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GeForce GTX Titan review
Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/21/2013 02:54 PM [ 183 comment(s) ]
We test and review the GeForce GTX Titan. The GeForce GTX Titan is NVIDIAs fastest single GPU based graphics card they have ever built. It is based on the GK110 GPU and has an astonishing 7.1 Billion transistors and is as such is nearly as fast as one GeForce GTX 690 with two GTX 680 GPUs ! We test the product with the hottest games like Battlefield 3, Sleeping Dogs, Far Cry 3, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Hitman Absolution and many more. Next to that with the three samples we have at hand we'll be looking at SLI performance scaling in another article as well.
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Koniakki
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:04 PM
Hmm.. So... So far after days and days of waiting we have everything we wanted to know..
Expensive. Well according to price/perf that is.
Unrivaled Single GPU
Follows usually and in some games with an OC of 1150-1200 beats the 690.
MONSTEROUS compute performance. Almost if not totally, unrivaled.
Again expensive.
Again sometimes performs at SLI speeds. When of course SLI scaling is not that much I guess.
I want one.
If I don't sell my(already listed and someone offered me 2 5870's with EK blocks with a TT BigWater Bay and a TT triple radiator for it)I will hold on my Palit for another good 6-8months and maybe I will buy a Titan then or go SLI/CF.
Hmm.. So... So far after days and days of waiting we have everything we wanted to know..
Expensive. Well according to price/perf that is.
Unrivaled Single GPU
Follows usually and in some games with an OC of 1150-1200 beats the 690.
MONSTEROUS compute performance. Almost if not totally, unrivaled.
Again expensive.
Again sometimes performs at SLI speeds. When of course SLI scaling is not that much I guess.
I want one.
If I don't sell my(already listed and someone offered me 2 5870's with EK blocks with a TT BigWater Bay and a TT triple radiator for it)I will hold on my Palit for another good 6-8months and maybe I will buy a Titan then or go SLI/CF.
AvengerUK
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:04 PM
A nice card, however no reason to switch from a 680 SLi / 690 setup - especially at that price.
I mean, the pricing is ridiculous for the single card performance, but that's what happens when the competitions not around :/
A nice card, however no reason to switch from a 680 SLi / 690 setup - especially at that price.
I mean, the pricing is ridiculous for the single card performance, but that's what happens when the competitions not around :/
CPC_RedDawn
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:06 PM
I cant help but look at these results and think... is that it?
It is without a doubt the most over hyped card in history if you ask me. Yea sure its fast, but only about 20% faster than a GTX680 and about 25% fatser than a HD7970GHz. Yet its slower than a GTX690, which yes is a dual GPU card, but still it was over hyped too much.
The asking price is just insane! INCREDIBLY INSANE! It should be retailing for about £500 not £800+ you can get two HD7970's for less than one of these cards and be perfectly fine with fps sometimes lower and sometimes higher.
But I also cant help but look at the cards specs and think that maybe Nvidia are holding something back. The card in my eyes should be scoring higher than this, maybe the drivers still need some work or they are deliberately holding the card back. It has a bigger frame buffer, more vram, great overclocking ability, and has a massive shader cluster to crunch and spit the frames out. But still it seems held back.
Overall, its a very fast card even in the release state its in but the price is the deciding factor. Its absurd!!!
You still could not warrant buying this card even if your still on last generation tech (6970/GTX580) as you could get a GTX680, HD7970 for less than half the price of a single Titan and still be good to go for 1080p gaming.
I will sit back and watch for driver improvement now, or maybe sit back and see if AMD has something up their sleeve. Saying the 8000 series is delayed maybe a trick to fool Nvidia and it may be here sooner than we think. Unless the rumours are true and its just a 7000 series refresh.
I cant help but look at these results and think... is that it?
It is without a doubt the most over hyped card in history if you ask me. Yea sure its fast, but only about 20% faster than a GTX680 and about 25% fatser than a HD7970GHz. Yet its slower than a GTX690, which yes is a dual GPU card, but still it was over hyped too much.
The asking price is just insane! INCREDIBLY INSANE! It should be retailing for about £500 not £800+ you can get two HD7970's for less than one of these cards and be perfectly fine with fps sometimes lower and sometimes higher.
But I also cant help but look at the cards specs and think that maybe Nvidia are holding something back. The card in my eyes should be scoring higher than this, maybe the drivers still need some work or they are deliberately holding the card back. It has a bigger frame buffer, more vram, great overclocking ability, and has a massive shader cluster to crunch and spit the frames out. But still it seems held back.
