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Guru3D.com » News » NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti now rumored to be released at CES 2017

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti now rumored to be released at CES 2017

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/30/2016 07:37 AM | Source | 15 comment(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti now rumored to be released at CES 2017

A new rumor surfaced on the product that will sit inbetween the GeForce GTX 1080 and Titan X (Pascal), the 1080 Ti surfaces again. Word right now is that the card will be released in the CES timeframe (1st week of January 2017).

The rumor originates from zol.com.cn who also claims a 1503 GPU frequency with a 1623 Boost freuqency. But they might have well taken the specs from charts like ours (we can calculate stff like TMUs/ memory bandwidth  and GFLOPs based on specs)

The product has 52 shader clusters (SM) totalling towards 3328 shader processors and DDR5 memory. The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti will be using the GP102 silicon, similar as used for Pascal TitanX, however it has 4 out of 30 shader processor clusters disabled, so that is 3,328 shader processors. If you do the math then your TMU count would get to 208 with a ROP count of 96. According to the screenshot the GPU itself will be clocked at 1503 MHz and 1623 MHz on the GPU Boost. Two things really jump out here, the memory remains GDDR5 not GDDR5X as Pascal Titan X is using and then the shader count has been decreased towards 3328 shader cores, which is still 768 more compared to the GeForce GTX 1080. 

The numbers add up tyowards a 10.8 GFLOP/s single precision performing product.  Charted up it looks like this:

    

  
Reference GeForceTitan X GTX 1080 TiGTX 1080GTX 1070GTX 1060 
  (2016 edition)        
GPU GP102-400-A1 GP102-200-A1 GP104-400-A1 GP104-200-A1 GP106-400-A1
Architecture Pascal Pascal Pascal Pascal Pascal
Transistor count 12 Billion 12 Billion 7.2 Billion 7.2 Billion 4.4 Billion
Fabrication Node TSMC 16 nm TSMC 16 nm TSMC 16 nm TSMC 16 nm TSMC 16 nm
CUDA Cores 3,584 3,328 2,560 1,920 1,280
SMMs / SMXs 28 26 20 15 10
ROPs 96 96 64 64 48
GPU Clock Core 1,417 MHz 1,503 MHz 1,607 MHz 1,506 MHz 1,506 MHz
GPU Boost clock 1,531 MHz 1,623 MHz 1,733 MHz 1,683 MHz 1,709 MHz
Memory Clock 2,500 MHz 1,250 MHz 1,250 MHz 2,000 MHz 2,000 MHz
Memory Size 12 GB 12 GB 8 GB 8 GB 3 GB / 6 GB
Memory Bus 384-bit 384-bit 256-bit 256-bit 192-bit
Memory Bandwidth 480 GB/s 384 GB/s 320 GB/s 256 GB/s 192 GB/s
FP Performance 11.0 TFLOPS 10.0 TFLOPS 9.0 TFLOPS 6.45 TFLOPS 4.61 TFLOPS
GPU Thermal Threshold 94 Degrees C 94 Degrees C 94 Degrees C 94 Degrees C 94 Degrees C
TDP 250 Watts 250 Watts 180 Watts 150 Watts 120 Watts
Launch MSRP ref $1200 $899 (esti) $599/$699 $379/$449 $249/$299

 
GDDR5 memory would bring in 384GB/s of memory bandwidth, which would be the deal-breaker over a Titan X with its 480GB/s of bandwidth. It is still more then the 1080 though. The card will get a 250 Watt TDP. Pricing wise we know nothing of course, but the 1080 is at 699 USD, the Titan X at 1200 USD .. so somewhere in the middle ?

We are not sure why the product qould launch at CES though, if DDR5 is used, productions should not be an issue and the Christmas season would make way more sense.







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#5344041 Posted on: 10/10/2016 06:34 PM
so... The say nvidia revenue goes up 24% from a year ago after they release new cards 24% more expensive... intresting...

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#5344124 Posted on: 10/10/2016 09:36 PM
Looking at this the normal 1050 will be exactly the same as the GTX 950, less shaders but it's clock speeds will make up for it but ultimately if you have a GTX 950 the 1050 is a worthless upgrade.

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#5344125 Posted on: 10/10/2016 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazz View Post
Looking at this the normal 1050 will be exactly the same as the GTX 950, less shaders but it's clock speeds will make up for it but ultimately if you have a GTX 950 the 1050 is a worthless upgrade.
QFT

This product is purely for OEM. Though I would like to see power figures.

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#5344131 Posted on: 10/10/2016 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Loophole35 View Post
QFT

This product is purely for OEM.
Not really. Yes, it would be stupid to get this if you already have a 950 or higher. But if you skipped that generation and have an older budget card this might be a good budget upgrade.
It's stupid to upgrade any card every generation.

