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AMD FreeSync LCD displays to be available in 2015
AMD's Richard Huddy shares word that the first LCD displays that will support FreeSync will sample next month with retail availability in early 2015. Multiple vendors are said to be incorporating the technology.
"Multiple" vendors are preparing displays based on the technology, though Huddy declined to name names. Interestingly, he suggested there's more excitement surrounding adaptive refresh mojo than there is for 4K resolutions. You'll certainly need a lot less graphics horsepower exploit the benefits of a dynamic refresh rate than you will to run games at 4K.
Huddy expects entry-level models to start at 24Hz, which is the most desirable update frequency for typical video. Higher-end implementations could scale up to 144Hz and beyond.
Similar to G-Sync, AMD FreeSync will get rid of screen tearing and tiny sync stuttering/pulsing. The protocol FreeSync / Adaptive Sync will be embedded into DisplayPort 1.2a and eDP (embedded Displayport), there is a catch though, manufacturers of monitors are free to decide wether or not to support the technology. At Computex there are supported monitors on display, AMD however will not reveal the manufacturers just yet. The Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA) already announced the addition of 'Adaptive-Sync' to its popular DisplayPort 1.2a video interface standard.
AMD FreeSync will be adopted by VESA - 04/08/2014 07:53 AM
As you guys know AMD announced a competitive and may I say very cheap solution to tackle Nvidia's Gsync recently, it goes under the name FreeSync. The problem thus far is that monitors need to suppor...
Nvidia responds to AMD FreeSync - 01/08/2014 01:33 PM
Well it was bound to happen sooner rather then later, but Nvidia spoke about AMD FreeSync. The interview is with Tom Petersen who spoke with the guys from techReport. So the credits and everything re...
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#4895656 Posted on: 08/18/2014 01:36 AM
i care about power consumption for heat and noise not the electric bill
and ye i couldnt remember 4 years ago but yea the 5870 was the cooler quieter gpu the 480 was a loud hot beast. now the r9 290x is the loud obnoxious beast
i care about power consumption for heat and noise not the electric bill
and ye i couldnt remember 4 years ago but yea the 5870 was the cooler quieter gpu the 480 was a loud hot beast. now the r9 290x is the loud obnoxious beast
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#4895856 Posted on: 08/18/2014 01:03 PM
Can you really see NVidia supporting this? Probably have to rely on 'hacked' drivers for support.
Can you really see NVidia supporting this? Probably have to rely on 'hacked' drivers for support.
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#4895875 Posted on: 08/18/2014 01:21 PM
Anyhow, I believe it when it hits the reviewers. I'm fairly sure it works, but the drivers need to be adapted to it, and that's where I'm not sure it will work at launch, just like Mantle needed a few patches and updates.
Anyhow, I believe it when it hits the reviewers. I'm fairly sure it works, but the drivers need to be adapted to it, and that's where I'm not sure it will work at launch, just like Mantle needed a few patches and updates.
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#4895892 Posted on: 08/18/2014 01:49 PM
AMD have some good advance on it, as basically they had allready presented this 6 years ago in a whitepaper.
More substantially they have allready the driver.
For Mantle it is more a question to get the game debugged.. Mantle is still new for developper and they have need to learn. Cant really throw a stone to them, 2 patchs for Mantle, when with current games, at release this is more 10 patchs who is needed for correct the few bugs ( and BF4 is a good example for it ).
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More substantially they have allready the driver.
For Mantle it is more a question to get the game debugged.. Mantle is still new for developper and they have need to learn. Cant really throw a stone to them, 2 patchs for Mantle, when with current games, at release this is more 10 patchs who is needed for correct the few bugs ( and BF4 is a good example for it ).
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#4895899 Posted on: 08/18/2014 02:10 PM
Whether NVidia decides to support it or not doesn't change the fact that it's been adopted by VESA and added to the Display Port 1.2a specification. NVidia can either choose to do the right thing and support it or ignore it and screw their customers over. VESA is the organization that decides on standards and specifications for PC display connectivity, not NVidia.
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#4895900 Posted on: 08/18/2014 02:11 PM
I actually considered the optimisation an nvidia topic, if they will ever support it like they do with gsync.
And that's right, I meant Mantle to be a good thing, yet it just didn't work perfect out of the box, but made a fairly good improvement so far! The only thing is, I'm not sure I'd go for it if I had the performance (and gpu) to be able to choose, as I have only seen a single comparison screenshot for BF4 so far, and I thought the iq of dx11 was better than mantle. But I guess that's just my opinion, and a matter of personal taste of how things look. And it was way back, when mantle had it's debut, maybe that has changed now.
