MSI Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 10 Download

Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 05/22/2013 10:13 AM [ 122 comment(s) ]

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MSI Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 10 Download - Guru3D and MSI have been working hard on AfterBurner, today we release an updated this Beta revision of Afterburner, this application successfully secured the leading position on graphics card utilities.

Today we release an updated Beta revision of Afterburner, this application successfully secured the leading position on graphics card utilities. We're happy to see MSI Afterburner is leading the overclock applications. MSI Afterburner is ready, this version supports the control of NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan, if you get the card, you may want to try it.

Change list:

Improved hardware monitoring module architecture with better extendibility
Added temperature limit, power limit, voltage limit and maximum overvoltage limit graphs to hardware monitoring module for release 320 and newer NVIDIA driver. The graphs help you to understand the reasons of realtime performance limitations (e.g. reaching power target) on GPU Boost compatible graphics cards
Added framebuffer, video engine and bus controller usage graphs for NVIDIA graphics cards to hardware monitoring module
Added generic NVAPI videomemory usage monitoring for NVIDIA graphics cards unattached to Windows desktop (e.g. dedicated PhysX accelerators)
Updated power reporting for release 320 and newer NVIDIA drivers. Now MSI Afterburner reports normalized total power according to NVIDIA recommendations
Added core voltage control for reference design NVIDIA GeForce GTX 7x0 series graphics cards
Added core voltage control for reference design AMD RADEON 7990 graphics cards with VT1556 voltage regulators
Build number is now displayed in “i” window and in application tray icon tooltip
Localizable installer files for third party translators are now included in distributive in .\SDK\Localization\Installer folder
Now RivaTuner Statistics Server installer is being started by MSI Afterburner installer to make installation process easier for beginners. The server distributive is being copied to .\Redist\RTSSSetup.exe during MSI Afterburner installation, so you may always install it later if necessary
RivaTuner Statistics Server has been upgraded to version 5.1.2

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Pill Monster
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#4555748 Posted on: 03/17/2013 08:31 AM

Address that to AMD, Afterburner is not controlling process of dynamic clocks/voltages switching, doesn't care how many displays outputs are connected to the card etc.

Right, so obviously that's why you include 2D/3D clock profiles in Afterburner. :rolleyes:

I can see I'm just wasting my time.

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#4555752 Posted on: 03/17/2013 08:58 AM

Right, so obviously that's why you include 2D/3D clock profiles in Afterburner. :rolleyes:

I can see I'm just wasting my time.

Right, that is why context help for that option is clearly saying the following:

- Automatic profiles management does not override own hardware downclocking technologies implemented in modern GPUs, it just loads desired profile on the first 3D application start and on the last 3D application quit events.
The primary objective of automatic profiles management is emulation of hardware downclocking technologies at software level for old graphics cards without own downclocking support (e.g. NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX series). However, automatic profiles management can be also used for different purposes, e.g. to force fixed fan speed only during 3D applications runtime.

I'm starting to afraid that I'm just wasting the time as well.

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#4555767 Posted on: 03/17/2013 10:06 AM

You may wait for the next release, but it won't change anything. B7 will become a final release in the next two weeks and there will be no changes for your issue.
Please just stay away from betas, they are intended for experienced AB users knowing how use to configure AB properly. You reported exactly the same "bugs" with BF3 crashing/freezing which previous 2.3.1 version, which were solved just by configuring the OSD properly to make it coexist with anticheat system. That's absolutely normal situation, with each and any new version we publish (both here and in EVGA) there are always "previous buld was better, new one is unstable and crashes my system" from those who cannot configure it properly. And whenever I find bugreport stupid or not, I need to verify it then to reply in the forum because other people read about "bugs" too. No need to wase both you and my work time please.

I have a similar problem. Bf3 will sometimes crash, however other times it does not. I use the overlay to monitor stuff, i also use an fps limit. Apart from Direct3D compatibility mode what else could i change within the OSD to help reduce the crashing? There are a few different options, Raster this and raster that etc but ive no real idea which one to pick. The crashing is not a huge issue, it only happens sometimes so i can live with it, but if i can change something in the rivatuner panel then i would like to try that. Thank you.

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#4555774 Posted on: 03/17/2013 10:56 AM

I have a similar problem. Bf3 will sometimes crash, however other times it does not. I use the overlay to monitor stuff, i also use an fps limit. Apart from Direct3D compatibility mode what else could i change within the OSD to help reduce the crashing? There are a few different options, Raster this and raster that etc but ive no real idea which one to pick. The crashing is not a huge issue, it only happens sometimes so i can live with it, but if i can change something in the rivatuner panel then i would like to try that. Thank you.

Search. Punkbuster. Stealth mode. Low-level hardware access mode. It is not anyway related to beta 7 or 3.0.0 version, it was so always and it will stay so.
Don't flood with it in new build thread please.

