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Intel Haswell to be easier to overclock
Some leaked PDF files that have been shown on IDF make it clear that Haswell will be easier to overclock. Intel said improvements have been made to the way you can overclock Haswell, making the process similar to tweaking Sandy Bridge-E CPUs. Interesting to see BTW is that the core multiplier ratios will go up to 80 with Haswell, nice.
Haswell should be fairly similar to the say the Core i7 3820 (Sandy Bridge-E) as it will allow both multiplier based overclocking and base clock overclocking when multipliers are locked in. You will be able to tweak your baseclock by 5-7% at three different presents – 100MHz, 125MHz and 167MHz. The reason why Intel quotes only 5-7% variance at those presets is because too much BCLK changing can cause instability in the PCI-Express and DMI-PLL. It is good to know that you will be able to overclock the chips, not just the K versions. There will be three base frequencies to which a multiplier can be applied: 100 MHz, 125 MHz, and 166 MHz. Several uncore frequency ratios will adjust themselves to compensate, thus leaving their stability unaffected.
Haswell will get integrated voltage regulation too brininging each CPU an integrated VRM controller. Unlocked “-K” chips remain to have an as they can reach 8 GHz record (subzero cooling) as their base clock multiplier for the CPU cores are higher than on the others, of up to 80.0x for 100 MHz, up to 64.0x for 125 MHz, and up to 48.0x for 166 MHz.
Memory overclocking is going to be popular with Haswell. Intel is to offer support for 200 MHz steps up to 2.6GHz and 266MHz steps up to 2.66GHz on memory frequency. The maxed out memory data rate supported will be a nice 2.93GHz !
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#4578222 Posted on: 04/17/2013 01:33 AM
Jeez we are just discussing here
there's no need to be ironic by saying "How did I ever figure out Intel's master plan?" (sorry if i got this definition wrong as my English is not 100% perfect) I am sure you know that all cpu's go through various stress testing and quality control to ensure 100% stability at stock clocks and it is already a well known fact that Intel cheaped out with a bad choice of using tim instead of fluxless solder for Ivy bridge thus limiting it greatly from it's overclocking potential due to the heat .And i am not saying Intel sabotages all its parts for the 0.1% of people that overclock their CPU i was referring to Ivy bridge only.
Please let's just stay on topic about Haswell I really hope it turns out to be a great cpu with great overclocking headroom.
It was sarcasm, don't take it personally.
Personally, I feel that we should be grateful to Intel for continuing to make an SKU that is O/C. Especially considering its market leading position.
Jeez we are just discussing here
there's no need to be ironic by saying "How did I ever figure out Intel's master plan?" (sorry if i got this definition wrong as my English is not 100% perfect) I am sure you know that all cpu's go through various stress testing and quality control to ensure 100% stability at stock clocks and it is already a well known fact that Intel cheaped out with a bad choice of using tim instead of fluxless solder for Ivy bridge thus limiting it greatly from it's overclocking potential due to the heat .And i am not saying Intel sabotages all its parts for the 0.1% of people that overclock their CPU i was referring to Ivy bridge only.
Please let's just stay on topic about Haswell I really hope it turns out to be a great cpu with great overclocking headroom.
It was sarcasm, don't take it personally.
Personally, I feel that we should be grateful to Intel for continuing to make an SKU that is O/C. Especially considering its market leading position.
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#4578228 Posted on: 04/17/2013 01:49 AM
It was sarcasm, don't take it personally.
Personally, I feel that we should be grateful to Intel for continuing to make an SKU that is O/C. Especially considering its market leading position.
Sorry about that and don,t worry i am not taking it personally
Yeh i feel the same about Intel with practically no competition for per core performance which matters the most I would love to see what oc this chip can achieve with high end air cooling 6ghz????
It was sarcasm, don't take it personally.
Personally, I feel that we should be grateful to Intel for continuing to make an SKU that is O/C. Especially considering its market leading position.
Sorry about that and don,t worry i am not taking it personally
Yeh i feel the same about Intel with practically no competition for per core performance which matters the most I would love to see what oc this chip can achieve with high end air cooling 6ghz????
