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AMD: We're not abandoning socketed CPUs
Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 12/05/2012 09:48 AM | 23 comment(s) ]
If have been reading the news closely then a week or so ago you might have noticed those slightly worrying rumors about Intel ditching socketed CPUs in 2014. Intel hasn't sought to confirm or deny the speculation. AMD, however, has now chimed in, saying its plans are quite different. Here's the statement from AMD's Chris Hook.
AMD has a long history of supporting the DIY and enthusiast desktop market with socketed CPUs & APUs that are compatible with a wide range of motherboard products from our partners. That will continue through 2013 and 2014 with the "Kaveri" APU and FX CPU lines. We have no plans
As the company that introduced new types of BGA packages in ultrathin platforms several years ago, and today offers BGA-packaged processors for everything from ultrathin notebooks to all-in-one desktops, to embedded applications and tablets, we certainly understand Intel's enthusiasm for the approach. But for the desktop market, and the enthusiasts with whom AMD has built its brand, we understand what matters to them and how we can continue to bring better value and a better experience.
That's reassuring, to some degree, to know at least one of the two major CPU vendors isn't abandoning us.
Of course, given AMD's recent struggles, it's hard to predict what the company's product offerings will look like in 2014—and whether enthusiasts can really expect compelling desktop solutions. There have been whispers about AMD possibly putting itself up for sale (though AMD itself denies these allegations), and just last week, AMD took out the corporate equivalent of a home equity loan to free up cash. The chipmaker has also said it intends to deliver ARM-based processors alongside x86 chips for servers in 2014 - via tech report.
AMD: We're not abandoning socketed CPUs
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#4472384 Posted on: 12/05/2012 08:12 PM
Also worth considering...
If AMDs fastest chips arent as good as Intels mid range and Intels end up soldered, is it still worth getting AMDs socketed chips?
Within a 2 to 4 year timeframe, you may need to upgrade the socketed but may not need to upgrade the soldered.
Would there be any cost benefit going socketed over the time period?
If not, you end up using a slower CPU from the start without a benefit.
Hypothetical for now.
There may be a move to better threading support in games (given the new consoles and a move in that direction anyway) which will take the focus off higher speed chips somewhat.
Lots to wait and see.
Also worth considering...
If AMDs fastest chips arent as good as Intels mid range and Intels end up soldered, is it still worth getting AMDs socketed chips?
Within a 2 to 4 year timeframe, you may need to upgrade the socketed but may not need to upgrade the soldered.
Would there be any cost benefit going socketed over the time period?
If not, you end up using a slower CPU from the start without a benefit.
Hypothetical for now.
There may be a move to better threading support in games (given the new consoles and a move in that direction anyway) which will take the focus off higher speed chips somewhat.
Lots to wait and see.
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#4472392 Posted on: 12/05/2012 08:21 PM
well, lets just hope that AMD can get their act right, and start competing again, and also i will choose the best that i could get, if intel cpu is faster but the mobo feature is very little, and AMD is only like 10-25% slower than intel mid range, then i will choose AMD, and that is if AMD mobo features is a lot better than what intel offers. and also if i can't change the cpu cooler for intel, then its obvious, cos i don't want my cpu to be hot and loud.
i use to have Pentium 2, and i hated that what i can do to it is very limited.
well, lets just hope that AMD can get their act right, and start competing again, and also i will choose the best that i could get, if intel cpu is faster but the mobo feature is very little, and AMD is only like 10-25% slower than intel mid range, then i will choose AMD, and that is if AMD mobo features is a lot better than what intel offers. and also if i can't change the cpu cooler for intel, then its obvious, cos i don't want my cpu to be hot and loud.
i use to have Pentium 2, and i hated that what i can do to it is very limited.