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#4555811 Posted on: 03/17/2013 12:36 PM

Right, that is why context help for that option is clearly saying the following:

- Automatic profiles management does not override own hardware downclocking technologies implemented in modern GPUs, it just loads desired profile on the first 3D application start and on the last 3D application quit events.
The primary objective of automatic profiles management is emulation of hardware downclocking technologies at software level for old graphics cards without own downclocking support (e.g. NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX series). However, automatic profiles management can be also used for different purposes, e.g. to force fixed fan speed only during 3D applications runtime.

So you're saying that even though 2D/3D profile switching worked fine for 3yrs until beta 6/7, I must be wrong because the documentation says so.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense, but why am I not surprised at your reply?

And btw it may surprise you to learn the 8800GTX CANNOT be downclocked because it doesn't have a variable vrm.

But of course you're never wrong are you?

I'm done in this thread.

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#4555829 Posted on: 03/17/2013 01:17 PM

So you're saying that even though 2D/3D profile switching worked fine for 3yrs until beta 6/7, I must be wrong because the documentation says so.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense, but why am I not surprised at your reply?

And btw it may surprise you to learn the 8800GTX CANNOT be downclocked because it doesn't have a variable vrm.

But of course you're never wrong are you?

I'm done in this thread.

Are you drunk or just trolling? Or the very first days of spring affect you that way? I tolerated your "posts" directed to rewt's attempt to help you, but you indeed don't seem to think what are you posting. The post by Plug2k, which I commented, describes pure behavior of AMD PowerPlay hardware controller, it has zero relations to software 2D/3D profiles management. And no, it didn't change and it still works as supposed.
You will learn me to 8800 internals? Probably it will be surprise for you, genius, but downclocking has no any relation to VoltageRegulationModule AT ALL.
Stop posing your nonsense in this forum section or I'll help you to do it.

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#4555837 Posted on: 03/17/2013 01:35 PM

Are you drunk or just trolling? Or the very first days of spring affect you that way? I tolerated your "posts" directed to rewt's attempt to help you, but you indeed don't seem to think what are you posting. The post by Plug2k, which I commented, describes pure behavior of AMD PowerPlay hardware controller, it has zero relations to software 2D/3D profiles management. And no, it didn't change and it still works as supposed.
You will learn me to 8800 internals? Probably it will be surprise for you, genius, but downclocking has no any relation to VoltageRegulationModule AT ALL.
Stop posing your nonsense in this forum section or I'll help you to do it.
Don't tell me how to suck eggs - I was talking about 8800GTX vgpu - NOT the clock speed.
Which is exactly the issue I now have with my 7950 ONLY after installing latest beta's.

If you bothered to look at my screenshot earlier you would have seen my 2D profile open with 2D clocks and 3D voltages. That was my whole point.

And I don't give a shlt about this MSI section, or been restricted from it.
It's completely pointless posting problems in here anyway because you deny all responsibility. It's always someone else's fault, never yours.

Hope you and your best friend Rewt have a happy life together.

Later.

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#4555841 Posted on: 03/17/2013 01:41 PM

It's always someone else's fault, never yours.

Probably that is why I say "thank you" to users who report TRUE problems. And probably that is why there are always new fixes in each new version.
And with attitude like "I'm an IT Field Engineer and while I don''t know everything, I highly doubt there is anything he could tell me. I wouldn't listen to him anyway" you are definitively not a desired guest here. You don't want to self-educate and assume that each nonsense you post here is CORRECT. So solve your PEBCAK issues in some different places. I didn't invite you here and didn't post something stupid about your work, making you to comment my nonsense. Bye.

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#4555903 Posted on: 03/17/2013 03:38 PM

Gentlemen, calm down please.

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#4555905 Posted on: 03/17/2013 03:41 PM

Yo pill we have the nicer kinder genteler unwinder...dont f it up.

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#4555934 Posted on: 03/17/2013 04:38 PM

Hi Alex,

I'm trying to get my hands around what is needed to support the new thermal limits MACM settings. I don't have access to a Titan card....and I'm unfamiliar with the new feature. Would you mind clarifying a few things for me?

I'm referencing the image on this page for the UI changes. I've also read the BUTTON_PRIORITIZE/BUTTON_LINK_THERMAL/SLIDER_THERMAL_LIMIT/TEXT_THERMAL_LIMIT help files in the %install%/Help directory.

The slider and corresponding Cur/Min/Max/Def MACM_SHARED_MEMORY_GPU_ENTRY settings are stright forward. No explanation needed there.

