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GeForce 9800 GT vs GeForce 660 GTX review
Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/19/2012 06:58 AM [ 46 comment(s) ]
We place the GeForce 9800 GT vs GeForce 660 GTX in a quick four page article slash review. Demographics show that a lot of end-users who purchased their PC a couple of years ago very likely still have that GeForce 9800 GT. NVIDIA's demographics show that the people that are still using that card (and apparently it is a lot of them) are bound to upgrade, and the most logical step is the GeForce TX 660. So why not have a quick peek at how these two cards performs -- the old versus the new.
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AndreasGuido
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 09:43 AM
Its defo time for upgrade for me
but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :S
Its defo time for upgrade for me
but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :S
Vtech
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 09:57 AM
I think it was important to compare the performance of both with a CPU from the 9800GT era, you know for the people that goes to upgrade only the card, or to see what they gonna loose in the new card if they don't upgrade the hole system.
I think it was important to compare the performance of both with a CPU from the 9800GT era, you know for the people that goes to upgrade only the card, or to see what they gonna loose in the new card if they don't upgrade the hole system.
StewieTech
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 10:36 AM
Yes, ti is better.
Its defo time for upgrade for me but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :S
but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :SYes, ti is better.
PNeV
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 11:40 AM
If your in the UK, the 670 is a better price than the 660 Ti. Its too expensive for what it is, if you want to spend around £200 then get the regular GTX 660
Its defo time for upgrade for me but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :S
but i cant decide! Also is 660ti better than 660? im so confused :SIf your in the UK, the 670 is a better price than the 660 Ti. Its too expensive for what it is, if you want to spend around £200 then get the regular GTX 660
dcx_badass
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 12:28 PM
Nice article, I'm thinking about moving on from my 8800GT to a 660. Would have liked to see BF3 compared.
Also as mentioned above, seeing both using an old C2D CPU would be interesting as I'll porbably ugrade the GPU first but not sure how much I'd be throttled.
Nice article, I'm thinking about moving on from my 8800GT to a 660. Would have liked to see BF3 compared.
Also as mentioned above, seeing both using an old C2D CPU would be interesting as I'll porbably ugrade the GPU first but not sure how much I'd be throttled.
AndreasGuido
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 12:50 PM
I see..Isn't 670 a bit of a waste if i only have 1680x1080 screen at the moment? i was thinking about getting 7950.
If your in the UK, the 670 is a better price than the 660 Ti. Its too expensive for what it is, if you want to spend around £200 then get the regular GTX 660
I see..Isn't 670 a bit of a waste if i only have 1680x1080 screen at the moment? i was thinking about getting 7950.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 12:52 PM
Ah well in that case a regular 660 will do nicely ha
I see..Isn't 670 a bit of a waste if i only have 1680x1080 screen at the moment? i was thinking about getting 7950.
Ah well in that case a regular 660 will do nicely ha
AndreasGuido
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 12:58 PM
ha im liking the price of normal 660
ha im liking the price of normal 660
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 01:01 PM
Buy 2nd hand, I got my 460s second hand and they have been going strong ever since.
I see..Isn't 670 a bit of a waste if i only have 1680x1080 screen at the moment? i was thinking about getting 7950.
Buy 2nd hand, I got my 460s second hand and they have been going strong ever since.
StewieTech
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 01:29 PM
Nice article, I'm thinking about moving on from my 8800GT to a 660. Would have liked to see BF3 compared.
Also as mentioned above, seeing both using an old C2D CPU would be interesting as I'll porbably ugrade the GPU first but not sure how much I'd be throttled.
In your case there will be both a bottleneck and a major increase in your fps. I would go for it and later a new cpu with all the other goodies.
Nice article, I'm thinking about moving on from my 8800GT to a 660. Would have liked to see BF3 compared.
Also as mentioned above, seeing both using an old C2D CPU would be interesting as I'll porbably ugrade the GPU first but not sure how much I'd be throttled.
In your case there will be both a bottleneck and a major increase in your fps. I would go for it and later a new cpu with all the other goodies.
AndreasGuido
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 01:39 PM
Which one? 670 or 7950? or 660ti
Buy 2nd hand, I got my 460s second hand and they have been going strong ever since.
Which one? 670 or 7950? or 660ti
sapo_joe
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 01:41 PM
I used a 9800gt but it died just after warranty ended. That kind of cooler that looks like a turbine is piece of crap. So I switched to a Radeon 5670 (great card from MSI, but AMD drivers are crap), and then to a Geforce 560Ti. The processor has changed as well, from a Athlon x2 6000+ (2.8Ghz) to a Phenom II X4 955 BE. That's what I love from AMD, the motherboard is the SAME! I started with 2GB of RAM and now I've installed 8gb on it, and I can kick any game fully MAXED on it, and it runs butter smooth!
The performance difference is amazing, but still, that was a very good and capable machine, could be running the latest games at medium levels.
I used a 9800gt but it died just after warranty ended. That kind of cooler that looks like a turbine is piece of crap. So I switched to a Radeon 5670 (great card from MSI, but AMD drivers are crap), and then to a Geforce 560Ti. The processor has changed as well, from a Athlon x2 6000+ (2.8Ghz) to a Phenom II X4 955 BE. That's what I love from AMD, the motherboard is the SAME! I started with 2GB of RAM and now I've installed 8gb on it, and I can kick any game fully MAXED on it, and it runs butter smooth!
