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Core i5 3570K processor review
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We review the Core i5 3570K processor. Will the Ivy Bridge be the processor series everything you expected? Go find out in this extensive review here at Guru3D.
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Taint3dBulge
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:02 AM
Great review..
Interesting to see that this processor even overclocked is slower in alot of tests then the 8350 (same price point).. Id love to see another review on that with a overclock of 5ghz if the boss has time, since there is threads blowing up as of late with people buying them. Maybe test it with higher clocked ram and the windows patch..
not saying one is better then the other but it would be cool to revisit it like ya did with this review.
Great review..
Interesting to see that this processor even overclocked is slower in alot of tests then the 8350 (same price point).. Id love to see another review on that with a overclock of 5ghz if the boss has time, since there is threads blowing up as of late with people buying them. Maybe test it with higher clocked ram and the windows patch..
not saying one is better then the other but it would be cool to revisit it like ya did with this review.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:21 AM
Great review..
Interesting to see that this processor even overclocked is slower in alot of tests then the 8350 (same price point).
Don't get your hopes up, most of the tests are multi-threaded hence AMDs 8-core processors can keep up as they can accumulate the results. Overall per core performance will dominate that 8350.
Great review..
Interesting to see that this processor even overclocked is slower in alot of tests then the 8350 (same price point).
Don't get your hopes up, most of the tests are multi-threaded hence AMDs 8-core processors can keep up as they can accumulate the results. Overall per core performance will dominate that 8350.
wenimin
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:30 AM
to Hilbert,Hi ,i know you already made a review on how to overclock the 3770k,but me i can do mine at 4.6 Ghz,but games crash after 4.5 Ghz,(BF3),crisis 3 open beta crash after 4.4 GHz,thats why i ask myself if there is something special to do,for the games be accepted around 4.5 Ghz,i bought a Noctua Nh-D14,to replace the Nh-U12P SE2(since you made the review on :"CPU cooler group test review with 3770K".
to Hilbert,Hi ,i know you already made a review on how to overclock the 3770k,but me i can do mine at 4.6 Ghz,but games crash after 4.5 Ghz,(BF3),crisis 3 open beta crash after 4.4 GHz,thats why i ask myself if there is something special to do,for the games be accepted around 4.5 Ghz,i bought a Noctua Nh-D14,to replace the Nh-U12P SE2(since you made the review on :"CPU cooler group test review with 3770K".
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:35 AM
Not really, what you see in the review is what you get in terms of the BIOS settings. Sometimes it's just having that little extra luck processor and setup wise.
How much volts do you apply ?
to Hilbert,Hi ,i know you already made a review on how to overclock the 3770k,but me i can do mine at 4.6 Ghz,but games crash after 4.5 Ghz,(BF3),crisis 3 open beta crash after 4.4 GHz,thats why i ask myself if there is something special to do,for the games be accepted around 4.5 Ghz,i bought a Noctua Nh-D14,to replace the Nh-U12P SE2(since you made the review on :"CPU cooler group test review with 3770K".
Not really, what you see in the review is what you get in terms of the BIOS settings. Sometimes it's just having that little extra luck processor and setup wise.
How much volts do you apply ?
wenimin
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:45 AM
Acually 4.4 GHz:1.250 v (Right now 1.255 v because in the DIGI+(i set many thing at Extrem,because up tu 4.4GHz no stability).
before 4.6 GHz :1.305 v
i tried 4.7GHz :1.355v but nothing are stable.
Acually 4.4 GHz:1.250 v (Right now 1.255 v because in the DIGI+(i set many thing at Extrem,because up tu 4.4GHz no stability).
before 4.6 GHz :1.305 v
i tried 4.7GHz :1.355v but nothing are stable.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:47 AM
Actually 4.4 GHz:1.250 v (Right now 1.255 v because in the DIGI+(i set many thing at Extrem,because up tu 4.4GHz no stability).
before 4.6 GHz :1.305 v
i tried 4.7GHz :1.355v but nothing are stable.
You are going to need to try 1.4 Volts then ... but that is more of a bitch temp control wise.
Realistically 4.4 GHz versus ~1.250V remains a nice sweet-spot for your temps and power consumption. And the extra 200~300 MHz really isn't going to make that much of a difference in real-world usage experiences let alone GPU bound gaming.
Actually 4.4 GHz:1.250 v (Right now 1.255 v because in the DIGI+(i set many thing at Extrem,because up tu 4.4GHz no stability).
before 4.6 GHz :1.305 v
i tried 4.7GHz :1.355v but nothing are stable.
You are going to need to try 1.4 Volts then ... but that is more of a bitch temp control wise.
