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Rumor: Polaris validation Failed Might Launch in October Now
Okay before I start on this news-item, I really need to state that this is based on a vague rumor, nothing has been confirmed or denied otherwise. Here's the story, some reports say Polaris 10 can't hit 850 MHz reliably and that availability will be pushed back to October. I sincerely hope the rumor is not true.
The news arrived through Nordic Hardware saying that AMD's partners "won't have any new cards to display at Computex and the only Polaris cards promoted to them from AMD are R9 390/390X performance class but for a mid-range price. Reports say Polaris 10 can't hit 850 MHz reliably, whereas Nvidia already demoed the 2000 MHz marker with their GPUs.
A board partner response seem to be "as of now, no information".
Rumor indicates that this info is backed by a rather large AMD partner, that there will be no Polaris-based video cards from AMD partners at Computex. That means no Polaris on Computex and no availability of the cards shortly thereafter (if this is true).
If true, man can AMD please catch a break ...
AMD Shows Polaris 10 and Polaris 11 ASIC Images - 05/02/2016 06:53 AM
Well .. a little bit as it isn't much. On a new webpage from AMD that are teasing the new Polaris architecture. It's highlighting features as 4th gen. Graphics CoreNext, 4K H.265 60 Hz game-streami...
AMD Polaris 10 GPU To Offer Near 980 Ti Performance For 299 USD? - 04/26/2016 09:03 AM
An interesting news item appeared on game debate yesterday, they claim that AMD held an event in Taiwan and has been showcasing it's upcoming Polaris GPUs. The interesting bit is that Polaris 10 woul...
New AMD roadmap gives more insight in polaris 10 and 11 - 04/21/2016 08:07 AM
A new roadmap appeared online from AMD, in this roadmap you can spot some plans for the future graphics cards based on the Polaris 10 and 11 GPU design. The roadmap also makes it pretty clear that the...
PlayStation 4K SoC Could Feature 2304 Stream processors based AMD Polaris GPU - 04/19/2016 03:57 PM
So the story goes like this, the upcoming upgraded PlayStation 4 is tagged under Codename NEO and is based upon an upgraded CPU, GPU, RAM. The custom SoC chip that empowers it all will get 8 CPU core...
AMD Polaris 11 in shows CompuBench has 1024 Shader processors - 04/11/2016 09:06 AM
This is a pretty intersting find, in the CompuBench database some device entries of AMD Polaris 11 (the entry level to mainstream SKU) has appeared. It's all a bit dodgy to dig out, but each graphi...
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#5271428 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:08 PM
"IF TRUE" I'm gonna cry on the dust of AMD lol. Zen CPU might become their only hope lol.
"IF TRUE" I'm gonna cry on the dust of AMD lol. Zen CPU might become their only hope lol.
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#5271429 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:08 PM
Jesus ****ing Christ... What's going on with AMD!?! i mean, all roads were leading to a impressive Polaris lineup, with the GPU brand now standalone and how great fury and older gpu's are handling dx12 and so..this sh!t smells weird, i can't believe the Radeon group, who is making GPU's for how long now and who pushed on the market most of the GPU tech we are using today, is having this kind of problems with their chips.
Something stinks.
Jesus ****ing Christ... What's going on with AMD!?! i mean, all roads were leading to a impressive Polaris lineup, with the GPU brand now standalone and how great fury and older gpu's are handling dx12 and so..this sh!t smells weird, i can't believe the Radeon group, who is making GPU's for how long now and who pushed on the market most of the GPU tech we are using today, is having this kind of problems with their chips.
Something stinks.
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#5271431 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:11 PM
Wow if true that could be diabolical!
Wow if true that could be diabolical!
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#5271437 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:15 PM
Some rumors to make competition to fall asleep on their big cash.
Jesus ****ing Christ... What's going on with AMD!?! i mean, all roads were leading to a impressive Polaris lineup, with the GPU brand now standalone and how great fury and older gpu's are handling dx12 and so..this sh!t smells weird, i can't believe the Radeon group, who is making GPU's for how long now and who pushed on the market most of the GPU tech we are using today, is having this kind of problems with their chips.
Something stinks.
Errr ..rumors,bias???Nvidia rushed their new Pascal,which looks like Maxwell v2.
Some rumors to make competition to fall asleep on their big cash.
Jesus ****ing Christ... What's going on with AMD!?! i mean, all roads were leading to a impressive Polaris lineup, with the GPU brand now standalone and how great fury and older gpu's are handling dx12 and so..this sh!t smells weird, i can't believe the Radeon group, who is making GPU's for how long now and who pushed on the market most of the GPU tech we are using today, is having this kind of problems with their chips.
Something stinks.
Errr ..rumors,bias???Nvidia rushed their new Pascal,which looks like Maxwell v2.
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#5271438 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:17 PM
It's just a rumor for now. Hope is not true. This would be bad for everyone.
Pascal is more than Maxwell V2. This is a very dumb comment.
It's just a rumor for now. Hope is not true. This would be bad for everyone.
Nvidia rushed their new Pascal,which looks like Maxwell v2.
Pascal is more than Maxwell V2. This is a very dumb comment.
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#5271439 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:18 PM
That doesn't even make sense. If it isn't true then Nvidia's schedule is unchanged.
They didn't rush Pascal, Pascal if anything is late. The design was done a while ago, manufacturing held it back. Volta is launching in 2017 for the HPC market. They have a contract with Oak Ridge for SUMMIT super computer.
Some rumors to make competition to fall asleep on their big cash.
