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GeForce GTX Titan review
Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/21/2013 02:54 PM [ 183 comment(s) ]
We test and review the GeForce GTX Titan. The GeForce GTX Titan is NVIDIAs fastest single GPU based graphics card they have ever built. It is based on the GK110 GPU and has an astonishing 7.1 Billion transistors and is as such is nearly as fast as one GeForce GTX 690 with two GTX 680 GPUs ! We test the product with the hottest games like Battlefield 3, Sleeping Dogs, Far Cry 3, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Hitman Absolution and many more. Next to that with the three samples we have at hand we'll be looking at SLI performance scaling in another article as well.
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DownHill911
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:12 PM
Great review but TITAN sucks monkeys balls due to it's price.
I will stick with GTX 690 for now.
Great review but TITAN sucks monkeys balls due to it's price.
I will stick with GTX 690 for now.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:14 PM
Darren in the meantime you could always drop in another cheap x58 chip?
You could then get those 680's to really work by downsampling on 1920*1200 monitor.
I game now at 2880*1800, makes the card really work!
I was actually wondering about getting an X58 CPU with a higher clock so I can push it to 4.0 GHz or higher but is it really worth it considering a 4.6 GHz 6-core i7-3960 hardly gives higher framerates than a 4-core i7-965 at almost 1 GHz slower?
Obviously, I would have the benefit of lower temperatures, since my i7-920 is the original C0/C1 stepping, and more stable performance but for a year I'm not really sure it is worth it as at some point I do want PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0 and SATAIII so my next upgrade would be as much for those as a more efficient CPU.
Darren in the meantime you could always drop in another cheap x58 chip?
You could then get those 680's to really work by downsampling on 1920*1200 monitor.
I game now at 2880*1800, makes the card really work!
I was actually wondering about getting an X58 CPU with a higher clock so I can push it to 4.0 GHz or higher but is it really worth it considering a 4.6 GHz 6-core i7-3960 hardly gives higher framerates than a 4-core i7-965 at almost 1 GHz slower?
Obviously, I would have the benefit of lower temperatures, since my i7-920 is the original C0/C1 stepping, and more stable performance but for a year I'm not really sure it is worth it as at some point I do want PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0 and SATAIII so my next upgrade would be as much for those as a more efficient CPU.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:15 PM
Thanks,wawawaw great review,it's a spécial time for the people who plan to buy a new high end card.I don't remember wich card made people so excited.Ok, now let me read the second review(SLI).
Thanks,wawawaw great review,it's a spécial time for the people who plan to buy a new high end card.I don't remember wich card made people so excited.Ok, now let me read the second review(SLI).
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:18 PM
Great card but the price is wrong. Should be the same as 690 or touch cheaper. Then I would get one.
As for all the other features, IDGAS. I'm a gamer.
Great card but the price is wrong. Should be the same as 690 or touch cheaper. Then I would get one.
As for all the other features, IDGAS. I'm a gamer.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:21 PM
If anything I'd get a 690 or 7950's xfire atm...perhaps if it were cheaper by a good £100...
Still great review Hilbert!
@darren i'd wait for next cpu's..
If anything I'd get a 690 or 7950's xfire atm...perhaps if it were cheaper by a good £100...
Still great review Hilbert!
@darren i'd wait for next cpu's..
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:22 PM
Want.
My system is long over due an upgrade, but certainly not for that price...
There's a real danger here IMO is that NVIDIA will set the price for what they think single GPU cards should cost so it will be interesting to see what AMD's next high end card sells for.
It might match the performance of a GTX 690 but that card is almost a year old now and dated tech so it is expected that the Titan would be faster than a GTX 680 anyway (although one review claims it is only 23% on average as increased performance isn't guaranteed to be the same for all games). That extra 4 GB of VRAM shouldn't double the price of the card.