The 2 questions I do have are:

1 - MACM_SHARED_MEMORY_FLAG_LINK_THERMAL
What is the link relation between the power % and thermal °C? It does not appear to be a simple 1:1 or 2:1 type relationship. Also, if a user with a SLI system turns off synching with master, then how is this setting handled? The flag is in the header, not the gpu entry, so any changes to this will affect all GPUs?

2 - dwThermalPrioritizeCur/dwThermalPrioritizeDef
What exactly does the prioritize state do? The GPU will clock down in order to honor the temp/power limits that are set (or is it temp over power when enabled)? What are the possible values? Is it just an on/off toggle (0-off/1-on)?

Thanks in advance,
Nick

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#4555976 Posted on: 03/17/2013 05:47 PM

Check this video from GTX Titan Presentation. Tom Petersen from NV demonstrates those features in action using Precision X starting from 0:48:50. The same applies to MSI Afterburner. This video is strongly recommended to all Titan owners btw, it explains how GPU Boost 2.0 works in details.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsuvlg8cuWA&feature=player_embedded

1 - MACM_SHARED_MEMORY_FLAG_LINK_THERMAL
What is the link relation between the power % and thermal °C? It does not appear to be a simple 1:1 or 2:1 type relationship. Also, if a user with a SLI system turns off synching with master, then how is this setting handled? The flag is in the header, not the gpu entry, so any changes to this will affect all GPUs?

When link is enabled, AB/Precision use simple software linear interpolation of thermal limit range and recalculate it when power limit being adjusted. And yes, the changes affect all GPUs. Interpolation is suggested by NV, here is my implementation of it:

void CMSIAfterburnerWnd::LinkThermal(CMSIAfterburnerContext* pContext, BOOL bLinkByPower)

{

	if (!pContext)

		pContext = &m_context;

	if (pContext->m_bPowerLimitControl && pContext->m_bThermalLimitControl)

	{

		if (bLinkByPower)

		{

			if ((pContext->m_dwPowerLimit < pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMin) ||

				(pContext->m_dwPowerLimit > pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMax))

				return;

			if (pContext->m_dwPowerLimit > pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault)

			{

				pContext->m_dwThermalLimit = pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault +

					(LONG)(1.0f * (pContext->m_dwPowerLimit - pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault) / (pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMax - pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault) * (pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMax - pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault));

				pContext->m_dwThermalLimit = (pContext->m_dwThermalLimit > pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMax) ? pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMax : pContext->m_dwThermalLimit;

			}

			else

			{

				pContext->m_dwThermalLimit = pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault -

					(LONG)(1.0f * (pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwPowerLimit) / (pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMin) * (pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMin));

				pContext->m_dwThermalLimit = (pContext->m_dwThermalLimit < pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMin) ? pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMin : pContext->m_dwThermalLimit;

			}

		}

		else

		{

			if ((pContext->m_dwThermalLimit < pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMin) ||

				(pContext->m_dwThermalLimit > pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMax))

				return;

			if (pContext->m_dwThermalLimit > pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault)

			{

				pContext->m_dwPowerLimit = pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault +

					(LONG)(1.0f * (pContext->m_dwThermalLimit - pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault) / (pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMax - pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault) * (pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMax - pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault));

				pContext->m_dwPowerLimit = (pContext->m_dwPowerLimit > pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMax) ? pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMax : pContext->m_dwPowerLimit;

			}

			else

			{

				pContext->m_dwPowerLimit = pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault -

					(LONG)(1.0f * (pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwThermalLimit) / (pContext->m_dwThermalLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwThermalLimitMin) * (pContext->m_dwPowerLimitDefault - pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMin));

				pContext->m_dwPowerLimit = (pContext->m_dwPowerLimit < pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMin) ? pContext->m_dwPowerLimitMin : pContext->m_dwPowerLimit;

			}

		}

	}

}

2 - dwThermalPrioritizeCur/dwThermalPrioritizeDef
What exactly does the prioritize state do? The GPU will clock down in order to honor the temp/power limits that are set (or is it temp over power when enabled)? What are the possible values? Is it just an on/off toggle (0-off/1-on)?

It is on/off (1/0) toggle. The meaning is explained in video.

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#4556017 Posted on: 03/17/2013 06:50 PM

I would like to report something of a miracle. I have now been able to use a Catalyst version other than 12.8 with my HD 6950.

I spent most of yesterday trying in vain to install the new 13.3 beta 2 and then 13.1, but still got interlaced sections of the screen jumping around, just scrolling in a browser. That's best way I can describe it.

Tried and failed this way several times the past few months and always reverted to 12.8. So I did a few things different today.

Installed AB 3.0.0 Beta 7, uninstalled 12.8, installed .NET 4.0, then install Catalyst 13.1. Previously I would install .NET after any other Catalyst version, as it failed to start after reboot.