Realistically 4.4 GHz versus ~1.250V remains a nice sweet-spot for your temps and power consumption. And the extra 200~300 MHz really isn't going to make that much of a difference in real-world usage experiences let alone GPU bound gaming.
wenimin
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:51 AM
thank you,i will try that in less than 1 hour,i was a little bit scared,because i read on many place ,that it's not good to go up to 1.380 v(but you are right i think the Maximus Formula V can handle that.
i forgot,yes it's good 1.250v at 4.4 GHz,but in your review you can do 4.6 at 1.200 v,(for me it's impossible,on mine) but i also read all 3770 k are differents.
thank you,i will try that in less than 1 hour,i was a little bit scared,because i read on many place ,that it's not good to go up to 1.380 v(but you are right i think the Maximus Formula V can handle that.
i forgot,yes it's good 1.250v at 4.4 GHz,but in your review you can do 4.6 at 1.200 v,(for me it's impossible,on mine) but i also read all 3770 k are differents.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:55 AM
thank you,i will try that in less than 1 hour,i was a little bit scared,because i read on many place ,that it's not good to go up to 1.380 v(but you are right i think the Maximus Formula V can handle that.
i forgot,yes it's good 1.250v at 4.4 GHz,but in your review you can do 4.6 at 1.200 v,(for me it's impossible,on mine) but i also read all 3770 k are differents.
Well that and I'm very sure that Intel sends out the best binned low-leakage samples to us as well. So yeah, it remains a bit of a gamble.
Just make sure your temps remain up-to snuff. 1.4V is really pushing it with a D14.
thank you,i will try that in less than 1 hour,i was a little bit scared,because i read on many place ,that it's not good to go up to 1.380 v(but you are right i think the Maximus Formula V can handle that.
i forgot,yes it's good 1.250v at 4.4 GHz,but in your review you can do 4.6 at 1.200 v,(for me it's impossible,on mine) but i also read all 3770 k are differents.
Well that and I'm very sure that Intel sends out the best binned low-leakage samples to us as well. So yeah, it remains a bit of a gamble.
Just make sure your temps remain up-to snuff. 1.4V is really pushing it with a D14.
wenimin
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 10:58 AM
Thank you
Thank you
Pill Monster
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 11:00 AM
AIDA64 showing some crazy bandwidth/latency numbers.....impressive. I guess 2133 @CL9 helps a lot.
AIDA64 showing some crazy bandwidth/latency numbers.....impressive. I guess 2133 @CL9 helps a lot.
Stukov
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 11:30 AM
I was able to sit at 4.4Ghz at stock volts. However, I sit at 4.2Ghz just for power consumption and less stress (don't really need that extra 200Mhz).
I was able to sit at 4.4Ghz at stock volts. However, I sit at 4.2Ghz just for power consumption and less stress (don't really need that extra 200Mhz).
StewieTech
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 12:01 PM
I love mine.
Great article don.
I love mine.
Great article don.
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 01:10 PM
Outstanding article!
Mine does 4.8ghz without too much hastle, and at this speed scores over 8 points in CineBench, imo to get the best outta them yoiu need a nice mobo, like Asus ROG, Gigabyte ultra durable 5 etc.
Outstanding article!
Mine does 4.8ghz without too much hastle, and at this speed scores over 8 points in CineBench, imo to get the best outta them yoiu need a nice mobo, like Asus ROG, Gigabyte ultra durable 5 etc.
BLEH!
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 03:03 PM
Good review. Nice to see the 980X holding on
. FX-8350 is pretty quick when you look at it.
Good review. Nice to see the 980X holding on
. FX-8350 is pretty quick when you look at it.
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 03:16 PM
Careful now - Xbeast will be here preaching to you about how the i5 rapes the Vishera "in games".
Good review. Nice to see the 980X holding on . FX-8350 is pretty quick when you look at it.
. FX-8350 is pretty quick when you look at it.Careful now - Xbeast will be here preaching to you about how the i5 rapes the Vishera "in games".
MerolaC
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 03:26 PM
I love mine too.
I'm doing 4.6GHz@1.328 V with a really low temps (Cores at mid 60)
LOVE IT.
I love mine too.
I'm doing 4.6GHz@1.328 V with a really low temps (Cores at mid 60)
LOVE IT.
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 04:32 PM
Problem is said games are not threaded properly to leverage the power of the AMD with the new consoles coming out bases on this arctecture it will be interesting to see if the game gap shrinks.
Careful now - Xbeast will be here preaching to you about how the i5 rapes the Vishera "in games".
Problem is said games are not threaded properly to leverage the power of the AMD with the new consoles coming out bases on this arctecture it will be interesting to see if the game gap shrinks.
BLEH!
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 04:33 PM
And I could go on about how my i7 rapes his i5 at everything else
Careful now - Xbeast will be here preaching to you about how the i5 rapes the Vishera "in games".