If every new high-end single GPU card is going to be double the cost of the previous one then I will be sticking with mid-range cards in future, which at the Titan's pricing would cost as much as the current high end anyway. I pray that AMD release their next high end single GPU card with similar performance to the Titan but at a much lower cost. IMO, AMD cards have always been better value anyway but only suffer from, in my experience, weaker, less feature packed drivers (no PhysX, no custom AA/SLI flags for easy editing of profiles, no custom ambient occlusion, etc., etc.).
Want.
My system is long over due an upgrade, but certainly not for that price...
There's a real danger here IMO is that NVIDIA will set the price for what they think single GPU cards should cost so it will be interesting to see what AMD's next high end card sells for.
It might match the performance of a GTX 690 but that card is almost a year old now and dated tech so it is expected that the Titan would be faster than a GTX 680 anyway (although one review claims it is only 23% on average as increased performance isn't guaranteed to be the same for all games). That extra 4 GB of VRAM shouldn't double the price of the card.
If every new high-end single GPU card is going to be double the cost of the previous one then I will be sticking with mid-range cards in future, which at the Titan's pricing would cost as much as the current high end anyway. I pray that AMD release their next high end single GPU card with similar performance to the Titan but at a much lower cost. IMO, AMD cards have always been better value anyway but only suffer from, in my experience, weaker, less feature packed drivers (no PhysX, no custom AA/SLI flags for easy editing of profiles, no custom ambient occlusion, etc., etc.).
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:31 PM
I don't quite understand that logic.
Bearing in mind that on average the Titan is roughly 25-40% faster than the GTX 680 across a range of games, is it really acceptable to charge more than double the price? Other new graphics cards typically show a 25-40% improvement in framerates over their predecessors but AMD and NVIDIA have never asked us to pay twice the price for the privilege of it. I really don't see the logic in their pricing for the Titan at all. Is it only aimed at the stinking rich and people with money to burn?
And, yeah, it has 6 GB of VRAM, which is an excessive amount that few would ever have need of anyway outside of professional use, but I'm sure that doesn't hike the price up THAT much. In a year's time, perhaps less, that £825 card is going to be replaced by something faster and, likely, cheaper so I just couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a single GPU card. Two for SLI, maybe, but not one.
Great card but the price is wrong. Should be the same as 690 or touch cheaper.
I don't quite understand that logic.
Bearing in mind that on average the Titan is roughly 25-40% faster than the GTX 680 across a range of games, is it really acceptable to charge more than double the price? Other new graphics cards typically show a 25-40% improvement in framerates over their predecessors but AMD and NVIDIA have never asked us to pay twice the price for the privilege of it. I really don't see the logic in their pricing for the Titan at all. Is it only aimed at the stinking rich and people with money to burn?
And, yeah, it has 6 GB of VRAM, which is an excessive amount that few would ever have need of anyway outside of professional use, but I'm sure that doesn't hike the price up THAT much. In a year's time, perhaps less, that £825 card is going to be replaced by something faster and, likely, cheaper so I just couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a single GPU card. Two for SLI, maybe, but not one.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:33 PM
Did you read 690 as 680?
It is about the same or slower than a 690. As for it's extra memory, I will pay a small premium for that.
Ideal price would be no more than £800 imo.
I do admit the prices thus far are not as bad as the preview had us believe and If I didn't blow my cash last few weeks I would have been mighty tempted.
Did you read 690 as 680?
It is about the same or slower than a 690. As for it's extra memory, I will pay a small premium for that.
Ideal price would be no more than £800 imo.
I do admit the prices thus far are not as bad as the preview had us believe and If I didn't blow my cash last few weeks I would have been mighty tempted.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:36 PM
This card is incredibly good 0_0. Two of them and you are set for ever lol.
This card is incredibly good 0_0. Two of them and you are set for ever lol.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:43 PM
@ Hilbert,
Do you also have the results measuring minimum FPS with the Titan?
Thats what im interested in !
Other then that an impressive review!
@ Hilbert,
Do you also have the results measuring minimum FPS with the Titan?
Thats what im interested in !
Other then that an impressive review!