I did not think the problem was with Afterburner, as sometimes it would happen before I even started it. And others were having trouble with Trixx as well.

So don't know what to think now. Maybe just an alignment of the planets.

But anyway, thanks for the new version. Everything working fine now. I may try the Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 later, but probably shouldn't push my luck.

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#4556041 Posted on: 03/17/2013 07:06 PM

It is not a miracle, check the revision history, it is reflected there. Also, I informed users in the forum about it:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4537427&postcount=164

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#4556173 Posted on: 03/17/2013 09:46 PM

It is not a miracle, check the revision history, it is reflected there. Also, I informed users in the forum about it:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4537427&postcount=164

Thanks for clearing that up. Hadn't been keeping up on all the changes.

I must say I am very disappointed with AMD on this issue. Sent them a nasty issue report last night. Unfortunate that something they did had to be solved you guys.

Thanks again for the great tool.

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#4556305 Posted on: 03/18/2013 01:24 AM

Hi Nick,

Hehe, at last some wise posts instead of recent nonsense.

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#4557031 Posted on: 03/18/2013 10:28 PM

The first one affect the process of resuming from suspended mode, it is a workaround for bugged display drivers which may forget to restore proper clocks/voltages after resuming from suspended mode on such systems. When it is enabled Afterburner manually saves settings before suspended mode and restores them after resuming. And you could read all that in the context help for new option BTW.
The second one doesn't affect anything but running the system with driver verifier enabled.

No

Thank you.

And sorry for asking so many questions.

How do I make the icon inside the folder for translation?

:banana:

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#4557297 Posted on: 03/19/2013 06:20 AM

How do I make the icon inside the folder for translation?

Witrh any graphics editor supporting ICO format. Also, you can provide the translation without it, I can create the icon myself.

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#4557427 Posted on: 03/19/2013 12:21 PM

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#4557781 Posted on: 03/19/2013 08:44 PM

Some more news on development:

Starting from the next beta OSD server will no longer be merged with Afterburner. Now it comes as an independent and optionally installable application similar to Kombuster. The same will apply to EVGA Precision.
So those who constantly complain that "stupid OSD server breaks my games and automaticallt starts with Precision/Afterburner so I cannot even close it" can relax a bit. All functionality depending on the server (framerate monitoring, OSD display, screen and videocapture, automatic profiles management) will automatically disappear from AB/Precision GUI if you don't install the server.
It will be easier now for us to update OSD part independently of AB/Precision.

thank you into making such a flexible program, even tho now we have diferent modules to install, i find it better to the avarage ´IT Joe´ doenst come and fill up the forums with complains that, they, themselfs cant properly read and to TRY debug.

pfft these ´´guru´s´´

thank unwinder for the program, i will wait for the mentioned realise.

ps: about these such GURUS: i think the post count badge (master guru, ancient guru etc) should be changed, ppl just take it to seriously...ohh look im a master guru myself, LOL.
leave them kid badges for the kids.

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#4558512 Posted on: 03/20/2013 06:33 PM

Does this latest beta allow you to record your own voice with push to talk? A previous version introduced the ability to record your own voice in addition to game audio, but that had the microphone permanently on. A lot of users want their own voice recorded, but only when they hit a push to talk button.

Thanks

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#4558644 Posted on: 03/20/2013 09:35 PM

Hi there Unwinder. First of all thanks for making Afterburner but also thnx for Rivatuner long time ago, which could unlock my GF6800 to 16/6 :banana:

If have a special question: Will you ever include support for the ADP4100 Voltage Controller in Afterburner? Seem's like this cheap chip is an evergreen for manufacturers... as far as i can read the datasheet that chip should be programmable on the fly (i'm a noob, sorry if i should be wrong)

would appreciate a comment. Thank you!

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#4558709 Posted on: 03/20/2013 10:57 PM

If could i can remember correctly i had that ic on a few cards some you could use software on but others you could not.

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#4558771 Posted on: 03/21/2013 12:38 AM

I dont think so, because I have had issues with both beta6 and 7, i went back to 2.3.1, and all is well again. You are a great programmer unwinder, and all youre software are great, but even you are not perfect!?

IamGODobeyORdie, you were right. I've done extreme testing the past days with 2.3.1 and 3.0.0 B6 & B7.

B6 and B7 (indeed both, so B6 & B7 behave the same) are less forgiven for using high OC then 2.3.1 even with equal settings for AB and OSD.

So you can use 3.0.0 but you have to trim down your core & memory clock compared to 2.3.1. Doing so I never experienced a crash/froze again on BF3.

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#4558779 Posted on: 03/21/2013 12:47 AM

If could i can remember correctly i had that ic on a few cards some you could use software on but others you could not.

ok, so this might be an issue of the card itself, not the controller... shame on it

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