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#4578230 Posted on: 04/17/2013 01:51 AM
I'd be happy if 5.5GHz (maybe 125x44?) is possible with standard cooling like high end air or those crappy self contained water coolers. I'd settle for 5.
I'd be happy if 5.5GHz (maybe 125x44?) is possible with standard cooling like high end air or those crappy self contained water coolers. I'd settle for 5.
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#4579105 Posted on: 04/18/2013 06:09 AM
Eh i just sold my 3570k for a 3770k ..just for the 8mb of cache and the 8 hyperthreads, plus i got a good deal on selling my 3570k and got a good deal on using that money towards a new 3770k....i am completely fine at 4.4 and 4.6ghz which i can achieve on air cooling with my new 3770k chip...and like i mentioned..i really wanted the extra hyper threading and the added mb's to the cache for future gaming...wanted a cpu that will last me a while and now knowing that Haswell wont be introducing any new consumer based proc's with more than 4 cores besides their extreme line of cpu's..i am definitely not jumping up for joy for haswell because as it stands its not really a huge jump over i7 IB chips honestly...heck in terms of gaming including 1st and 2nd gen core chips and current 3rd gen ivy bridge chips...they will be more than enough to handle anything thrown at them with these next gen games coming out. I believe the i7 chips will really begin to benefit with the hyper threading though....that was the reason for me swapping out my 3570k for the 3770k...so im set and so is anyone else with a 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen icore chip when we are talking about gaming "UNLESS" you are currently in the market for a new build i suggest to wait for haswell as its just right around the corner but overall...i just think the hyper threading chips will see a benefit in the near future..it already does with the first next gen game to come out which i feel Crysis 3 truly is when you see that game running with all maxed out settings...its above and beyond any other game to date visually and i seen a 15 frame rate increase from my 3570k to my new 3770k chip...i am not sure if the more cache played the biggest role in the increase or the extra threading...but from what i've read around many various computer hardware forums...its the hyperhreading that Crysis 3 uses as an advantage for performance increases.
I didnt see any frame rate difference from 4.4ghz to 4.6ghz though..so im sticking with 4.4ghz with my 3770k for now.
I will be passing up on Haswell and will upgrade in 2-3 years later..heck anyone with a 1st gen i7 cpu are fine compared to what these new consoles will have under their hood so the next gen console to pc ports with current PC cpu's are fine and more than enough ....so anyone worried about their Intel icore chip...got nothing to worry about...keep in mind im just talking aboug being able to play next gen games..im not talking about having the best benchmark scores,etc...im personally not interested in that..i just want my rig to be able to play next gen games fine....i think most of in here are like-minded and as it still stands true today..the GPU still plays the bigger role in it all anyways...lol thats why i got ride of my 7870 and picked up a sapphire dual-x 7970 which is OC'd to 1150core/1600memory....it can go higher but i dont like having to push my voltage on the gpu past 1.3 volts which is what i gotta do to get 1200core
Eh i just sold my 3570k for a 3770k ..just for the 8mb of cache and the 8 hyperthreads, plus i got a good deal on selling my 3570k and got a good deal on using that money towards a new 3770k....i am completely fine at 4.4 and 4.6ghz which i can achieve on air cooling with my new 3770k chip...and like i mentioned..i really wanted the extra hyper threading and the added mb's to the cache for future gaming...wanted a cpu that will last me a while and now knowing that Haswell wont be introducing any new consumer based proc's with more than 4 cores besides their extreme line of cpu's..i am definitely not jumping up for joy for haswell because as it stands its not really a huge jump over i7 IB chips honestly...heck in terms of gaming including 1st and 2nd gen core chips and current 3rd gen ivy bridge chips...they will be more than enough to handle anything thrown at them with these next gen games coming out. I believe the i7 chips will really begin to benefit with the hyper threading though....that was the reason for me swapping out my 3570k for the 3770k...so im set and so is anyone else with a 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen icore chip when we are talking about gaming "UNLESS" you are currently in the market for a new build i suggest to wait for haswell as its just right around the corner but overall...i just think the hyper threading chips will see a benefit in the near future..it already does with the first next gen game to come out which i feel Crysis 3 truly is when you see that game running with all maxed out settings...its above and beyond any other game to date visually and i seen a 15 frame rate increase from my 3570k to my new 3770k chip...i am not sure if the more cache played the biggest role in the increase or the extra threading...but from what i've read around many various computer hardware forums...its the hyperhreading that Crysis 3 uses as an advantage for performance increases.