No, nvidia never screws over it's customers 
As I said above, I doubt they will fully, and perfectly support it, as it would make their gsync more or less useless, wouldn't it? So I doubt a 100% support.
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AMD have some good advance on it, as basically they had allready presented this 6 years ago in a whitepaper.
More substantially they have allready the driver. For Mantle it is more a question to get the game debugged.. Mantle is still new for developper and they have need to learn. Cant really throw a stone to them, 2 patchs for Mantle, when with current games, at release this is more 10 patchs who is needed for correct the few bugs ( and BF4 is a good example for it ). |
And that's right, I meant Mantle to be a good thing, yet it just didn't work perfect out of the box, but made a fairly good improvement so far! The only thing is, I'm not sure I'd go for it if I had the performance (and gpu) to be able to choose, as I have only seen a single comparison screenshot for BF4 so far, and I thought the iq of dx11 was better than mantle. But I guess that's just my opinion, and a matter of personal taste of how things look. And it was way back, when mantle had it's debut, maybe that has changed now.
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Whether NVidia decides to support it or not doesn't change the fact that it's been adopted by VESA and added to the Display Port 1.2a specification. NVidia can either choose to do the right thing and support it or ignore it and screw their customers over. VESA is the organization that decides on standards and specifications for PC display connectivity, not NVidia.
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As I said above, I doubt they will fully, and perfectly support it, as it would make their gsync more or less useless, wouldn't it? So I doubt a 100% support.
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#4895912 Posted on: 08/18/2014 02:40 PM
If they choose not to support it, they won't be compliant with future Display Port specifications. They'll be stuck at the current spec.
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#4895919 Posted on: 08/18/2014 02:49 PM
As sykozis said they will be forced to support it if they ever want to move forward with displayport.
That being said I'm sure they'll add some value to G-sync in order to make it useful.
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That being said I'm sure they'll add some value to G-sync in order to make it useful.
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#4895932 Posted on: 08/18/2014 03:17 PM
It was a gamma issue on BF4's side on the Mantle codepath, fixed long ago.
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as I have only seen a single comparison screenshot for BF4 so far, and I thought the iq of dx11 was better than mantle. But I guess that's just my opinion, and a matter of personal taste of how things look. And it was way back, when mantle had it's debut, maybe that has changed now.
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#4896460 Posted on: 08/19/2014 06:58 PM
I think you confused the numbers. Your 5870 is nowhere near a 580. It's weaker than a 560 even.
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yea there is.... r9 290x uses more power and produces more heat than gtx 780ti and for all that extra power use im not seeing the performance lead that should be associated with it. AMD lost this round.
I;m not a fanboy either as i own a 5870. I think when the 5870 came out it was against the gtx 580 and the 580 was the more power hungry card then so I went with amd. But they lost this most recent round no doubts about it. I don't rly factor price into it. I'm blessed to be able to afford whatever i really want. |
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#4896504 Posted on: 08/19/2014 08:51 PM
And it's NVidia that decides whether to support it, not VESA!
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#4896535 Posted on: 08/19/2014 10:11 PM
Well I mean if they want to claim DP 1.3 compatibility and onward they are forced to support it so.. yeah, they kinda have to. Not to mention the fact that if Freesync is as good as G-Sync all the nvidia fannerds will just whine until they do. Me included.
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#4896544 Posted on: 08/19/2014 10:46 PM
Nvidia can't claim full DP 1.3 support without supporting freesync. Doing so would be a blatant lie and false advertising. It's support all features or be stuck with DP 1.2
Nvidia can't claim full DP 1.3 support without supporting freesync. Doing so would be a blatant lie and false advertising. It's support all features or be stuck with DP 1.2
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#4896551 Posted on: 08/19/2014 11:01 PM
Adaptive-Sync is an optional feature in DisplayPort 1.2a.
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I;m not a fanboy either as i own a 5870. I think when the 5870 came out it was against the gtx 580 and the 580 was the more power hungry card then so I went with amd. But they lost this most recent round no doubts about it.
I don't rly factor price into it. I'm blessed to be able to afford whatever i really want.
R9 290X draws, according to Hilbert's calculations, 286watts. The GTX780Ti draws, according to Hilbert's calculations, 262watts. That's all the difference at full load. That difference won't even be noticeable on your power bill. Like I said, there's very little difference in power consumption. If you were really "blessed to be able to afford whatever you really want" that difference would be completely meaningless. My HD7950 runs at 100% load 24/7... For me, that difference would be almost noticeable. For a gamer, it wouldn't be noticeable at all. We're talking pennies a year here for gamers.