right now the GTX 670 have to scale back on the settings to keep the graphics smooth.
Focus on games you play and plan to stick with, not interactive benchmarks like Crysis 3.
Anyways, seeing as your motherboard doesn't support SLi I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GTX 780...
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#4622090 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:16 PM
Focus on games you play and plan to stick with, not interactive benchmarks like Crysis 3.
Anyways, seeing as your motherboard doesn't support SLi I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GTX 780...
I would say the exact opposite replace the entry level motherboard the OP has with at least the ASRock Z77 extreme4 and get another 670 it will cost less total that the 780 and OP WILL have more performance.
Focus on games you play and plan to stick with, not interactive benchmarks like Crysis 3.
Anyways, seeing as your motherboard doesn't support SLi I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GTX 780...
I would say the exact opposite replace the entry level motherboard the OP has with at least the ASRock Z77 extreme4 and get another 670 it will cost less total that the 780 and OP WILL have more performance.
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#4622094 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:21 PM
I would say the exact opposite replace the entry level motherboard the OP has with at least the ASRock Z77 extreme4 and get another 670 it will cost less total that the 780 and OP WILL have more performance.
I already said that in my first post and he said he doesn't want to.
The GTX 780 is a great card, but probably not worth it for everyone who already owns a GTX670/GTX680/HD7970.
Maybe just replace your motherboard with one that supports SLi and get another GTX 670...
I would say the exact opposite replace the entry level motherboard the OP has with at least the ASRock Z77 extreme4 and get another 670 it will cost less total that the 780 and OP WILL have more performance.
I already said that in my first post and he said he doesn't want to.
The GTX 780 is a great card, but probably not worth it for everyone who already owns a GTX670/GTX680/HD7970.
Maybe just replace your motherboard with one that supports SLi and get another GTX 670...
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#4622104 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:24 PM
^One more voice of reason doesn't hurt though.
^One more voice of reason doesn't hurt though.
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#4622120 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:40 PM
If that means I don't have to ended up re-install everything from OS to all my other stuff, and lost a whole week (I got my 9-to-5 job and do all house chores myself, like 99% of us) to do so, then I'm up for it. Otherwise, I'd prefer to go through that process when I make another major upgrade along with a new OS.
That said, I'm concentrating on options that involves just swap out the card and re-install drivers...perhaps add an hour in the installation time to at least vacuum the interior a bit, but that's the most I'm willing to undertake at this time.
I would say the exact opposite replace the entry level motherboard the OP has with at least the ASRock Z77 extreme4 and get another 670 it will cost less total that the 780 and OP WILL have more performance.
If that means I don't have to ended up re-install everything from OS to all my other stuff, and lost a whole week (I got my 9-to-5 job and do all house chores myself, like 99% of us) to do so, then I'm up for it. Otherwise, I'd prefer to go through that process when I make another major upgrade along with a new OS.
That said, I'm concentrating on options that involves just swap out the card and re-install drivers...perhaps add an hour in the installation time to at least vacuum the interior a bit, but that's the most I'm willing to undertake at this time.
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#4622122 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:43 PM
These days u can upgrade most hardware without having to do a reinstall.
These days u can upgrade most hardware without having to do a reinstall.
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#4622130 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:53 PM
I remember that rule still don't apply to changing motherboard...it's not the same with swapping out graphic card or CPU (of the same socket design) or RAM.
These days u can upgrade most hardware without having to do a reinstall.
I remember that rule still don't apply to changing motherboard...it's not the same with swapping out graphic card or CPU (of the same socket design) or RAM.
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#4622132 Posted on: 07/18/2013 07:55 PM
Your going from Z77 to another Z77 I would venture to say all you will need to do is set your boot order and CPU OC in the BIOS and it should load up your OS no problem.
Your going from Z77 to another Z77 I would venture to say all you will need to do is set your boot order and CPU OC in the BIOS and it should load up your OS no problem.
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#4622133 Posted on: 07/18/2013 08:04 PM
The main thing to watch is when switching to a board with a different SATA controller be sure to install the correct AHCI driver first.
I remember that rule still don't apply to changing motherboard...
Yeah it does, if you move from Intel to Intel or AMD to AMD, all you need to do is unplug the HDD from one and plug it into the other. It's that simple.The main thing to watch is when switching to a board with a different SATA controller be sure to install the correct AHCI driver first.
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#4622156 Posted on: 07/18/2013 08:55 PM
Call me old fashioned, but I would never do that. I'm too scarred from the age of "upgrade gremlins" that made changing hardware on the same Windows install a complete waste of time.
These days u can upgrade most hardware without having to do a reinstall.
Call me old fashioned, but I would never do that. I'm too scarred from the age of "upgrade gremlins" that made changing hardware on the same Windows install a complete waste of time.
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#4622269 Posted on: 07/19/2013 12:39 AM
Upgrade gremlins fine and dandy lol
Upgrade gremlins fine and dandy lol
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#4622353 Posted on: 07/19/2013 05:02 AM
That's exactly what I worry about, and I've experienced it back in WinXP days.
Call me old fashioned, but I would never do that. I'm too scarred from the age of "upgrade gremlins" that made changing hardware on the same Windows install a complete waste of time.
That's exactly what I worry about, and I've experienced it back in WinXP days.
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#4622376 Posted on: 07/19/2013 06:20 AM
XP days were 12 years ago. A lot has changed since then...
You guys are worrying for nothing.
That's exactly what I worry about, and I've experienced it back in WinXP days.
XP days were 12 years ago. A lot has changed since then...
You guys are worrying for nothing.
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Do not buy any 770. It is an awful upgrade from a 670. Tbh there are 4gb 770 out right now. You sure your mb does not support sli? If it does grab another 670 or sell it and buy a 780