Overall, its a very fast card even in the release state its in but the price is the deciding factor. Its absurd!!!
You still could not warrant buying this card even if your still on last generation tech (6970/GTX580) as you could get a GTX680, HD7970 for less than half the price of a single Titan and still be good to go for 1080p gaming.
I will sit back and watch for driver improvement now, or maybe sit back and see if AMD has something up their sleeve. Saying the 8000 series is delayed maybe a trick to fool Nvidia and it may be here sooner than we think. Unless the rumours are true and its just a 7000 series refresh.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:10 PM
It only starts to become really impressive at 1600P.
I don't think these cards were made with the 1080P gamer in mind tbh.
It only starts to become really impressive at 1600P.
I don't think these cards were made with the 1080P gamer in mind tbh.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:13 PM
I hope they don't actually try to sell this thing for $1000. I should be worth about the same as the 690. Maybe a little more just because it's a single GPU, but it still doesn't outperform the 690 enough to justify a huge price difference between the two. Cool card though, and thanks for the review, Hilbert.
I hope they don't actually try to sell this thing for $1000. I should be worth about the same as the 690. Maybe a little more just because it's a single GPU, but it still doesn't outperform the 690 enough to justify a huge price difference between the two. Cool card though, and thanks for the review, Hilbert.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:14 PM
It only starts to become really impressive at 1600P.
I don't think these cards were made with the 1080P gamer in mind tbh.
When I read the review I didn't even bother looking at 1080p... I only was looking at the 1600p benches.
It only starts to become really impressive at 1600P.
I don't think these cards were made with the 1080P gamer in mind tbh.
When I read the review I didn't even bother looking at 1080p... I only was looking at the 1600p benches.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:16 PM
Their answer would be a big fat yes.
£800 and no backplate, no thanks, nvidia you think we've gone stupid or something?
Their answer would be a big fat yes.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:17 PM
Exactly and the performance is extremely good at 1600P.
When I read the review I didn't even bother looking at 1080p... I only was looking at the 1600p benches.
Exactly and the performance is extremely good at 1600P.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:23 PM
1. I want it.
2. I can´t afford it.
3. I want it.
That picture with three of these running it´s like lesbian porn to me, they don´t do much stuff but sure is nice to see them in top of each other.
Imagine what we´ll have in ten years, i think zombies will actually come out of the screen and eat my brains. Exciting times.
1. I want it.
2. I can´t afford it.
3. I want it.
That picture with three of these running it´s like lesbian porn to me, they don´t do much stuff but sure is nice to see them in top of each other.
Imagine what we´ll have in ten years, i think zombies will actually come out of the screen and eat my brains. Exciting times.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:24 PM
1. I want it.
2. I can´t afford it.
3. I want it.
That picture with three of these running it´s like lesbian porn to me, they don´t do much stuff but sure is nice to see them in top of each other.
Imagine what we´ll have in ten years, i think zombies will actually come out of the screen and eat my brains. Exciting times.
Haha, I gotta remember that one ... SLI as in lesbian porn
1. I want it.
2. I can´t afford it.
3. I want it.
That picture with three of these running it´s like lesbian porn to me, they don´t do much stuff but sure is nice to see them in top of each other.
Imagine what we´ll have in ten years, i think zombies will actually come out of the screen and eat my brains. Exciting times.
Haha, I gotta remember that one ... SLI as in lesbian porn
SLI-756
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:30 PM
'Hey Pappy i wanna ditch this console and getz me one them PCs for my games.'
'well sure son how much we talking there?'
'Around, ..£2000 Pappy, ..Pappy?'
'Hey Pappy i wanna ditch this console and getz me one them PCs for my games.'
'well sure son how much we talking there?'
'Around, ..£2000 Pappy, ..Pappy?'
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:35 PM
With all the moaning about the price including myself I've just come to realise that Titan is a semi-pro GPU which is capable of some serious workloads (2,688 CUDA Cores and 4,500 Gigaflops) at a third the price of their fully blown GK110 Tesla/Quadro cards. Dream come true for 3D animators/architects and the likes.
Price is the only thing that is out of place and it's nvidia's bad or some might say clever decision making that left so many of us scratching our heads looking at the price tag.. By branding Titan as a GTX nvidia knew they would only get a massive amount of buzz from the enthusiast community spreading the word about their new product. But that's where it ends and that's all nvidia wanted IMO. In other words piggybacking..!