That doesn't even make sense. If it isn't true then Nvidia's schedule is unchanged.
Errr ..rumors,bias???Nvidia rushed their new Pascal,which looks like Maxwell v2.
They didn't rush Pascal, Pascal if anything is late. The design was done a while ago, manufacturing held it back. Volta is launching in 2017 for the HPC market. They have a contract with Oak Ridge for SUMMIT super computer.
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#5271443 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:31 PM
This would be some bad news
Let's hope it don't get confirmed
This would be some bad news
Let's hope it don't get confirmed
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#5271446 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:37 PM
That doesn't even make sense. If it isn't true then Nvidia's schedule is unchanged.
They didn't rush Pascal, Pascal if anything is late. The design was done a while ago, manufacturing held it back. Volta is launching in 2017 for the HPC market. They have a contract with Oak Ridge for SUMMIT super computer.
On OCN and in this article:
http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-directx-12-benchmarks-async-compute/
But only in DirectX 12 games will know if its true
That doesn't even make sense. If it isn't true then Nvidia's schedule is unchanged.
They didn't rush Pascal, Pascal if anything is late. The design was done a while ago, manufacturing held it back. Volta is launching in 2017 for the HPC market. They have a contract with Oak Ridge for SUMMIT super computer.
On OCN and in this article:
http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-directx-12-benchmarks-async-compute/
But only in DirectX 12 games will know if its true
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#5271448 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:38 PM
Could be Samsung inexperience of making GPU's @ high MHz on 14nm Finfet node. Whereas Nvidia is using TSMC as usual.
Could be Samsung inexperience of making GPU's @ high MHz on 14nm Finfet node. Whereas Nvidia is using TSMC as usual.
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#5271453 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:41 PM
On OCN and in this article:
http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-directx-12-benchmarks-async-compute/
But only in DirectX 12 games will know if its true
If what is true? Pascal doesn't have Async Compute. We know that -- that doesn't mean it was rushed.
Could be Samsung inexperience of making GPU's @ high MHz on 14nm Finfet node. Whereas Nvidia is using TSMC as usual.
Eh, potentially. They usually get engineering samples from the foundries way before they spin silicon on it though. For example, there was a video recently about Nvidia's chip failure lab (where they detect issues with chips coming back from the foundries to fix them) and the guy mentioned that they were already receiving 10nm test chips from foundries. So I kind of find it hard to believe that AMD didn't know that clock speeds would be an issue, unless they completely skipped that or decided to design around it somehow.
On OCN and in this article:
http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-directx-12-benchmarks-async-compute/
But only in DirectX 12 games will know if its true
If what is true? Pascal doesn't have Async Compute. We know that -- that doesn't mean it was rushed.
Could be Samsung inexperience of making GPU's @ high MHz on 14nm Finfet node. Whereas Nvidia is using TSMC as usual.
Eh, potentially. They usually get engineering samples from the foundries way before they spin silicon on it though. For example, there was a video recently about Nvidia's chip failure lab (where they detect issues with chips coming back from the foundries to fix them) and the guy mentioned that they were already receiving 10nm test chips from foundries. So I kind of find it hard to believe that AMD didn't know that clock speeds would be an issue, unless they completely skipped that or decided to design around it somehow.
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#5271454 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:43 PM
If this is true, bad very bad AMD
If this is true, bad very bad AMD
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#5271458 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:49 PM
Will see in time,you know,like Maxwell.
From Ocn:
- Ellesmere XT currently on A0 testing phase.
- Ellesmere XT estimated to reach A1 phase by 3rd week of May, only by then the specs will be finalised.
- Ellesmere Pro and Baffin currently not even reach A0 phase.
- Baffin reference PCB will be 4 layer board + single fan, board length slightly shorter than Nano.
- Ellesmere XT reference PCB will be 6 layer board + single fan, board length slightly longer than Nano.
- AIB will release both single fan and dual fan version of Ellesmere XT cards but not triple fan one.
As from Amd Radeon history the XT is the fastest chip from them.The Pro version is mainstream.
If what is true? Pascal doesn't have Async Compute. We know that -- that doesn't mean it was rushed.
Will see in time,you know,like Maxwell.
From Ocn:
- Ellesmere XT currently on A0 testing phase.
- Ellesmere XT estimated to reach A1 phase by 3rd week of May, only by then the specs will be finalised.
- Ellesmere Pro and Baffin currently not even reach A0 phase.
- Baffin reference PCB will be 4 layer board + single fan, board length slightly shorter than Nano.
- Ellesmere XT reference PCB will be 6 layer board + single fan, board length slightly longer than Nano.
- AIB will release both single fan and dual fan version of Ellesmere XT cards but not triple fan one.
As from Amd Radeon history the XT is the fastest chip from them.The Pro version is mainstream.
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#5271464 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:51 PM
I can't help but wonder ... people keep using Ashes to test for Async, but didn't Ashes turn off async for NVIDIA (on their request)? Or did they get a special version where this is turned back on?
Well, proper benchmarks will eventually tell.
If what is true? Pascal doesn't have Async Compute. We know that -- that doesn't mean it was rushed.
I can't help but wonder ... people keep using Ashes to test for Async, but didn't Ashes turn off async for NVIDIA (on their request)? Or did they get a special version where this is turned back on?
Well, proper benchmarks will eventually tell.
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#5271469 Posted on: 05/12/2016 02:54 PM
Stocks are gonna drop for sure, sad situation if true.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AMD#symbol=AMD;range=1d
Stocks are gonna drop for sure, sad situation if true.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AMD#symbol=AMD;range=1d
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