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#4472478 Posted on: 12/05/2012 10:15 PM
well, lets just hope that AMD can get their act right, and start competing again, and also i will choose the best that i could get, if intel cpu is faster but the mobo feature is very little, and AMD is only like 10-25% slower than intel mid range, then i will choose AMD, and that is if AMD mobo features is a lot better than what intel offers. and also if i can't change the cpu cooler for intel, then its obvious, cos i don't want my cpu to be hot and loud.
i use to have Pentium 2, and i hated that what i can do to it is very limited.
you do not need to worry any longer, current intel cpu`s are much updated these days
well, lets just hope that AMD can get their act right, and start competing again, and also i will choose the best that i could get, if intel cpu is faster but the mobo feature is very little, and AMD is only like 10-25% slower than intel mid range, then i will choose AMD, and that is if AMD mobo features is a lot better than what intel offers. and also if i can't change the cpu cooler for intel, then its obvious, cos i don't want my cpu to be hot and loud.
i use to have Pentium 2, and i hated that what i can do to it is very limited.
you do not need to worry any longer, current intel cpu`s are much updated these days
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#4472537 Posted on: 12/05/2012 11:16 PM
now only if AMD would produce a cpu that could match/beat intels high end , well we can all dream lol
now only if AMD would produce a cpu that could match/beat intels high end , well we can all dream lol
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#4472540 Posted on: 12/05/2012 11:21 PM
My next build will be AMD regardless. Probably 90% of what I do is browse forums and watch movies. Don't exactly need a high-end system for that. Just sitting back, waiting for AMD's next APU generation to launch.
My next build will be AMD regardless. Probably 90% of what I do is browse forums and watch movies. Don't exactly need a high-end system for that. Just sitting back, waiting for AMD's next APU generation to launch.
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#4472706 Posted on: 12/06/2012 03:01 AM
Even if Intel was to go down the non socketed route, which I am pretty sure the report didn't say, but hypotheticals and all, not really sure what the big issue is?
Surely all this would do is force the Mobo / CPU market down the same route as the GPU market, i.e Intel release a reference design for the chip and mobo they have and then the board makers can chose weather or not to make their own version of it, make an OC'd variant, and for those clever guys out there take the chip and just stick it on a board of their own design. Okay so it will limit the potential number of CPU / Mobo combos that are out there but end of the day does it really matter?
I don't even think the issue with upgrading IS actually an issue either. If you chose smart when you build the rig you shouldn't need to upgrade. I got an I5 750 that is still ticking over nicely with no plans to upgrade it in the near future, even if I wanted to their are hardly any CPUs that support the socket now so I would need to buy a new Mobo anyway.
Even if Intel was to go down the non socketed route, which I am pretty sure the report didn't say, but hypotheticals and all, not really sure what the big issue is?
Surely all this would do is force the Mobo / CPU market down the same route as the GPU market, i.e Intel release a reference design for the chip and mobo they have and then the board makers can chose weather or not to make their own version of it, make an OC'd variant, and for those clever guys out there take the chip and just stick it on a board of their own design. Okay so it will limit the potential number of CPU / Mobo combos that are out there but end of the day does it really matter?
I don't even think the issue with upgrading IS actually an issue either. If you chose smart when you build the rig you shouldn't need to upgrade. I got an I5 750 that is still ticking over nicely with no plans to upgrade it in the near future, even if I wanted to their are hardly any CPUs that support the socket now so I would need to buy a new Mobo anyway.
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#4472731 Posted on: 12/06/2012 03:35 AM
Intel is a company in transition, crazy ideas will be thrown around but it doesn't mean that they will come to fruition. They may do that for low power systems but that's it.
Glad to see AMD make their opinion clear. I hope they get back on track.
Intel is a company in transition, crazy ideas will be thrown around but it doesn't mean that they will come to fruition. They may do that for low power systems but that's it.
Glad to see AMD make their opinion clear. I hope they get back on track.
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well that wont stop intel from trying to control the OEM, remember the case a few years ago, when intel was trying to control what brand of CPU OEM can offer and sell to customers ?