The performance difference is amazing, but still, that was a very good and capable machine, could be running the latest games at medium levels.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 02:23 PM
hey H have you got the gpu score for vantage it would also be cool to see the score against all the other cards as the system and the bench make setting are the same. good review though very interesting
hey H have you got the gpu score for vantage it would also be cool to see the score against all the other cards as the system and the bench make setting are the same. good review though very interesting
Ven0m
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 02:49 PM
Thank you for this review.
It's really refreshing and shows how the products change over time.
Thank you for this review.
It's really refreshing and shows how the products change over time.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 03:12 PM
my 460 SE is dying, using my ol 9600GT now and planning to get a 660 as well, so i would expect similar improvement
my 460 SE is dying, using my ol 9600GT now and planning to get a 660 as well, so i would expect similar improvement
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 03:42 PM
Great comparison there aren't enough reviews like this out there. I would love to know how my 5850 would do against a 7950/660Ti.
Great comparison there aren't enough reviews like this out there. I would love to know how my 5850 would do against a 7950/660Ti.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 03:50 PM
Interesting, though I had wanted to see some more, modern DX11 games.
Benchmarks for modern DX11 games very rarely feature DX10/10.1 cards(which is a damn shame), and the modern games are afterall what we upgrade for
Interesting, though I had wanted to see some more, modern DX11 games.
Benchmarks for modern DX11 games very rarely feature DX10/10.1 cards(which is a damn shame), and the modern games are afterall what we upgrade for
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 04:17 PM
That's why i like CoD engine, it runs good on old hardware.
That's why i like CoD engine, it runs good on old hardware.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 04:20 PM
Very interesting article Hilbert , good to see something differnt done. The jump in performance from that old architecture compared with the latest says it all. Great review.
Very interesting article Hilbert , good to see something differnt done. The jump in performance from that old architecture compared with the latest says it all. Great review.
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 05:39 PM
Interesting article/review ruined by this : Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3750 MHz
You should have used a Core2(or 2008 spec CPU).
There is no one with a core i7 extreme and a 9800gt....it is much more likely they have a Q6600 or E8500. Now that would have been interesting to see how much of a boost they get and how much the Old CPU bottle necks the modern GPU.
I say do the review again...properly
Edit
Thinking about it, this is actually really bad false advertising for nvidia that could fool many people who aren't savvy enough to realise they wont get near that boost with the old CPU they actually have. To me, it's as bad as re-branding old generation GPUs to fool customers not "in the know".
Interesting article/review ruined by this : Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3750 MHz
You should have used a Core2(or 2008 spec CPU).
There is no one with a core i7 extreme and a 9800gt....it is much more likely they have a Q6600 or E8500. Now that would have been interesting to see how much of a boost they get and how much the Old CPU bottle necks the modern GPU.
I say do the review again...properly
Edit
Thinking about it, this is actually really bad false advertising for nvidia that could fool many people who aren't savvy enough to realise they wont get near that boost with the old CPU they actually have. To me, it's as bad as re-branding old generation GPUs to fool customers not "in the know".
SashiX
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 05:47 PM
lol, that's exactly my case Plan to upgrade my old 8800 GT to 660 GTX 
Can't believe that I still play almost all games @ MAX (and @16x10) Watta card!
lol, that's exactly my case
Plan to upgrade my old 8800 GT to 660 GTX Can't believe that I still play almost all games @ MAX (and @16x10) Watta card!
signex
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 06:11 PM
I still remember buying the 8800GTX first day it came out.
Jesus what a price tag it had, sold my crappy scooter to buy best videocard
I still remember buying the 8800GTX first day it came out.
Jesus what a price tag it had, sold my crappy scooter to buy best videocard
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 06:19 PM
Interesting, though I had wanted to see some more, modern DX11 games.
Benchmarks for modern DX11 games very rarely feature DX10/10.1 cards(which is a damn shame), and the modern games are afterall what we upgrade for
Why would you benchmark a card that doesn't support DX11 on a DX11 game?
Granted you could run most in DX9 mode (or sometimes DX10) but wouldn't that defeat the purpose? Why would you want to know how your shiny new DX11 card ran a game in DX9?
Interesting, though I had wanted to see some more, modern DX11 games.
Benchmarks for modern DX11 games very rarely feature DX10/10.1 cards(which is a damn shame), and the modern games are afterall what we upgrade for
Why would you benchmark a card that doesn't support DX11 on a DX11 game?
Granted you could run most in DX9 mode (or sometimes DX10) but wouldn't that defeat the purpose? Why would you want to know how your shiny new DX11 card ran a game in DX9?
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Posted on: 09/19/2012 06:46 PM
Thank you Hilbert for doing this apples to apples comparison. It's nigh impossible to find a review from a leading source that compares the older GPUs with current ones. As a system builder, it's very useful for me, since otherwise I have to scour the internet for multiple reviews, generally using different games, to be able to tell a prospective client - this would be XX% better than what you have right now.
Thank you Hilbert for doing this apples to apples comparison. It's nigh impossible to find a review from a leading source that compares the older GPUs with current ones. As a system builder, it's very useful for me, since otherwise I have to scour the internet for multiple reviews, generally using different games, to be able to tell a prospective client - this would be XX% better than what you have right now.
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Love that bit lol.
Although, in my case, my laptop is far more high-end than my desktop (backwards I know) with it having a "Athlon 6000+ and a Geforce 8600 GT".
Maybe instead of my next trip too Aussie, I might invest in a better desktop lol.