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:44 PM
Great card and if your planning on playing on multiple screens or have any plans with the new Metro game then it's a better gaming card than the GTX690, but for most people it will be too expensive compared to other options out there.
Reminds me of the 8800 Ultra, great card but was also around $1000.
Great card and if your planning on playing on multiple screens or have any plans with the new Metro game then it's a better gaming card than the GTX690, but for most people it will be too expensive compared to other options out there.
Reminds me of the 8800 Ultra, great card but was also around $1000.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:45 PM
No, I didn't. The GTX 690 is a year old now and in PC tech terms it is no longer cutting edge. We also see newer single GPU cards edging closer to matching the performance of the previous dual GPU cards, that is expected, but until now we haven't seen this massive price hike for a single GPU card.
As for the 6 GB of VRAM, it is a shame that reviews do not cover total VRAM usage because I'd be interested to see just how much of that 6 GB is used even for multi-display 5760x1080 resolutions with lots of AA. I bet very few games even top 3 GB and by the time they need 6 GB then the Titan will be too slow to run those games anyway and faster cards will be available.
Did you read 690 as 680?
No, I didn't. The GTX 690 is a year old now and in PC tech terms it is no longer cutting edge. We also see newer single GPU cards edging closer to matching the performance of the previous dual GPU cards, that is expected, but until now we haven't seen this massive price hike for a single GPU card.
As for the 6 GB of VRAM, it is a shame that reviews do not cover total VRAM usage because I'd be interested to see just how much of that 6 GB is used even for multi-display 5760x1080 resolutions with lots of AA. I bet very few games even top 3 GB and by the time they need 6 GB then the Titan will be too slow to run those games anyway and faster cards will be available.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:45 PM
Re pricing, not Nvidias first time they come up with a high priced monster single GPU. Recall the 8800 ultra which I believe was announced at $999 but quickly came down to around $800 then $650. If NV intends to make a lot of Titans, pricing will have to come down similarly. I just cant see them selling too many at this price.
Re pricing, not Nvidias first time they come up with a high priced monster single GPU. Recall the 8800 ultra which I believe was announced at $999 but quickly came down to around $800 then $650. If NV intends to make a lot of Titans, pricing will have to come down similarly. I just cant see them selling too many at this price.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:48 PM
I said earlier on this week before the Titan pricing was released that I suspected that the rumoured limited run of 10,000 cards would result in a high price and it seems I was right. Anyway, I've said enough about the cost so I'll just finish by saying that it is an amazing card apart from that.
So who is buying one then? And who is buying two for SLI?
I said earlier on this week before the Titan pricing was released that I suspected that the rumoured limited run of 10,000 cards would result in a high price and it seems I was right. Anyway, I've said enough about the cost so I'll just finish by saying that it is an amazing card apart from that.
So who is buying one then? And who is buying two for SLI?
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:50 PM
We test and review the GeForce GTX Titan. The GeForce GTX Titan is NVIDIAs fastest single GPU based graphics card they have ever built. It is based on the GK110 GPU and has an astonishing 7.1 Billion ...
GeForce GTX Titan review
Any chance you could test The Witcher 2 with the Uber filter enabled, as this is currently one of the most power hungry games ?
We test and review the GeForce GTX Titan. The GeForce GTX Titan is NVIDIAs fastest single GPU based graphics card they have ever built. It is based on the GK110 GPU and has an astonishing 7.1 Billion ...
GeForce GTX Titan review
Any chance you could test The Witcher 2 with the Uber filter enabled, as this is currently one of the most power hungry games ?
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:51 PM
nice card but damn screw that price. 660gtx will serve me well for 3 years before it both, Unless a game comes out I really need new card for.
nice card but damn screw that price. 660gtx will serve me well for 3 years before it both, Unless a game comes out I really need new card for.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 04:53 PM
Anyone find any in stock? In uk?
Glad I cant find any or would have been a touch tempting
Anyone find any in stock? In uk?
Glad I cant find any or would have been a touch tempting
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:00 PM
Anyone find any in stock? In uk?