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#5344199 Posted on: 10/11/2016 01:41 AM
You said "That would be faster then a Radeon RX 460 reports VideoCardz."

"Then?" I believe it would be faster THAN a Radeon RX 460."



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#5344215 Posted on: 10/11/2016 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chronek View Post
so... The say nvidia revenue goes up 24% from a year ago after they release new cards 24% more expensive... intresting...
...what

GTX 950 at launch, $159

GTX 1050 at launch, $119

GTX 1050 ti at launch, $139

So....24% more expensive means what to you?

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#5344244 Posted on: 10/11/2016 05:10 AM
@chronek
lol, just because you sell something for 24% more, doesnt mean your revenue increases by the same amount.
2nd, a 1070 is now around 350, same like a 970. and even if its 400$, that would just mean an increase of 15%.

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#5344275 Posted on: 10/11/2016 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hapkiman View Post
You said "That would be faster then a Radeon RX 460 reports VideoCardz."

"Then?" I believe it would be faster THAN a Radeon RX 460."

and it's easy as the GTX950 is already faster

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#5344278 Posted on: 10/11/2016 08:21 AM
Won't somebody please think of madVR?!?

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#5344286 Posted on: 10/11/2016 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Aura89 View Post
...what

GTX 950 at launch, $159

GTX 1050 at launch, $119

GTX 1050 ti at launch, $139

So....24% more expensive means what to you?
I said that about every card that nvidia released this year, why i should mention 1050 ti when even 1080 can barely play new games at 30 fps? And statistic said most buyed 1080, yes 1050 have good price, but still is a crap, and nvidia increase revenue saying that if you can not afford sli 1080 then buy 1050 ti

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#5344290 Posted on: 10/11/2016 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fry178 View Post
@chronek
lol, just because you sell something for 24% more, doesnt mean your revenue increases by the same amount.
2nd, a 1070 is now around 350, same like a 970. and even if its 400$, that would just mean an increase of 15%.
Most buy this year was 1080, and in my country 1080 is 840$, when 980 i bought 670$, it is a bit more then 24% price increase (on most bought product), and nvidia announce 24% revenue increase, i just point that..

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#5344364 Posted on: 10/11/2016 12:35 PM
I think the only way Nvidia can increase revenues at this point is price increases since I doubt they can increase market share anymore since amd has stolen some back.

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#5344604 Posted on: 10/11/2016 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by icedman View Post
I think the only way Nvidia can increase revenues at this point is price increases since I doubt they can increase market share anymore since amd has stolen some back.
not so easy, if you look closer to stat VS enviromental

AMD concentrate effort on middle segment (the one where you earn money btw), and where maxwell series is a hit (despite the small bus of the gtx960 ) , NVidia is nearly nowhere on laptop segment and AMD on pro segment where the other color can be bought and are in stock lol... also don't forget that APU is still counted as GPU as intel IGP.

at the end the real winner is still blue...

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#5344631 Posted on: 10/11/2016 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chronek View Post
I said that about every card that nvidia released this year, why i should mention 1050 ti when even 1080 can barely play new games at 30 fps? And statistic said most buyed 1080, yes 1050 have good price, but still is a crap, and nvidia increase revenue saying that if you can not afford sli 1080 then buy 1050 ti
wtf are you on about?

This thread that we are talking about is about the 1050/1050 Ti, of which you said were more expensive, of which obviously as shown and proven, are not

Are you saying you're going into each thread and purposefully spewing crap that has nothing to do with the thread topic? Good job being a troll

In regards to "revenue" and "increases in price" etc.

People don't realize: inflation

Hercules Graphics Card released in 1982 - $499 - with inflation $1245.45

Geforce 2 Ultra release price in 2000 - $500 - with inflation $699.34

Geforce 3 release price in 2001 - $500 - with inflation 680.38

GeForce 6800 Ultra Extreme release price in 2004 - $600 - with inflation $765.02

This list goes on and on, so yes, we have some "super" cards, aka the titans and the like, which SHOULDN'T be considered what use to be high end just becoming more expensive due to the nature of those cards (realistically, other then maybe the GTX 8800 Ultra, which today would have cost 962.98, there really hasn't been cards similar to the titans before), but other then those, we're still riding the same basic costs for cards, if not lower

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Originally Posted by chronek View Post
Most buy this year was 1080, and in my country 1080 is 840$, when 980 i bought 670$, it is a bit more then 24% price increase (on most bought product), and nvidia announce 24% revenue increase, i just point that..
So you're blaming your countries inability to price things correctly...on nvidia. That's cool.

GTX 1080 is $599.99 for basic model

GTX 980 was $549.99 for basic model

If there's not a 50 dollar USD equivalent difference, that's your countries/retailers fault. Gotta love people who don't understand that.

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#5344634 Posted on: 10/11/2016 08:48 PM
Single slot please.....

Also folks, let's keep it civil here.

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