Nvidia shouldn't have marketed this GPU as a Flagship GTX but rather a cheaper Tesla for semi-pro professionals because that's where the card shines and with that in mind only then does the price make sense.
After all this is a perfect example of Nvidia's clever business tactics, and it's exactly what we have witnessed here today.
With all the moaning about the price including myself I've just come to realise that Titan is a semi-pro GPU which is capable of some serious workloads (2,688 CUDA Cores and 4,500 Gigaflops) at a third the price of their fully blown GK110 Tesla/Quadro cards. Dream come true for 3D animators/architects and the likes.
Price is the only thing that is out of place and it's nvidia's bad or some might say clever decision making that left so many of us scratching our heads looking at the price tag.. By branding Titan as a GTX nvidia knew they would only get a massive amount of buzz from the enthusiast community spreading the word about their new product. But that's where it ends and that's all nvidia wanted IMO. In other words piggybacking..!
Nvidia shouldn't have marketed this GPU as a Flagship GTX but rather a cheaper Tesla for semi-pro professionals because that's where the card shines and with that in mind only then does the price make sense.
After all this is a perfect example of Nvidia's clever business tactics, and it's exactly what we have witnessed here today.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:39 PM
Great card and if your planning on playing on multiple screens or have any plans with the new Metro game then it's a better gaming card than the GTX690, but for most people it will be too expensive compared to other options out there.
Reminds me of the 8800 Ultra, great card but was also around $1000.
Imo no its not, more like sweet spot at 1920x1200 with max gfx, anything higher and you drop below magic 60fps mark in recent titles really quick.. Yes even in Crysis1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/12.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6774/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-2-titans-performance-unveiled/10
Or The witcher2 maxed with uber & AlanWake, even 1080P is waay to much :S
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/887-25/benchmark-the-witcher-2-enhanced-edition.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/887-13/benchmark-alan-wake.html
Check techpowerUp multi display 5760x1080 chart, some are really disappointing and that extra vram buffer doesnt help one bit. This GPU still doesnt have enough muscle to run at such high reso.
Idk about Assassins Creed3, but just wdf at 5760 reso.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/7.html
Overall im not that impressed, I would be if it sold for ~ 600 anything more is just not worth it, 7970Ghz edition looks a lot better now.. Or yes even 2x 7950.
Great card and if your planning on playing on multiple screens or have any plans with the new Metro game then it's a better gaming card than the GTX690, but for most people it will be too expensive compared to other options out there.
Reminds me of the 8800 Ultra, great card but was also around $1000.
Imo no its not, more like sweet spot at 1920x1200 with max gfx, anything higher and you drop below magic 60fps mark in recent titles really quick.. Yes even in Crysis1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/12.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6774/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-2-titans-performance-unveiled/10
Or The witcher2 maxed with uber & AlanWake, even 1080P is waay to much :S
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/887-25/benchmark-the-witcher-2-enhanced-edition.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/887-13/benchmark-alan-wake.html
Check techpowerUp multi display 5760x1080 chart, some are really disappointing and that extra vram buffer doesnt help one bit. This GPU still doesnt have enough muscle to run at such high reso.
Idk about Assassins Creed3, but just wdf at 5760 reso.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/7.html
Overall im not that impressed, I would be if it sold for ~ 600 anything more is just not worth it, 7970Ghz edition looks a lot better now.. Or yes even 2x 7950.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 07:43 PM
Ahh, I thought it was supposed to be the compute king....
Toms did some. The 7970 hammers it in most of 'em due to OpenCL support
Ahh, I thought it was supposed to be the compute king....
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:02 PM
them yes, EVGA, no
£800 and no backplate, no thanks, nvidia you think we've gone stupid or something?
them yes, EVGA, no
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:07 PM
Yes, poor EVGA, nvidia castrated their Classified
them yes, EVGA, no
Yes, poor EVGA, nvidia castrated their Classified
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:12 PM
I cant help but look at these results and think... is that it?
It is without a doubt the most over hyped card in history if you ask me. Yea sure its fast, but only about 20% faster than a GTX680 and about 25% fatser than a HD7970GHz. Yet its slower than a GTX690, which yes is a dual GPU card, but still it was over hyped too much.
At this point i ask me if you have really watch the result.. ( maybe a little inversion ) ( even if agree some could have expect a bit more, hopefully in shine in some titles, less in some other.. ) Now the price, well....thats another question. I let anyone free to know if they want put so much money and will not say it worth or not it.