I didnt see any frame rate difference from 4.4ghz to 4.6ghz though..so im sticking with 4.4ghz with my 3770k for now.
I will be passing up on Haswell and will upgrade in 2-3 years later..heck anyone with a 1st gen i7 cpu are fine compared to what these new consoles will have under their hood so the next gen console to pc ports with current PC cpu's are fine and more than enough ....so anyone worried about their Intel icore chip...got nothing to worry about...keep in mind im just talking aboug being able to play next gen games..im not talking about having the best benchmark scores,etc...im personally not interested in that..i just want my rig to be able to play next gen games fine....i think most of in here are like-minded and as it still stands true today..the GPU still plays the bigger role in it all anyways...lol thats why i got ride of my 7870 and picked up a sapphire dual-x 7970 which is OC'd to 1150core/1600memory....it can go higher but i dont like having to push my voltage on the gpu past 1.3 volts which is what i gotta do to get 1200core
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#4579108 Posted on: 04/18/2013 06:15 AM
PS i sorta had to crack up when i read the title "Intel Haswell to be easier to overclock" lol
Some nice thought-out PR there
PS i sorta had to crack up when i read the title "Intel Haswell to be easier to overclock" lol
Some nice thought-out PR there
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#4579113 Posted on: 04/18/2013 06:29 AM
Easier? I didn't know it was hard to overclock.
Easier? I didn't know it was hard to overclock.
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#4579483 Posted on: 04/18/2013 07:16 PM
Good, good. Higher OCs will compensate a little bit for the lack of proper increases in frequency and clock for clock performance over the last FIVE YEARS. Welcome to the lack of competition.
Honestly it feels like 1 step above Nehalem, and those were released in 2008 weren't they? In fact I'm still using a Nehalem chip and I'm not the only one.
The market is really pointing in a different direction. It's smaller bumps in performance in constantly smaller form factors.
Good, good. Higher OCs will compensate a little bit for the lack of proper increases in frequency and clock for clock performance over the last FIVE YEARS. Welcome to the lack of competition.
Honestly it feels like 1 step above Nehalem, and those were released in 2008 weren't they? In fact I'm still using a Nehalem chip and I'm not the only one.
The market is really pointing in a different direction. It's smaller bumps in performance in constantly smaller form factors.
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#4579511 Posted on: 04/18/2013 07:56 PM
Good, good. Higher OCs will compensate a little bit for the lack of proper increases in frequency and clock for clock performance over the last FIVE YEARS. Welcome to the lack of competition.
Honestly it feels like 1 step above Nehalem, and those were released in 2008 weren't they? In fact I'm still using a Nehalem chip and I'm not the only one.
It's the lack of competition like you mentioned that is holding greater increases in cpu performance back.And your right about feeling like 1 step above Nehalem.
If only Amd's 8 core cpu's were on par or outperformed Intel's core i7 cpu's on per clock performance i am sure we would be seeing greater increases than 10 to 15% each generation.
Good, good. Higher OCs will compensate a little bit for the lack of proper increases in frequency and clock for clock performance over the last FIVE YEARS. Welcome to the lack of competition.
Honestly it feels like 1 step above Nehalem, and those were released in 2008 weren't they? In fact I'm still using a Nehalem chip and I'm not the only one.
It's the lack of competition like you mentioned that is holding greater increases in cpu performance back.And your right about feeling like 1 step above Nehalem.
If only Amd's 8 core cpu's were on par or outperformed Intel's core i7 cpu's on per clock performance i am sure we would be seeing greater increases than 10 to 15% each generation.
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#4579783 Posted on: 04/19/2013 05:23 AM
Plus higher efficiency, but I guess that comes along with smaller form factors.
The market is really pointing in a different direction. It's smaller bumps in performance in constantly smaller form factors.
Plus higher efficiency, but I guess that comes along with smaller form factors.
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I said feels. And it indeed feels like 1 evolutionary step to me. The real world performance difference per step was not all that much.