And I could go on about how my i7 rapes his i5 at everything else
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 05:06 PM
1230v2 Xeon (no igpu at all) is almost identical with i7-3770 , with i5 3570k price. Some mobos allow "overclocking" by changing the multiplier to 37 and no need for 140 euro mobo + 60 euro OC cooler. B75 mobo and some cheap aftermarket cooler for less noise will do just fine!
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/413/Intel_Core_i7_i7-3770_vs_Intel_Xeon_E3-1230_v2.html
1230v2 Xeon (no igpu at all) is almost identical with i7-3770 , with i5 3570k price. Some mobos allow "overclocking" by changing the multiplier to 37 and no need for 140 euro mobo + 60 euro OC cooler. B75 mobo and some cheap aftermarket cooler for less noise will do just fine!
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/413/Intel_Core_i7_i7-3770_vs_Intel_Xeon_E3-1230_v2.html
makaveli316
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 07:59 PM
I need help, cause i'm starting to freak out.
It seems like i can't set the turbo multiplier more than 42. I mean, i can in the bios, but
when i go to the desktop and check cpu-z, it always says 4200.00 Mhz, even if i set it to 44 or 45.
What the hell is happening? I tried everything, am i missing something?
I need help, cause i'm starting to freak out.
It seems like i can't set the turbo multiplier more than 42. I mean, i can in the bios, but
when i go to the desktop and check cpu-z, it always says 4200.00 Mhz, even if i set it to 44 or 45.
What the hell is happening? I tried everything, am i missing something?
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 08:02 PM
Problem is said games are not threaded properly to leverage the power of the AMD with the new consoles coming out bases on this arctecture it will be interesting to see if the game gap shrinks.Yes hopefully we'll see more games like BF3 that use all cores...
And I could go on about how my i7 rapes his i5 at everything else
Haha well said....
I need help, cause i'm starting to freak out.
It seems like i can't set the turbo multiplier more than 42. I mean, i can in the bios, but
when i go to the desktop and check cpu-z, it always says 4200.00 Mhz, even if i set it to 44 or 45.
What the hell is happening? I tried everything, am i missing something?
If it's anything like AMD CPU's Turbo it doesn't work once you start overclocking.
Problem is said games are not threaded properly to leverage the power of the AMD with the new consoles coming out bases on this arctecture it will be interesting to see if the game gap shrinks.Yes hopefully we'll see more games like BF3 that use all cores...
And I could go on about how my i7 rapes his i5 at everything else
Haha well said....
I need help, cause i'm starting to freak out.
It seems like i can't set the turbo multiplier more than 42. I mean, i can in the bios, but
when i go to the desktop and check cpu-z, it always says 4200.00 Mhz, even if i set it to 44 or 45.
What the hell is happening? I tried everything, am i missing something?
If it's anything like AMD CPU's Turbo it doesn't work once you start overclocking.
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 08:06 PM
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 08:21 PM
1230v2 Xeon (no igpu at all) is almost identical with i7-3770 , with i5 3570k price. Some mobos allow "overclocking" by changing the multiplier to 37 and no need for 140 euro mobo + 60 euro OC cooler. B75 mobo and some cheap aftermarket cooler for less noise will do just fine!
Thx for info... I knew there must be Xeon like that one.
But it doesn't look so hot according to hwbot.
You win some (hyperthreading), you lose some(MHz)
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1230_v2/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i5_3570k/
1230v2 Xeon (no igpu at all) is almost identical with i7-3770 , with i5 3570k price. Some mobos allow "overclocking" by changing the multiplier to 37 and no need for 140 euro mobo + 60 euro OC cooler. B75 mobo and some cheap aftermarket cooler for less noise will do just fine!
Thx for info... I knew there must be Xeon like that one.
But it doesn't look so hot according to hwbot.
You win some (hyperthreading), you lose some(MHz)
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1230_v2/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i5_3570k/
alanm
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Posted on: 02/08/2013 09:01 PM
Quite happy with mine. Does 4.5 @ 1.32v but leave it at 4.2 stock volts. Never intended to get the 3570k, was waiting for Haswell, but last board (P55 Gigabyte) developed sata controller issues, so this was more a replacement of old board/CPU. Not sure I'll go for Haswell now, as I dont think it will do much better on the IPC front. Intel seems more focused on TDP and IGP improvements and of course multi-threaded performance. So gaming-wise I dont think Haswell will do much vs IB.
Quite happy with mine. Does 4.5 @ 1.32v but leave it at 4.2 stock volts. Never intended to get the 3570k, was waiting for Haswell, but last board (P55 Gigabyte) developed sata controller issues, so this was more a replacement of old board/CPU. Not sure I'll go for Haswell now, as I dont think it will do much better on the IPC front. Intel seems more focused on TDP and IGP improvements and of course multi-threaded performance. So gaming-wise I dont think Haswell will do much vs IB.
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Best CPU out there. However, seeing that 78c Package temp at 4.7 is the reason why mine sits at around High 50's/Low 60's at 4.4.