I cant help but look at these results and think... is that it?
It is without a doubt the most over hyped card in history if you ask me. Yea sure its fast, but only about 20% faster than a GTX680 and about 25% fatser than a HD7970GHz. Yet its slower than a GTX690, which yes is a dual GPU card, but still it was over hyped too much.
At this point i ask me if you have really watch the result.. ( maybe a little inversion ) ( even if agree some could have expect a bit more, hopefully in shine in some titles, less in some other.. ) Now the price, well....thats another question. I let anyone free to know if they want put so much money and will not say it worth or not it.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:18 PM
I think they need to get the price down at let's say 500 euro and then it will be a real winner.
I think they need to get the price down at let's say 500 euro and then it will be a real winner.
Lane
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:20 PM
Im sure they will sold many even at this price ( at the least the first 20K should be sold easely ), then they could still lower price, but 500 i doubt, specially if they have something like the GTX 780 who should come then. ( let say 800$, a little sister "titan" at 700$ and then 780 550-600$ ).
But still at 27-35% average over the 7970Ghz, they have not so much place to fill for the price.
I think they need to get the price down at let's say 500 euro and then it will be a real winner.
Im sure they will sold many even at this price ( at the least the first 20K should be sold easely ), then they could still lower price, but 500 i doubt, specially if they have something like the GTX 780 who should come then. ( let say 800$, a little sister "titan" at 700$ and then 780 550-600$ ).
But still at 27-35% average over the 7970Ghz, they have not so much place to fill for the price.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:26 PM
Why test at 4x AA? Why don't they use absolute maximum settings on all the titles?
Damn, Metro 2033 at 1600p is still weak.
Why test at 4x AA? Why don't they use absolute maximum settings on all the titles?
Damn, Metro 2033 at 1600p is still weak.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:28 PM
If any UK'ers want one, theres 5 at Aria, been there all day.
If any UK'ers want one, theres 5 at Aria, been there all day.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:32 PM
At this point i ask me if you have really watch the result.. ( maybe a little inversion ) ( even if agree some could have expect a bit more, hopefully in shine in some titles, less in some other.. ) Now the price, well....thats another question. I let anyone free to know if they want put so much money and will not say it worth or not it.
Yes I did, and I can see your point.
Now here my point. For the same price as ONE of these cards you could build a FULL mid-range PC and game happily with any game at medium to high settings at 720/1080p.....
Kinda puts things into perspective doesn't it...?
For the asking price of one of these it should destroy everything out there, and with 6GB of VRAM they kinda shot themselves in the foot there. This is not needed for single GPU performance, its more gained towards multi-monitor and 1440/1600p gaming and even then there are benchmarks out there that show SLI 660ti's beating one of these in 8/10 tests and two of those are half the price of this one. Also how many people actually game at this res? and how many have triple monitors?
No matter which way you look at it the card just can not be justified when there are cheaper alternatives out there.
At this point i ask me if you have really watch the result.. ( maybe a little inversion ) ( even if agree some could have expect a bit more, hopefully in shine in some titles, less in some other.. ) Now the price, well....thats another question. I let anyone free to know if they want put so much money and will not say it worth or not it.
Yes I did, and I can see your point.
Now here my point. For the same price as ONE of these cards you could build a FULL mid-range PC and game happily with any game at medium to high settings at 720/1080p.....
Kinda puts things into perspective doesn't it...?
For the asking price of one of these it should destroy everything out there, and with 6GB of VRAM they kinda shot themselves in the foot there. This is not needed for single GPU performance, its more gained towards multi-monitor and 1440/1600p gaming and even then there are benchmarks out there that show SLI 660ti's beating one of these in 8/10 tests and two of those are half the price of this one. Also how many people actually game at this res? and how many have triple monitors?
No matter which way you look at it the card just can not be justified when there are cheaper alternatives out there.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:38 PM
what we are missing is 3-way OVERCLOCKED titans on multiple-monitor setups :/
why dont we have that, i see 3-way + multi, then i see OC, but separately.
what we are missing is 3-way OVERCLOCKED titans on multiple-monitor setups :/
why dont we have that, i see 3-way + multi, then i see OC, but separately.
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I don't know why people some people are saying it's a bad card - @ 1600P it is way faster than a single 680 - In Hitman, it is actually almost 100% faster.
This is a very nice card - the price is still a little ridiculous of course but people are going to buy it anyway.
I doubt the first allocation will last more than a few days.