Glad I cant find any or would have been a touch tempting
Here you go and sorry
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/NVIDIA+GeForce/GeForce+Titan
Also just noticed that EVGA have overclocked versions on their website so don't buy an EVGA reference Titan, apart from being more expensive, chances are its already been binned!
http://www.evga.com/articles/00729/
Anyone find any in stock? In uk?
Glad I cant find any or would have been a touch tempting
Here you go and sorry
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/NVIDIA+GeForce/GeForce+Titan
Also just noticed that EVGA have overclocked versions on their website so don't buy an EVGA reference Titan, apart from being more expensive, chances are its already been binned!
http://www.evga.com/articles/00729/
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:03 PM
And Max Payne 3 and Hitman Absolution with 8xMSAA as well on single and multiple displays? In fact, I would love to see a feature on VRAM usage. Is that 6 GB of VRAM really worth having at this point?
Any chance you could test The Witcher 2 with the Uber filter enabled, as this is currently one of the most power hungry games ?
And Max Payne 3 and Hitman Absolution with 8xMSAA as well on single and multiple displays? In fact, I would love to see a feature on VRAM usage. Is that 6 GB of VRAM really worth having at this point?
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:04 PM
Thanks for the thorough review.
Please double check the article for typos.
Thanks for the thorough review.
Please double check the article for typos.
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:05 PM
Nice review. disappointed about the card. hoped it would beat the 690 when oc'd.
Good point, its exactly what ive been thinking.
there seems no bottleneck when it comes to that ? (680's and 690's when reaching 2gb)
Nice review. disappointed about the card. hoped it would beat the 690 when oc'd.
And Max Payne 3 and Hitman Absolution with 8xMSAA as well on single and multiple displays? In fact, I would love to see a feature on VRAM usage. Is that 6 GB of VRAM really worth having at this point?
Good point, its exactly what ive been thinking.
there seems no bottleneck when it comes to that ? (680's and 690's when reaching 2gb)
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:08 PM
Yea.... edit: I confused by the Crysis 2 performance table. (the order the cards are listed in that table is different to others). No typo!
Nice review overall!
Yea.... edit: I confused by the Crysis 2 performance table. (the order the cards are listed in that table is different to others). No typo!
Nice review overall!
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:15 PM
Nice card thanks for the review Hilbert.
Not as powerful as 690 on air even Hilbert couldnt get his one to go up to 1200mhz on the core.
My 690 does 1215mhz on the cores fully stable and it isnt the best tbh its above average.
Remember not everyone will be able to achieve 1176mhz with there Titan card.
Like i said the other day in another thread once you put a custom block on the Titan it will surpass the 690 even of the 690 is watercooled because of the unlocked voltage.
It just shows how much Nvidia have progressed in the last 12 months since the 690 was released.
Imagine how powerful Maxwell is going to be!
They didn't actually progress, since the GK110 core has been out for more than 1 year already (although, only for Tesla cars).
Nice card thanks for the review Hilbert.
Not as powerful as 690 on air even Hilbert couldnt get his one to go up to 1200mhz on the core.
My 690 does 1215mhz on the cores fully stable and it isnt the best tbh its above average.
Remember not everyone will be able to achieve 1176mhz with there Titan card.
Like i said the other day in another thread once you put a custom block on the Titan it will surpass the 690 even of the 690 is watercooled because of the unlocked voltage.
It just shows how much Nvidia have progressed in the last 12 months since the 690 was released.
Imagine how powerful Maxwell is going to be!
They didn't actually progress, since the GK110 core has been out for more than 1 year already (although, only for Tesla cars).
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Posted on: 02/21/2013 05:16 PM
Would have liked to see some compute performance benchmarks , just out of interest. Good review none the less.
Dont think ill get one to be honest, will just wait till the next series comes out.
Would have liked to see some compute performance benchmarks , just out of interest. Good review none the less.
Dont think ill get one to be honest, will just wait till the next series comes out.
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Want.
My system is long over due an upgrade, but certainly not for that price...