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EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 Have Overheating Issues

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/24/2016 02:21 PM | Source | 73 comment(s)
EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 Have Overheating Issues

There is chatter on the web that EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 graphics card are overheating resulting into a black screen. Initially people figured this to be the memory issue exposed last week. The company made a statement and issues a fix.

However reports from end users and some testing at Toms Hardware indicate overheating. Some users even reported the card dying completely. From the looks of it the issue has been uncovered due to the absence of any thermal pads over the VRM area of the FTW family of graphics cards. Some reports show temperatures running 107 ºC on components on the PCB.

In a forum post at EVGA the company issued the following message/statement:
  

"The test used in the referenced review from Toms Hardware (Germany) is running under Furmark, an extreme usage case, as most overclockers know. We believe this is a good approach to have some idea about the graphics card limit, and the thermal performance under the worst case scenario. EVGA has performed a similar qualification test during the design process, at a higher ambient temperature (30C in chamber) with a thermal coupler probe directly contacting the key components and after the Toms Hardware (Germany) review, we have retested this again. The results in both tests show the temperature of PWM and memory is within the spec tolerance under the same stress test, and is working as originally designed with no issues.

With this being said, EVGA understands that lower temperatures are preferred by reviewers and customers.

During our recent testing, we have applied additional thermal pads between the backplate and the PCB and between the baseplate and the heatsink fins, with the results shown below. We will offer these optional thermal pads free of charge to EVGA owners who want to have a lower temperature. These thermal pads will be ready soon; and customers can request them on Monday, October 24th, 2016. Also, we will work with Toms Hardware to do a retest."

 
We agree that Furmark should not be used to stress a card (way too viral on the board and not emulating game load). End users can receive thermal pads provided to anyone with a GTX 1080 or GTX 1070 with an ACX cooler and a backplate.


While we never reviewed the FTW editions, we did notice and made remarks on high load temperatures in the VRM area in our 1070 SC review. So we think that other models like the SuperClocked editions are effected as well. Our above thermal image was not measured with Furmark but with a 3DMark FireStrike loop.



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SirDremor
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#5350182 Posted on: 10/24/2016 02:52 PM
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)

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#5350193 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SirDremor View Post
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)
yeah seems a bit stupid really, it's like yeah we know people like their cards to run cooler so we will ship cards that run hotter. (ehh ?) or until people moan then we will ship some pads. okie dokie lol

so if they know people like stuff to run cooler why didn't they fit them in first place lol ... hmmm

the R9 390x is a good example of how cooling can be done, with the gpu being an ex-nuke reactor I have to say MSI do a very good job.

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#5350198 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SirDremor View Post
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)
Yeah, but it appeared an NVIDIA FANBOY/troll, trying to start flamewar for no reason.

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#5350200 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SirDremor View Post
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)
Amazing how people feel the need to instigate rivalry or even hate... Come on man... was it even necessary to say stuff like that?

A problem has been found that customers aren't happy with, EVGA have responded to that problem, given a statement that the cards are operating within spec but offered customers an option to put customer's mind's at ease with a simple solution.

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#5350201 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:35 PM
who cares if have some problems, it selling good and revenue skyrocking

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#5350203 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:39 PM
Fan boys ay. Nothing changes.... pathetic...

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#5350204 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SirDremor View Post
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)
Ok, I will bite:

"EVGA has promptly re-titled their EVGA FTW 1080/1070 line to EVGA FTL 1080/1070..."

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#5350206 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SirDremor View Post
Strange still there are no comments from AMD-hysteric-fanboys crying how Nvidia is at fault here, or how "again" Nvidia ruined their cards\PCs\lives.

Regardless it is not good when card manufacturers skip the usage of 1cent thermal pads... (manufacturers, not Nvidia.... AMD-fanboys, I note this specifically for you as your precious AMD-cards may also be affected one day)


Now to dignify this with an actual response: Probably because this is EVGA specifically and not something nVidia did.

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#5350208 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:48 PM
I was on the fence about buying one of the EVGA FTW models of the 1080 since I read the review of the 1070 on here and saw how hot it was getting in those images. Kind of glad I did now.

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#5350210 Posted on: 10/24/2016 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post


Now to dignify this with an actual response: Probably because this is EVGA specifically and not something nVidia did.
well I disagree, Nvidia may not be directly to blame, but they have been tremendously aggressive with their GPU lifecycles lately. this could be having adverse affects on quality control from the vendors. reminds me of Samsung's issue with their phones lately...

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#5350217 Posted on: 10/24/2016 04:01 PM
Thing is for company's like EVGA these pads should of been fitted from the start simply because people like more of a premium built card, and it stops stupid bad press for their company name, if your going to do it, you might as well do it right the first time, rather than faff about.

like EVGA say it's with in spec, but they should know having a bigger margin between the spec will always be favoured, even more so for those who overclock.

and its probs when the card is overclocked it at risk of being well out of spec so these pads should of been worth fitting from day 0 just to keep the masses happy.

surly happy customer is worth the little extra cost, they pass the cost on to the consumer anyway, if they only cost few cents then well, what can ya say....

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#5350228 Posted on: 10/24/2016 04:16 PM
It is Furmark and in extremely heavy conditions. Like, no games today can even achieve that stress enough on graphic cards. Besides that, i believe EVGA give 3 years warranty for their products.

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#5350231 Posted on: 10/24/2016 04:23 PM
I wonder if the card warranty is lost if people order the free thermal pads and remove the backplate and heatsink to install them. After all, they have tampered with the card at that point, which technically should serve as a justification for voiding the warranty.

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#5350234 Posted on: 10/24/2016 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Only Intruder View Post
Amazing how people feel the need to instigate rivalry or even hate... Come on man... was it even necessary to say stuff like that?.
Yes, it was. It was an honest surprise and a preemptive measure against AMD fanboys.
Did you see the Thread regarding 1070 RAM issues? It got totally ruined and f***** by Nvidia-haters.

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#5350241 Posted on: 10/24/2016 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaarme View Post
I wonder if the card warranty is lost if people order the free thermal pads and remove the backplate and heatsink to install them. After all, they have tampered with the card at that point, which technically should serve as a justification for voiding the warranty.
The card is known to be faulty without checking it physically. Shouldn't be a problem.

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